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  8-Aug-13, 02:17   #1
i just wanna say -3 
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  8-Aug-13, 02:36   #2
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RoninHarper 

Joined: Nov '12
Location: Canada
Age: 48 (M)
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Well Mate

I feel your pain, I have been there myself.
I dropped $160 over the weekend and every time I got into a hand I started out ahead.
I stopped counting how many times the river gave the guy his miracle one outter.
today I was able to win back $45 of the money I lost to suckout after BS suckout.
Hopefully tomorrow I will continue to regroup even more.
My goal for the year of making $25K playing online poker seems impossible to me now.
I mean I lost 62 days of play time while I was in the hospital and this year I have only won about $4600 bucks.
hopefully your luck will turn around.
I wish you all the best.
be cool

Ronin Cool

     
  8-Aug-13, 02:47   #3
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
Unlucky mate its annoying. Knew you would blow it in a day though. Big Smile Been up and down all night myself so I know how you feel. What NL tables were you on?

     
  8-Aug-13, 02:54   #4
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arrow-knee- 

Joined: Jul '12
Location: Netherlands
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i play motly 6 peeps sng 1,50 or 3,50 headsup or zoom 2 ,5 cents and at all the place crushed crushed crushed im actually thinking of quitng online poker after this maybe go to a casino to play sometime so i know for sure it isnt pokerstars joker (R)ng fucking with me
random number generator my ass im gonna do so reading about pokerstars already found this site lol quite funny

http://fuckpokerstars.com/

dont know if that link is allowed im not linked or involved in that link in any way lol

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i have lost only at poker btw never made a profit

     
  8-Aug-13, 03:38   #5
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
You should have just stuck to low limit cash tables and stuck with strict BR management mate. I have and I am actually up doing that even with the small ups and big downs.

     
  8-Aug-13, 08:56   #6
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mies730 

Joined: Feb '13
Location: Netherlands
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 505
I dont want to insult U here , but this is just plain STUPID. What were U thinking....I am gonne be rich?? I have to make a million of the 50 dollar, within 24 hours.....

Poker is a game of patience and if U have proven one thing, is that U dont have any......

So if U continue ur poker career, I suggest U really start reading some documentation on Bankrollmanagment. Also dont blame ur loss on Bad beats, as U wont be able to chance something about it. Find out what U are doing wrong and improve ur game, by reading poker strategies.

Else U will be a sponsor for the rest of ur (poker)life .


     
  8-Aug-13, 15:25   #7
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10016
I have lost a whole bankroll myself and i know how it feels.
But not in that time space though. It took me longer than a day.
Then i made some adjustments tried other games and now im mostly playing Omaha.
It works for me.
At least most of the times Smile

     
  8-Aug-13, 16:00   #8
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arrow-knee- 

Joined: Jul '12
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Age: 23 (M)
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Posted by mies730:
I dont want to insult U here , but this is just plain STUPID. What were U thinking....I am gonne be rich?? I have to make a million of the 50 dollar, within 24 hours.....

Poker is a game of patience and if U have proven one thing, is that U dont have any......

So if U continue ur poker career, I suggest U really start reading some documentation on Bankrollmanagment. Also dont blame ur loss on Bad beats, as U wont be able to chance something about it. Find out what U are doing wrong and improve ur game, by reading poker strategies.

Else U will be a sponsor for the rest of ur (poker)life .



i don't agree with this yes i have lost 50$ but no i dont play like a retard plus it was 35$ assuming the loss of$ between euro and dollar transation and i gave 2 mates 5$ so 35 $ if im correct plus maybe some people don't play for a long time but i do in wich this time i play calm and easy and if i notice i start playing agrivated i stop for a half or whole hour and go again it isn't like i lost all night ive had ups and downs i started with 3 downs wich took me down to about 30$ then stayed there for an hour or 2 winning losing then i slipped down noticed i was agritated so i stopped at around 25$ waited an hour to cool down then started playing but i just kepped getting sucked out i took a deepbreath with another hour down and 20$ left and retry got back to 25 in an hour and thats about the schematics off my bankroll up and down i play for about 1,50 a match yes ive lost it all in one day but i played from like 3 in the middle of the day till 6 in the morning (last game took a bit long xD) most people won't do this and keep focus but i do if i find myself losing concentration i stop so no i do not agree with you and feel a little bit insulted Sad grapje man Blink
well i agree i need to read somemore about position play Big Smile

