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  17-Mar-13, 21:03   #1
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uhhcallmi 

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PokerStarshand #95712893024: Toernooi #705317496, $0.50+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Wedstrijdronde I, Level III (25/50) - 17/03/2013 21:59:04 CET [17/03/2013 16:59:04 ET]
Tafel '705317496 5' 6-max Plaats #2 is de button
Plaats 2: cardraiser72 (1016 in chips)
Plaats 3: adytu25 (2785 in chips)
Plaats 4: satberna (875 in chips)
Plaats 5: Chen4rd (1324 in chips)
adytu25: zet small blind 25
satberna: zet big blind 50
*** GESLOTEN KAARTEN ***
Gedeeld aan cardraiser72 [As Ac]
Chen4rd: foldt
cardraiser72: callt 50
adytu25: raiset 150 naar 200
satberna: foldt
cardraiser72: raiset 566 naar 766
adytu25: callt 566
*** FLOP *** [7s Jc Ad]
adytu25: checkt
cardraiser72: bet 187
adytu25: raiset 187 naar 374
cardraiser72: callt 63 en is all-in
De niet-gecallde bet (124) is geretourneerd aan adytu25
*** TURN *** [7s Jc Ad] Queen of clubs
*** RIVER *** [7s Jc Ad Qc] Jack of diamonds
*** SHOWDOWN ***
adytu25: toont [Js Jh] (four of a kind, Boeren)
cardraiser72: toont [As Ac] (een full house, Azen over Boeren)
adytu25 won 2082 van pot
cardraiser72 is op de 20e plaats in het toernooi geëindigd
*** SAMENVATTING ***
Totale pot 2082 | Rake 0
Board [7s Jc Ad Qc Jd]
Plaats 2: cardraiser72 (button) toonde [As Ac] en verloor met een full house, Azen over Boeren
Plaats 3: adytu25 (small blind) toonde [Js Jh] en won (2082) met four of a kind, Boeren
Plaats 4: satberna (big blind) foldde voor de Flop
Plaats 5: Chen4rd foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)

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  17-Mar-13, 21:37   #2
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RoninHarper 

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G'day Amigo

I was wondering but you do seem to make allot of these bad beat postings.
I was wondering why you seem to think you have so many of them.
I would point out that not all bad beats are bad play on behalf of your opponent.
Sometime you walk into a well played trap.
I know I love to trap players and take as much cash from them as I can.

Best of luck too you in the future.
Be cool

Ronin Cool

     
  17-Mar-13, 22:00   #3
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rbdflyboy 

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don't quite see this as a trap by the opponent....looks more like a river bad beat. uhhcallmi was ahead on the flop...looks more like his trap went bad...then again being AI pre, there really isn't anyone trapping here...it's a flip and turned out as an ouch. Shock

     
  17-Mar-13, 22:11   #4
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demodawggy 

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Yes,....no matter HOW you look at it,....DEFINATELY a BIG OUCH!!! Stuff like THAT just KILLS the game in you...

It took me a bit to decipher all that,....I don't speak Chinese too well... Big Smile

The hat on that dog has been looking a little familiar to me, but I just couldn't put my finger on it until NOW..... That's that hat the Pope wears with his red Gucci shoes!!! Did your dog snatch the Pope's hat....? lol...

     
  17-Mar-13, 22:30   #5
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uhhcallmi 

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i deliver bad beats also ,,i just loved this hand..so win some or lose some ..


but due to this was a one outer.. i thought i post it...


     
  18-Mar-13, 15:40   #6
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thefly131 
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Posted by uhhcallmi:
PokerStarshand #95712893024: Toernooi #705317496, $0.50+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Wedstrijdronde I, Level III (25/50) - 17/03/2013 21:59:04 CET [17/03/2013 16:59:04 ET]
Tafel '705317496 5' 6-max Plaats #2 is de button
Plaats 2: cardraiser72 (1016 in chips)
Plaats 3: adytu25 (2785 in chips)
Plaats 4: satberna (875 in chips)
Plaats 5: Chen4rd (1324 in chips)
adytu25: zet small blind 25
satberna: zet big blind 50
*** GESLOTEN KAARTEN ***
Gedeeld aan cardraiser72 [As Ac]
Chen4rd: foldt
cardraiser72: callt 50
adytu25: raiset 150 naar 200
satberna: foldt
cardraiser72: raiset 566 naar 766
adytu25: callt 566
*** FLOP *** [7s Jc Ad]
adytu25: checkt
cardraiser72: bet 187
adytu25: raiset 187 naar 374
cardraiser72: callt 63 en is all-in
De niet-gecallde bet (124) is geretourneerd aan adytu25
*** TURN *** [7s Jc Ad] Queen of clubs
*** RIVER *** [7s Jc Ad Qc] Jack of diamonds
*** SHOWDOWN ***
adytu25: toont [Js Jh] (four of a kind, Boeren)
cardraiser72: toont [As Ac] (een full house, Azen over Boeren)
adytu25 won 2082 van pot
cardraiser72 is op de 20e plaats in het toernooi ge�digd
*** SAMENVATTING ***
Totale pot 2082 | Rake 0
Board [7s Jc Ad Qc Jd]
Plaats 2: cardraiser72 (button) toonde [As Ac] en verloor met een full house, Azen over Boeren
Plaats 3: adytu25 (small blind) toonde [Js Jh] en won (2082) met four of a kind, Boeren
Plaats 4: satberna (big blind) foldde voor de Flop
Plaats 5: Chen4rd foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)

Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!
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Indead a bad beat on the river but some remarks

proflop action :

just calling with aces --> very bad action (always raise with aces)

reraise --> better went allin (187 chips leftover means nothing)


For your opponent : I would also call postflop, postturn with a set of Jacks

and he gets a lucky river, bad luck for you




     
  18-Mar-13, 16:13   #7
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uhhcallmi 

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you mught think it's not best played ..but considering my stack ..all and everything i want in this hand is...to get all the money in and i want a custumor...so i can double up.. or in worst case get beaten..

I'm not afraid to suffer bad beats...as you might have heard this line before ...

when you are strong, look weak..when you are weak ,look strong and take the pot if possible..

there are situations i limp with aces ..this was such an example..

i just hope you understand my motives to play this particulair hand in this way..at least you might understand the thinkingprocces behing my play..

thnks for the feedback...anyways Smile

another reason to just call was ..according to info i had on players at this table and dynamics i knew almost for certain i would get a raise if i just call so i could reraise the villian...but also had the feeling that all would fold if i betted any amount over 50 chips...exept the guy with J-J ,,but i can't know that he holds such good hand pre-flop..

I'm happy how i played this hand ,,exept the result was not satisfying ..next hand next tourney..

also i don't blame the villian, he just did what he had to do...play his jacks..and win more chips.. Thumbs Up

Edited by uhhcallmi (Monday, March 18, 2013 @ 16:24 GMT)


     
  18-Mar-13, 16:26   #8
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demodawggy 

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I ALWAYS limp with aces,.... in the 'long run' you make a heckuva lot more profit...

...usually don't let things carry on past the flop though before I shove,... but sometimes I'll play it out...

...playing them out successfully maximizes the 'extraction'.....

     
  18-Mar-13, 21:58   #9
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uhhcallmi 

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HERE's another one ..this one hurted my badly.. Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

PokerStarshand #95769497968: Toernooi #704158720, $1.00+$0.25+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1250/2500) - 18/03/2013 22:54:52 CET [18/03/2013 17:54:52 ET]
Tafel '704158720 48' 9-max Plaats #2 is de button
Plaats 1: glenmatthews (50582 in chips)
Plaats 2: El_Ninno98 (37265 in chips)
Plaats 3: Crispy Herb (52972 in chips)
Plaats 4: gribelson (16185 in chips)
Plaats 5: Chanoldo (38279 in chips)
Plaats 6: wvdvjij (32210 in chips)
Plaats 7: jorgenuno4 (23155 in chips)
Plaats 8: 2S1ckMan! (11986 in chips)
Plaats 9: cardraiser72 (13546 in chips)
glenmatthews: zet de ante 250
El_Ninno98: zet de ante 250
Crispy Herb: zet de ante 250
gribelson: zet de ante 250
Chanoldo: zet de ante 250
wvdvjij: zet de ante 250
jorgenuno4: zet de ante 250
2S1ckMan!: zet de ante 250
cardraiser72: zet de ante 250
Crispy Herb: zet small blind 1250
gribelson: zet big blind 2500
*** GESLOTEN KAARTEN ***
Gedeeld aan cardraiser72 [As Ah]
Chanoldo: foldt
wvdvjij: foldt
jorgenuno4: foldt
2S1ckMan!: raiset 9236 naar 11736 en is all-in
cardraiser72: raiset 1560 naar 13296 en is all-in
glenmatthews: foldt
El_Ninno98: foldt
Crispy Herb: foldt
gribelson: foldt
De niet-gecallde bet (1560) is geretourneerd aan cardraiser72
*** FLOP *** [5d 4c Qc]
*** TURN *** [5d 4c Qc] King of spades
*** RIVER *** [5d 4c Qc Ks] 9 of hearts
*** SHOWDOWN ***
2S1ckMan!: toont [Jd Td] (een straight, Negen tot Koning)
cardraiser72: toont [As Ah] (een pair Azen)
2S1ckMan! won 29472 van pot
*** SAMENVATTING ***
Totale pot 29472 | Rake 0
Board [5d 4c Qc Ks 9h]
Plaats 1: glenmatthews foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 2: El_Ninno98 (button) foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 3: Crispy Herb (small blind) foldde voor de Flop
Plaats 4: gribelson (big blind) foldde voor de Flop
Plaats 5: Chanoldo foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 6: wvdvjij foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 7: jorgenuno4 foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 8: 2S1ckMan! toonde [Jd Td] en won (29472) met een straight, Negen tot Koning
Plaats 9: cardraiser72 toonde [As Ah] en verloor met een pair Azen

