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  25-Mar-13, 18:14   #1
what a donk 0 
manuste6 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 75
i cant beleive this donk called my allin shove with a 2 4 offsuit at that stage of the tournament before the flop we were down to 25 players from a field of 3833 i had Ak off this donk tryed 2 steel
the blinds so i went allin the donk calls i show Ak expecting him 2 have a half desent hand and he shows 24 off and hits a fullhouse on me hes name is kk1979








iTranscript for your last 1 hands requested by steh222

*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Hand #96044181273: Tournament #704160329, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIII (8000/16000) - 2013/03/23 22:25:21 ET
Table '704160329 5' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: steh222 (275372 in chips)
Seat 2: gonnabeapro (423894 in chips)
Seat 3: parausanu (395232 in chips)
Seat 4: stich18 (192744 in chips)
Seat 5: Envari (979184 in chips)
Seat 6: Xerez1984 (266838 in chips)
Seat 7: 15watt (937183 in chips)
Seat 8: ramitk (541306 in chips)
Seat 9: kk1972 (732333 in chips)
steh222: posts the ante 2000
gonnabeapro: posts the ante 2000
parausanu: posts the ante 2000
stich18: posts the ante 2000
Envari: posts the ante 2000
Xerez1984: posts the ante 2000
15watt: posts the ante 2000
ramitk: posts the ante 2000
kk1972: posts the ante 2000
gonnabeapro: posts small blind 8000
parausanu: posts big blind 16000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to steh222 [Ad Kh]
stich18: folds
Envari: folds
Xerez1984: folds
15watt: folds
ramitk: folds
kk1972: raises 32000 to 48000
steh222: raises 225372 to 273372 and is all-in
gonnabeapro: folds
parausanu: folds
kk1972: calls 225372
*** FLOP *** [3c Ts 4c]
*** TURN *** [3c Ts 4c] 4 of spades
*** RIVER *** [3c Ts 4c 4s] 2 of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kk1972: shows [4h 2d] (a full house, Fours full of Deuces)
steh222: shows [Ad Kh] (a pair of Fours)
kk1972 collected 588744 from pot
steh222 finished the tournament in 25th place and received $19.54.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 588744 | Rake 0
Board [3c Ts 4c 4s 2c]
Seat 1: steh222 (button) showed [Ad Kh] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 2: gonnabeapro (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: parausanu (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: stich18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Envari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Xerez1984 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: 15watt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ramitk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: kk1972 showed [4h 2d] and won (588744) with a full house, Fours full of Deuces

Edited by Administrator (Tuesday, March 26, 2013 @ 09:13 GMT)


     
  25-Mar-13, 18:18   #2
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QueenMatilda 
Joined: Mar '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 13
no fear of loss.

     
  25-Mar-13, 18:49   #3
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 57 (M)
Posts: 5831
I feel fo you my friend....!!!

SAME thing almost,... happened to me on th FIRST hand in a $1.10 buy in tourney this morning on PS.

I had AK off,...K and some junk comes on the flop,....only me and 1 other in the hand.

I shove,...he calls with 2 4 suited,...... I have 2 pair,....BAM!!! He gets a flush...... I'm OUT!!!

Dumb-ass Russian donk... Angry

     
  25-Mar-13, 19:10   #4
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 1885
Posted by demodawggy:
I feel fo you my friend....!!!

SAME thing almost,... happened to me on th FIRST hand in a $1.10 buy in tourney this morning on PS.

I had AK off,...K and some junk comes on the flop,....only me and 1 other in the hand.

I shove,...he calls with 2 4 suited,...... I have 2 pair,....BAM!!! He gets a flush...... I'm OUT!!!

Dumb-ass Russian donk... Angry


That is in no way the "SAME thing almost". The op is describing a hand late in the tournament at a point where you would not expect donks to still be around, you do not expect those donk calls in the bottom 1%. The first hand in any low buy-in mtt you should be prepared for donks to get lucky. Plus it's not all in preflop and it's even possible that a flush draw wasn't so far behind. Just cos it's the same two hands does not make it the same. Not even close.

Having said that, there could be a number of reasons for the odd donk call in the first post. Boredom I would guess. A long tournament, probably with not very big prizes even though it's already itm, players tend to tighten up and it gets frustrating for the aggressive donks. A big stack might want to start riding his luck and push two live cards. That's not to say it was a justified call in any shape or form. It could even be a misclick.

     
  25-Mar-13, 19:38   #5
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 6668
Just wow, and this was a paid tournament not a freeroll Shock Shock

It seems that for some no matter the limit is they simply play like donks and get away with it.