     
  8-Aug-13, 19:14   #9
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TigerAxL 

Joined: Feb '11
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Posted by arrow-knee-:
F**K POKER!!!!!!!!!!
excuse my languege pokerstars atleast yup lost al 50$ of brm in 1 day why?
because everytime i have the nuts the river says NO
ive even hit a full house on a flop i raise the dude resaises me ik go all in he calls pocket pair turn river guy wins 4 of a kind i was like wtf thats just 1 example of a day full of frustation

its like its impossible to win i
win a few bucks then go down having a hard time to get back up then i keep losing all my good hands and im not talking coin flip im talking turn or flop all in crushed by a river
i hit 88 guy raises i cal flop A 6 8 i raise he re raises im thinking he hit an ace bam pokcet aces
and thats a rare senario where the guy was ahead or had the nuts while i went all in

even in this one heads up game coinflip he had 20 chips he went all in 4 times in a row 4 times i had atleast a k8 or better he always had worse everytime he hits 1 card i hit nothing
i could go on raging like this all night but i wont i will just curse poker /(stars)
for a whole month for this s**t it doesnt matter if i play tight aggressive loose passive name it wont work F**K POKER!!!!!!!! im starting to trust online poker less and less
'
btw if u have 33 go all in ive seen 33 win like 99/100 times today :S

gues what, the one time i saw it loose... i had the 33...

so yeah f**k it all very mad even though it was free money still pissed of at what i just witnessed Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!


yea, if u did play on ring games ........i just say that esspecially on cash game/ring game on PS is madness
why don t u try other platform ,refresh yourself (for me worked) or be a good manager of u re BR and play more S&G then ring

     
  8-Aug-13, 19:20   #10
  0 
Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
What poker site did you play on Arrow?

     
  8-Aug-13, 19:42   #11
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arrow-knee- 

Joined: Jul '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 23 (M)
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pokerstars

     
  8-Aug-13, 19:55   #12
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
Age: 31 (M)
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well i soon get 50 usd from brm and i think there pretty big chance i lose it all prolly not with 1 day cuz i plan to play tourneys 1- 2.50 buy ins Big Smile

     
  8-Aug-13, 20:49   #13
  0 
mies730 

Joined: Feb '13
Location: Netherlands
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 505
Posted by arrow-knee-:
Posted by mies730:
I dont want to insult U here , but this is just plain STUPID. What were U thinking....I am gonne be rich?? I have to make a million of the 50 dollar, within 24 hours.....

Poker is a game of patience and if U have proven one thing, is that U dont have any......

So if U continue ur poker career, I suggest U really start reading some documentation on Bankrollmanagment. Also dont blame ur loss on Bad beats, as U wont be able to chance something about it. Find out what U are doing wrong and improve ur game, by reading poker strategies.

Else U will be a sponsor for the rest of ur (poker)life .



i don't agree with this yes i have lost 50$ but no i dont play like a retard plus it was 35$ assuming the loss of$ between euro and dollar transation and i gave 2 mates 5$ so 35 $ if im correct plus maybe some people don't play for a long time but i do in wich this time i play calm and easy and if i notice i start playing agrivated i stop for a half or whole hour and go again it isn't like i lost all night ive had ups and downs i started with 3 downs wich took me down to about 30$ then stayed there for an hour or 2 winning losing then i slipped down noticed i was agritated so i stopped at around 25$ waited an hour to cool down then started playing but i just kepped getting sucked out i took a deepbreath with another hour down and 20$ left and retry got back to 25 in an hour and thats about the schematics off my bankroll up and down i play for about 1,50 a match yes ive lost it all in one day but i played from like 3 in the middle of the day till 6 in the morning (last game took a bit long xD) most people won't do this and keep focus but i do if i find myself losing concentration i stop so no i do not agree with you and feel a little bit insulted Sad grapje man Blink
well i agree i need to read somemore about position play Big Smile



I understand that U dont agree, but while U think that U did it well and lost by bad luck. There might be a chance that that ur play wasnt as good as U think it was. I never said U play like a retard , as I cant judge that as we've never been on a table together. Besides that I am not some brilliant player who cantell other people what to do, as I am no poker millionaire ( by far)..