     
  18-Mar-13, 22:29   #10
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RoninHarper 

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G'day mate

I must admit that your bad beat post can be very entertaining. Smile
I understand why you try to maximize you profit with Aces.
I no longer slow play Aces very much as they get cracked way too often online when I do.
Well best wishes too you and try to avoid the idiots.

Be cool

Ronin Cool

     
  19-Mar-13, 01:25   #11
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uhhcallmi 

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And another painfull one...


PokerStarshand #95778911134: Toernooi #705902697, $0.91+$0.09 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 19/03/2013 2:22:35 CET [18/03/2013 21:22:35 ET]
Tafel '705902697 5' 9-max Plaats #2 is de button
Plaats 1: Tigrashka (16345 in chips)
Plaats 2: fred_vasco (6170 in chips)
Plaats 4: eLiCiToOp! (17941 in chips)
Plaats 6: Leinad.pt (62 in chips) zit uit
Plaats 7: cardraiser72 (12584 in chips)
Plaats 9: LUIS 381 EAB (14398 in chips)
Tigrashka: zet de ante 50
fred_vasco: zet de ante 50
eLiCiToOp!: zet de ante 50
Leinad.pt: zet de ante 50
cardraiser72: zet de ante 50
LUIS 381 EAB: zet de ante 50
eLiCiToOp!: zet small blind 300
Leinad.pt: zet big blind 12 en is all-in
*** GESLOTEN KAARTEN ***
Gedeeld aan cardraiser72 [Ah 7c]
cardraiser72: callt 600
LUIS 381 EAB: foldt
Tigrashka: foldt
fred_vasco: foldt
eLiCiToOp!: callt 300
Leinad.pt: foldt
*** FLOP *** [8h 4h 3h]
eLiCiToOp!: bet 600
cardraiser72: callt 600
*** TURN *** [8h 4h 3h] 2 of hearts
eLiCiToOp!: bet 600
cardraiser72: callt 600
*** RIVER *** [8h 4h 3h 2h] 5 of hearts
eLiCiToOp!: bet 16091 en is all-in
cardraiser72: callt 10734 en is all-in
De niet-gecallde bet (5357) is geretourneerd aan eLiCiToOp!
*** SHOWDOWN ***
eLiCiToOp!: toont [Th 6h] (een straight flush, Twee tot Zes)
cardraiser72: toont [Ah 7c] (een straight flush, Aas tot Vijf)
eLiCiToOp! won 25044 van bij pot
eLiCiToOp! won 336 van hoofd pot
cardraiser72 is op de 5e plaats in het toernooi geëindigd en heeft $3.68 ontvangen.
Leinad.pt is op de 6e plaats in het toernooi geëindigd en heeft $2.45 ontvangen.
*** SAMENVATTING ***
Totale pot 25380 Hoofd pot 336. Bij pot 25044. | Rake 0
Board [8h 4h 3h 2h 5h]
Plaats 1: Tigrashka foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 2: fred_vasco (button) foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 4: eLiCiToOp! (small blind) toonde [Th 6h] en won (25380) met een straight flush, Twee tot Zes
Plaats 6: Leinad.pt (big blind) foldde voor de Flop
Plaats 7: cardraiser72 toonde [Ah 7c] en verloor met een straight flush, Aas tot Vijf
Plaats 9: LUIS 381 EAB foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)


OMF pokergod...screw you pokergod

     
  19-Mar-13, 09:20   #12
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Mysik86 

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Posted by thefly131:
proflop action :

just calling with aces --> very bad action (always raise with aces)
reraise --> better went allin (187 chips leftover means nothing)


Exactly... you had pocket Aces - the best hand in poker preflop... so why you didn't go all-in ???

