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  15-Apr-13, 04:30   #1
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takingdrugs 

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http://www.cigital.com/papers/download/developer_gambli...

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i felt pretty certain i ws spelling it wrong

Edited by takingdrugs (Monday, April 15, 2013 @ 04:46 GMT)


     
  15-Apr-13, 05:24   #2
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Thanks man!


You know what's funny? Now that I read it, I remember that I've read it before, can't believe I forgot about that! Although, it was years ago I first read it!

And wow, I'm actually into programming myself and know a bit about these kinds of algorithms, that is a really awful pseudo-RNG; particularly weak and flawed. I'm surprised the site felt confident enough in it to release the source-code haha!


Mind you, there is no way a site like Stars or any other huge site these days would be using an algorithm this weak. Although, I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if some of the smaller sites used flawed algorithms.

That said - processing power, security ideology and technology in general has come a long way since the 90s! I'm sure even a poorly coded algorithm from post 2010 would be better than this one from the 90s.

Edited by jessthehuman (Monday, April 15, 2013 @ 05:32 GMT)


     
  15-Apr-13, 05:25   #3
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Hey, well what I gather is that a 32-bit seed space is not sufficient to resist a determined brute-force attack, but On the other hand, a 64-bit seed should be resistant to almost any brute force attack. I see the RNG has been through the trial and error faze , and am glad it is a trustworthy Randomly generated system now,

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so it was Rigged once Lmao

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just glad it was corrected quickly Blink

     
  15-Apr-13, 05:33   #4
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Posted by saynothing:

so it was Rigged once Lmao


I don't know if "rigged" is the correct word. Perhaps 'vulnerable' is better.

     
  15-Apr-13, 05:36   #5
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much better word, actually just thought id bring out the word rigged for all the rigtards potentially reading lol

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usually the ones that say poker is rigged are referring to the actual poker site itself, and the 32 bit-seed PRNG system was vulnerable to attacks by actual poker players/hackers trying manipulate the software for there own well being.

Edited by saynothing (Monday, April 15, 2013 @ 05:40 GMT)


     
  15-Apr-13, 05:59   #6
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Posted by saynothing:
usually the ones that say poker is rigged are referring to the actual poker site itself, and the 32 bit-seed PRNG system was vulnerable to attacks by actual poker players/hackers trying manipulate the software for there own well being.


Yes and the reality is, even if poker sites themselves are secure enough to not be vulnerable to attack, players are certainly vulnerable. You only have to read over the larger poker forums to see how many people have been victims of trojan attacks.

Basically - there are so many ways a computer expert can effectively take control of your PC, if you're a poker player and this ever happens, then all they need to do is sit your table while they have a trojan running and you're basically left playing vs a god.

     
  15-Apr-13, 06:04   #7
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hmmmmmm very interesting, never even gave it any thought about Trojan programs, I am shocked actually, really good stuff to know thanks Worship

     
  15-Apr-13, 06:08   #8
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I was reading a recently security article and I can't remember the exact statistic (%) or the source of the statistic, but the article alleged that almost all malicious software now contains some form of Trojan. Which sounds about right and is a pretty worrying thing.

     
  15-Apr-13, 06:15   #9
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im sure someones watching me right now, get that feeling every time my computer slows down lol
and ive got stuff like shairport and splashtop running, that stuff makes me paranoid when im stoned

     
  15-Apr-13, 06:20   #10
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Yeah very worrying, and for all the forum users here pay close attention to this, as your computer may be currently infected with this corrupt software, unaware and completely baffled , I personally have family members (kids) using my pc and laptop on occasions and I can only wonder what kind of sh it they get into sometimes, most defo going to consider such attacks on my computer in the future

     
  15-Apr-13, 06:39   #11
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jessthehuman 

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Yeah - I actually work for an Internet Service Provider (ISP) as technical support.. So I see this quite a bit.. The amount of people we have calling who've had the computers hijacked, their emails hacked and used as spam accounts, their credit cards compromised, etc... it's pretty crazy. That said - as you may guess, most of these people, victims, are not exactly tech-savy.

     
  15-Apr-13, 06:45   #12
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indeed with just one decent anti virus and to scan everything you download saves you a whole lot off crap Big Smile

     
  15-Apr-13, 06:51   #13
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takingdrugs 

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Posted by jessthehuman:
Yeah - I actually work for an Internet Service Provider (ISP) as technical support.. So I see this quite a bit.. The amount of people we have calling who've had the computers hijacked, their emails hacked and used as spam accounts, their credit cards compromised, etc... it's pretty crazy. That said - as you may guess, most of these people, victims, are not exactly tech-savy.


haha thats my brothers job, for tesco broadband, mainly dealing with complaints about speeds and or s**t service

     
  15-Apr-13, 06:53   #14
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jessthehuman 

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Yeah - I tell you what too, it's almost never the ISPs fault, 99.9% of the time it's a user/local issue Blink

     
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