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  11-Mar-13, 22:06   #1
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
Hi all,

As some of you may be aware I am back into poker after a long break and looking to build a bankroll from scratch. My aim is to make $1k by year end, then split it and have 50% as a BR and 50% towards a nice Christmas for my new little one (as a MTT player, that could be a single win or several small ones, either way I am in for the grind and would expect to have built it to only $200 after 4 months, to enable me to play bigger/more games).

I am playing solely on sites I have joined through BankrollMob as I guess they get a CPA or rakeback for anything I play and it seems only fair seeing as I am getting free money from them to play.

I have been looking at the mobpoints now and that seems a pretty good deal, infact awesome.

What is the best way of maximising points?
I see people using lots of points on the safe, surely it is better to keep points and save for 5000 taht risk them in the safe/draws?
I have only gained 170 points for forum posts, but have only made good quality posts, no spam. Is there something I should be aiming for in order to get the max 50 points per day.
Any other hints or tricks?

Thanks

Edited by IceQueenAce (Monday, March 11, 2013 @ 22:07 GMT)


     
  11-Mar-13, 22:18   #2
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5681
"...My aim is to make $1k by year end, then..."

I admire your optimistic outlook,....but do you think it's really a good idea to make plans in the face of pure chance........?

If I knew what this 'Affiliate' thing is,....I'd suggest that,....but I have NO clue as to what that is.... Confused

     
  11-Mar-13, 22:20   #3
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
Pure chance?

I don't believe in chance or luck when it comes to poker

     
  11-Mar-13, 22:41   #4
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rafiko1 

Joined: May '12
Location: Belgium
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 275
It's funny two people with a whole other mind.
The one believe there is no luck at all while the other thinks luck is part of everything.
I think it's somewhere in the middle and more tended to believe in the "luck is everywhere and everything" statement.
There is no such thing as destiny for me.
Things happen. Sometimes without a reason. And factors like luck and probability play here a main role.
There are times where you can intervene and change your luck/probability but you can never have a total control on it.

I hope you succeed with your goal you set yourself. Though it is difficult to estimate how much income u can get out of poker (-> luck).

BTW an affiliate is about bringing other people to join bankrollmob and you receive mobpoints for it if they get accepted for a bonus. Each mobster has his own unique link so that those people are assigned to you as the affiliate.


     
  12-Mar-13, 05:47   #5
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
Yes I guess that is the beauty of poker, everyone sees things differently.

It is my belief that nearly every time someone talks about luck, they are actually talking about variance. And as variance is based on odds and percentages, that removes the luck element.

I will concede that luck COULD be about WHEN VARIANCE OCCURS but no-one ever moans about that when they get sucked out on.

Might make a thread about it tonight when I get home from work and nipper is put to bed

     
  12-Mar-13, 07:00   #6
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Regarding mob points, playing the safe when it is <$50 is -EV, playing it @ $50 is EV neutral and playing it when it is > $50 is +EV. So if you ever see the safe go up over $50, spend all you can trying to crack it, as there is a positive expectation in doing so. That said, it rarely happens these days, used to happen relatively often, but almost never now, because of all the free safe shots from the calendar.

Mob Draw is obviously EV neutral, so it doesn't really matter if you play it or not.

     
  12-Mar-13, 07:10   #7
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helenevelin 

Joined: Jun '09
Location: Romania
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 44
Jess, you see things quite as they are. Talking about numbers, i guess if we take randomly 10.000 online players we get -EV... Smile I play for some years now and i keep in touch wih a lot of players, there is no one who beat variance at a long term...

     
  12-Mar-13, 07:34   #8
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8633
i think if u want to maximize your return through mobpoints, the best path you can take is: accumulate mobpoints (by posting, winning on the calendar & through affiliates)>>>>save them until cashout + take free shot daily on the mobsafe + take free chances to win something on calendar. thats my personal opinion.

     
  12-Mar-13, 11:56   #9
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rafiko1 

Joined: May '12
Location: Belgium
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 275
And what determines poker variance?
Well, luck...

     
  12-Mar-13, 12:35   #10
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
the odds determine variance, eg how often your aces get cracked

thats not luck

     
  12-Mar-13, 17:35   #11
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
You should definately take a look on the affiliate section of your mob account, that it's probably the fastest way to earn mob points!

Next there are the mob games, but of course their are luck games so you should expect some variance.

     
  12-Mar-13, 17:58   #12
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pinku135 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: India
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 335
Good day Smile
The best and the fastest way to earn the mob points is surely the affiliation ... there are some other ways to earn the mob points too .. the best in them is posting in the forum !! which indeed is very good way with a lot of interactions and abundance of knowledge from the fellow mobsters .. lastly you have the mob safe, calender and the mob draw .. which are hard to crack !! you need to lucky for them !!
Hope this helped out !!
Good luck at the tables Thumbs Up

     
  12-Mar-13, 18:24   #13
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Mysik86 

Joined: Nov '11
Location: Poland
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 773
Posted by pochui:
i think if u want to maximize your return through mobpoints, the best path you can take is: accumulate mobpoints (by posting, winning on the calendar & through affiliates)>>>>save them until cashout + take free shot daily on the mobsafe + take free chances to win something on calendar. thats my personal opinion.

I agree... this is how I cashout my $50. Writing posts (but quality posts - not posts only for points!), earning mobpoints from calendar and try to hit the safe Smile

Posted by IceQueenAce:
the odds determine variance, eg how often your aces get cracked
thats not luck

Yeah... and I tell you guys, that on my lasts AA preflop, I win only about ~60% hands Sad
And with AK, I win only 20-30%...

Edited by Mysik86 (Tuesday, March 12, 2013 @ 18:28 GMT)


     
  13-Mar-13, 17:47   #14
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
How many hands are you looking at for that 60%?
Considering AA to win are approx 80%, and v three hands 65%ish, thats not far off.


AK is at its best 65% and that is V 72o. At its worst v AA only 7% and against low pockets 44%, suited connectors 60% so again,not far off expectations.

Combined that yuo are likely to win a small pot or lose a big one, I am not sure what you are expecting.

     
  13-Mar-13, 19:12   #15
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Notexactly 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: Slovenia
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 52
Make 5 posts every day - 182,5$ at the end of the year

Invite your friends to register under your link - (guess everyone has more then 5 friends) min. 50$ at the end of the year

Your friends requesting poker bonuses from brm - probably 10$ minimum at the end of the year

Playing poker online, registering to leaderboards,... - min 500$ per year(responsible gambling Smile)

+other ways to get points

Looks like 1000$ per year at the end isn't that much Smile

     
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