     
  19-Mar-13, 11:55   #13
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arrow-knee- 

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Posted by Mysik86:
Posted by thefly131:
proflop action :

just calling with aces --> very bad action (always raise with aces)
reraise --> better went allin (187 chips leftover means nothing)


Exactly... you had pocket Aces - the best hand in poker preflop... so why you didn't go all-in ???



beause online you will lose almost 5 out of 10 pocket acces .....

and by not going all in straight away it saves you money
ofcours an all in wil scare more players and maybe lets someone fold who wouldve won Big Smile

     
  19-Mar-13, 12:31   #14
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uhhcallmi 

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i did place these hands because i just wanted to show ,,what can occure when your playing online all day..not to get advize by how i should play the hand..as you can see it's 3 hands and lost 2 of them with a 1 outer...1out of 52...in my rush i forgot to translate these hands on translator first so i'm sorry for that...might be little diff. to nderstand all..but if you look at the hands dealth and the outcome you can figure it out...

on the other hand i won more hands with my monsterhands but these are just my extreme suck-outs..

the hand where i did limp with ACES was a satelite tourney and if i could double up in that spot..i would win my ticket almost for sure ..that's the reason i did that ..and most of the online players would chose a different line ..but as Daniel neagranu once said: ''i like to do things different,then the mayority handles with some spots''..

THE last post will be the last hand i post in this thread..cause i don't want to get people tired with my..suck outs..

unless i lose with an even worse beat ..(straight flush to a royal flush) Big Smile Big Smile

     
  19-Mar-13, 13:12   #15
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Mysik86 

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Posted by arrow-knee-:
and by not going all in straight away it saves you money
ofcours an all in wil scare more players and maybe lets someone fold who wouldve won Big Smile


And this is the point - if you go all-in, you will scare weak players with hands like KJ, QK or something... But if you only raise it a bit, there are call their hands in 80%... and they may win on flop...

So better all-in and lose than call, re-raise and lose...

     
  19-Mar-13, 14:51   #16
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Fakiry 

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Killing me softly with this river… that would become great on a song! And you happened to leave this SnG in 4th and didn’t got any prize, probably with the best hand you had during the entire game… so sad. Your raise is discussable, taking in consideration the number of chips you left behind, but lets not deviate from the main subject, the cards would have been the same and your opponent would never leave that fight either before or after the flop.

     
  19-Mar-13, 19:27   #17
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thefly131 
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Posted by arrow-knee-:
Posted by Mysik86:
Posted by thefly131:
proflop action :

just calling with aces --> very bad action (always raise with aces)
reraise --> better went allin (187 chips leftover means nothing)


Exactly... you had pocket Aces - the best hand in poker preflop... so why you didn't go all-in ???



beause online you will lose almost 5 out of 10 pocket acces .....

and by not going all in straight away it saves you money
ofcours an all in wil scare more players and maybe lets someone fold who wouldve won Big Smile



I play pocket AA/KK/QQ like this ....

no action in front --> 3 BB raise (which is my std raise)

if I get called --> see what flop brings ...

If I get reraised --> reraise and if needed allin



If somebody raised before me, I 3-bet

Because you have a very strong hand and do not want multiple players involved.

If you slowplay (call) preflop, BB oplays for free and SB almost for free, also othe players could call...

The more of them the more chance they ll hit 2 pair, set, str or flush

That s not what you want....


With pocket AA , and a flop of 6 Heart 8 Heart 6 Club

what can you do --> str draws, fl draw, FH possible.....

The only thing you can do is raise and fold when you are reraised. Folding aces is difficult for a lot of players, but postflop you should consider it when you face high raises/reraises

     
  19-Mar-13, 21:32   #18
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nipitiri3 
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well yesterday at 100k privilege freeroll had KK flopped K opponent beated me at river and exactly same thing happened today both times opponents had crap and very little chance to win before river not extremly bad but still suck

first time were most fun me KK other opponent 55 and winner K9 diamonds flop came 5K10 only 10 of diamonds ....... we all went all in and 2x more diamonds came biggest donk won as usually Thumbs Up
we all had decent stacks and was already cash places

it all would be fine but same thing twice in 48h lol

     
  19-Mar-13, 23:54   #19
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Weenie 
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haha that straightflush loss was pretty bad (funny too) Big Smile I can feel your pain Smile But this kind of threads helps me to realize that I am not only one who is losing like this.. But seriously why you cant see so many suckouts like this LIVE? Thats the question...

but here is one from my hometown casino (I wasnt there Big Smile) AA vs AA vs KK and KK won Smile

     
  20-Mar-13, 00:06   #20
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RoninHarper 

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G'day weenie

What I want to know is how is it you was allowed to get casino footage from your hometown casino.
Was this an actual televised game or do you know someone in security. Smile

best of luck too you.

Ronin Cool

     
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