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  4-Aug-13, 15:12   #1
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ELDONKOII 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 29
Well i have been playing these freerolls for 2 weeks now and im on the l;eaderboard with over 7 points but got stiffed from an ft by guess who well he was russian anyway lol!!! it just defys belief at the back end of a tourney to have seat 2 raise i reraise my kk lol bb shoves j5???? guess who flops set to my ai call of course the russian donk! is it some way of coun ting the hands or is it just sheer stupidity and if it is why an earth do they always hit their hand , whenever i try play like that my tourney is over but it always works for the russians Sad

     
  4-Aug-13, 15:16   #2
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EgonOlsen 
Joined: Jan '12
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 31
so is it !

     
  4-Aug-13, 20:47   #3
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
Not sure for how long do you play online poker but what you described happens on all poker sites on all types of games, not just freerolls...

Soon you'll also learn that you can't do anything about it unfortunately.

     
  4-Aug-13, 20:55   #4
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
Read my thread and you will know it happens more frequent than not. Just think that you put the right money in for your KK and on another day you would have won.

     
  4-Aug-13, 21:00   #5
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 3179
Posted by ELDONKOII:
Well i have been playing these freerolls for 2 weeks now and im on the l;eaderboard with over 7 points but got stiffed from an ft by guess who well he was russian anyway lol!!! it just defys belief at the back end of a tourney to have seat 2 raise i reraise my kk lol bb shoves j5???? guess who flops set to my ai call of course the russian donk! is it some way of coun ting the hands or is it just sheer stupidity and if it is why an earth do they always hit their hand , whenever i try play like that my tourney is over but it always works for the russians Sad



you just wait untill you sit at my table and see what i do Big Smile

no,seriously i know what you mean they always seem to hit no matter what they've got.

     
  4-Aug-13, 21:57   #6
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TigerAxL 

Joined: Feb '11
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 392
just play & see ,lot of bad bets on pokerstars and fulltilt & they r waiting for ya
Just play more aggresive/extra agresive on the flop when u see something nice & u ll be safe if not ...ul

     
  5-Aug-13, 05:49   #7
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thefly131 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 1345
Posted by ELDONKOII:
Well i have been playing these freerolls for 2 weeks now and im on the l;eaderboard with over 7 points but got stiffed from an ft by guess who well he was russian anyway lol!!! it just defys belief at the back end of a tourney to have seat 2 raise i reraise my kk lol bb shoves j5???? guess who flops set to my ai call of course the russian donk! is it some way of coun ting the hands or is it just sheer stupidity and if it is why an earth do they always hit their hand , whenever i try play like that my tourney is over but it always works for the russians Sad



General rule for russians in freerolls :


Well the thing is these russians are not used to play poker.... tey are used to play russian roulette....

and they stick to the rules.... calling the allin and cross your fingers... and hope that the bullet will hit you

     
  5-Aug-13, 13:44   #8
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10034
It is a freeroll after all. And with that prize money and places paid, dont expect a different play.
And if you play long enough you will see that its not only them who play the hands like that.

     
  5-Aug-13, 14:19   #9
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
Posted by Mober:...if you play long enough you will see that its not only them who play the hands like that....


She's right,...it's not ONLY russians,...it's romanians too... Big Smile<lol... and in general,...other Eastern Europeans also...

Actually dude,...the FT/BrM freerolls are pretty good games to play. Not too much idiot bingo play. There are a few idiots,...but nowhere anything near the amount in those idiot donkfests over on PokerStars...

I find them to be rather enjoyable games to play,...and a little profitable too... Smile Thumbs Up Dollar

     
  5-Aug-13, 14:23   #10
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rab145 
Joined: May '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 29
I have been playing Fulltilt and pstars over the last few days and have suffered bad beat after bad beat so i decided a change in tactics and played like i was at a roulette table.. anyway the point in the story is that once i started playing with anything i was hitting every hand beating AA with like 8,2 and more than often hitting straights and flushes to beat big pairs. I dont normally play like this but after seeing hand after hand sinking my much better hand i had to give it a shot. i was hitting with hands that had less than 5% chance of winning so to sum up i am convinced that online poker is infact a fix and its made to make the game exciting rather than realistic and i say this after winning not losing. I have now come to a decision and all my poker from now on will be played with live dealers at casinos and so on. Just to add its a well known fact that online poker is not random and all poker software uses a system to determine what cards or has the software sees it numbers will come out and this is decided in many ways but none of them randomly as a computer is not capable of generating random numbers

     
  5-Aug-13, 14:59   #11
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vic75 
Joined: Sep '10
Location: Canada
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1959
last 2 days on Full Tilt poker get AA lose to AJ then different tournament get AJ suited lose too AA Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused

     
  5-Aug-13, 17:46   #12
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edusimonsen 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Brazil
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  5-Aug-13, 18:48   #13
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ELDONKOII 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 29
well the good thing now is i opened a BRM bet fred account and started with myh free 10$ i now have 71$ in 4 days and accumalated 600 value points so far this seems to be a very good site to play omaha on they have 9 seater tables and the play standard is actually quite high even at 5c 10 level hardley any real fish donkks here so thanx BRM this seems to be a site i can handle and make money out of my play is standard across all sites but it seems to work much better here than on fulltilt or stars

     
  6-Aug-13, 08:09   #14
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fcumred 

Joined: Apr '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 1238
Posted by rab145:
Just to add its a well known fact that online poker is not random and all poker software uses a system to determine what cards or has the software sees it numbers will come out


Just as a matter of interest, can you provide me ONE ( I only need one ) piece of evidence to support your claim that its a well known fact.



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Posted by ELDONKOII:
well the good thing now is i opened a BRM bet fred account and started with myh free 10$ i now have 71$ in 4 days and accumalated 600 value points so far this seems to be a very good site to play omaha on they have 9 seater tables and the play standard is actually quite high even at 5c 10 level hardley any real fish donkks here so thanx BRM this seems to be a site i can handle and make money out of my play is standard across all sites but it seems to work much better here than on fulltilt or stars


What I really don't understand is this.

You claim you like Betfair because you find the players are better players and you can beat them. But you don't like playing on FTP or PS because there are donks and you can't beat them.

If you can't beat bad players, you will never ever beat good ones, so your statement makes no sense whatsoever.

     
  6-Aug-13, 09:39   #15
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
Posted by fcumred:

What I really don't understand is this.

You claim you like Betfair because you find the players are better players and you can beat them. But you don't like playing on FTP or PS because there are donks and you can't beat them.

If you can't beat bad players, you will never ever beat good ones, so your statement makes no sense whatsoever.



Interesting.

Whilst I agree with you, I think I know what he means.

I seem to have much more success against better players than against fish. I can read them better.
I can explain their thought processes a lot easier too.

So whilst I prob have better results against fish financially, I am much less likely to take beats or suffer losses against good players.

I guess it is my style, giving too much respect to fish when the likely hood is they are just fish. If they can't explain what they are doing and why, then I have no chance of working it out

     
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