     
  25-Mar-13, 20:03   #6
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lukasb 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Croatia
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1737
To make it worse i went and checked him on sharkskope. He finished 6th for a profit of $247 Shock

     
  25-Mar-13, 20:26   #7
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 41 (F)
Posts: 2233
TBH it could have easily been a misclick, I have done it on occasions. Would be the most likely reason in that situation

     
  25-Mar-13, 20:51   #8
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manuste6 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 75
i asked him how could he make that call and he seid i had a feeling and then i seid to him thares no way you will win this tourny he was in 2 after knocking me out

     
  25-Mar-13, 20:53   #9
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 5239
My friends....... thats Poker! Your hand was only a winning hand until the flop, then it was beaten. This is the problem of shoving all in after someone already has; which most players dont seem to appreciate. There are no guarantees that your measly 2to1 favourite hand was going to hold out... indeed, it is arguably a bad call on your behalf to risk your tourney all in at this stage without a huge pair...which would still have lost, but would have been a more acceptable shout!

     
  25-Mar-13, 22:58   #10
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 3361
Here lately I feel there's so much donk crap going on at Carbon Poker I'm just about ready to give poker a break. I mean anything for a buyin at $3.30 or less it's constantly players calling allin with nothing. And, any Ace flies to be the best hand it most players eyes at Carbon.

I've had the poop kicked out of me for the last 10 sessions and always losing to some 7,4 of spades or an A,4 or 6. It's rediculous at this point. I enjoyed a $5.50 game the other day. Although I didn't place I beat myself playing an A,10. Out of nearly 1000 players I made it within 10 of payout and some donk with over 100K in chips calls with K,9 and hits flush.

     
  26-Mar-13, 01:24   #11
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RoninHarper 

Joined: Nov '12
Location: Canada
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 4485
G'day mate

Well the idiot did not care about the idea of losing at all.
Might have been a idiot cheat playing multiple accounts.
Sorry you got raped by a moronic donk mate but it happens to us all every damn day.

better luck next time.

Ronin Cool

     
  26-Mar-13, 03:34   #12
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 57 (M)
Posts: 5831
Yeah,...I guess my comparison WAS a little off,...hehe

I guess what I was meaning to say,....strong pocket, decent flop,....carefree idiot playing to win with JUNK...

...and the same resulting frustration with an IDIOT...

...."RAPED".....??? Really,....feels like it sometimes I guess,....but I've never been used as 'currency' in jail before.... lol...

     
  26-Mar-13, 09:43   #13
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thefly131 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 1359
Posted by awood88:
Posted by demodawggy:
I feel fo you my friend....!!!

SAME thing almost,... happened to me on th FIRST hand in a $1.10 buy in tourney this morning on PS.

I had AK off,...K and some junk comes on the flop,....only me and 1 other in the hand.

I shove,...he calls with 2 4 suited,...... I have 2 pair,....BAM!!! He gets a flush...... I'm OUT!!!

Dumb-ass Russian donk... Angry


That is in no way the "SAME thing almost". The op is describing a hand late in the tournament at a point where you would not expect donks to still be around, you do not expect those donk calls in the bottom 1%. The first hand in any low buy-in mtt you should be prepared for donks to get lucky. Plus it's not all in preflop and it's even possible that a flush draw wasn't so far behind. Just cos it's the same two hands does not make it the same. Not even close.

Having said that, there could be a number of reasons for the odd donk call in the first post. Boredom I would guess. A long tournament, probably with not very big prizes even though it's already itm, players tend to tighten up and it gets frustrating for the aggressive donks. A big stack might want to start riding his luck and push two live cards. That's not to say it was a justified call in any shape or form. It could even be a misclick.



Agree with awood here

Still strange call here in such a late stage at a MTT. even if he was lowstack and his steal was caught and he had not much chips left it would be unusual play.

So in my opinions it s a misclick or he was tired and gambled (all or nothing)

     
  26-Mar-13, 10:40   #14
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3pokeronly 

Joined: Jul '12
Location: New Zealand
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 250
Hi Guys, To earn my 10 mob points I will try to address this, some people get to a point and lose all patience, for some it is one or two hands into a tournament for others as soon as they get tired, for others as soon as they are less than average stack they feel that pressure, these people are not good poker players, unfortunately their donkey styles affect good players playing the right cards, I kind of agree with some of the previous posts, if the guy was busy donking and getting lucky do not push back until you have 90% of the hand, IE see the flop as cheap as possible then decide on the next action, including folding close to the nuts, sucks I know, but to increase those % in the right situations especially near the sharp end requires, at some stages, becoming ultra tight when and if you have a couple of donkey ballers at the table. Some, as soon as they reach a level of $$ return or they have met their target $$ go nuts, they may then calm back down, not always tho, it seems you met one of those awful gonads at the wrong time, happens to us all at one time or another, best to make a note on him for the next time you meet him and then blow him off the table when you have the nuts and tell him he was a fool before and that he still is a fool, satisfaction and justice served up on a plate, may never happen but hey may happen too.

Finally (after the longest ever paragraph, lol), Do not let it affect your overall game.

GL on the felt, see you all in The Rigged Place home game.

3P

     
  26-Mar-13, 18:16   #15
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 11206
With so many poker players there is no doubt that you will bump on
someone playing like this.
And the funny thing is his finishing position in the specific tournament
according to lucasb

     
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