But my game is improving and so is my Bankroll. I used to have a lot of trouble with bankrollmanagment. I had a lot of days like urs where I lost 50 dollars or more in 1 day.
Then I started reading some guidelines bout BRM and things started to change. After that I found loads of other ways to improve my game and I will find loads more in the future as I keep reading.

On the changing part.... U received $50...so how does that become $35?? I think U are mixing things up. I think U play in euro's, instead of dollars. Then it makes sense.

And remember I never called U stupid....I said what U did was stupid and that U will learn when U keep urself to good bankrollmanagment. Downswings and badbeats are taken in to considderation.

I hope U see that I actually ment well, else I would not have botherd to reply in the first place.

Best of luck and see U at the home game tables.




     
  8-Aug-13, 20:50   #14
  +1 
gazza2009 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 188
Posted by arrow-knee-:
F**K POKER!!!!!!!!!!
excuse my languege pokerstars atleast yup lost al 50$ of brm in 1 day why?
because everytime i have the nuts the river says NO
ive even hit a full house on a flop i raise the dude resaises me ik go all in he calls pocket pair turn river guy wins 4 of a kind i was like wtf thats just 1 example of a day full of frustation

its like its impossible to win i
win a few bucks then go down having a hard time to get back up then i keep losing all my good hands and im not talking coin flip im talking turn or flop all in crushed by a river
i hit 88 guy raises i cal flop A 6 8 i raise he re raises im thinking he hit an ace bam pokcet aces
and thats a rare senario where the guy was ahead or had the nuts while i went all in

even in this one heads up game coinflip he had 20 chips he went all in 4 times in a row 4 times i had atleast a k8 or better he always had worse everytime he hits 1 card i hit nothing
i could go on raging like this all night but i wont i will just curse poker /(stars)
for a whole month for this s**t it doesnt matter if i play tight aggressive loose passive name it wont work F**K POKER!!!!!!!! im starting to trust online poker less and less
'
btw if u have 33 go all in ive seen 33 win like 99/100 times today :S

gues what, the one time i saw it loose... i had the 33...

so yeah f**k it all very mad even though it was free money still pissed of at what i just witnessed Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!



It maybe cuz u suck at poker think u should give up?

     
  8-Aug-13, 21:03   #15
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
I think on some hands you had bad luck indeed but still this not explains why you shouldn't respected the first rule of poker?

Thats is of course bankroll management, i mean when you saw that you lost 3 or 4 buy ins you should have stopped for the day!

     
  8-Aug-13, 21:03   #16
  0 
Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
Thats not very nice you could have worded it better, like your spelling.

     
  8-Aug-13, 21:37   #17
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karas0zero 
Joined: Dec '09
Location: Poland
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 7
You know what is funny about saying 'read some about bankroll management' or 'you should obey brm'? That I dont know a single guy who made some decent sum of money while not respecting brm at all.
Achieving a streak of 2-3 big wins from monsters shouldnt be THAT hard.
I remember when I went on tilt once - I took my remaining 80 bucks and went on head ups NL100. Lost like 12 bucks due to very agressive dude and then I got dealt some monster which led to all-in and me dbling up my 'bankroll'. Dude instantly topped up and not that much later(like couple of hands) I hit top straight on flop, and again forced dude to all-in shove. He managed to hit backdoor flush on river and I lost everything.
I tried couple of times playing high buy-in tourneys and also no luck, while on the stat side I had huge favor.
While I love poker as a game I kinda dislike 'laws' it represent that you cannot ignore. I hate that you must play thousands of hands in order to make a true profit or even to see if the problem is you or variance ect.
That is the reason why I recently switched to OMAHA. Thanks to 4-card starting hand you can clearly see what are your REAL chances of winning, there is less variance so you can see how your doing quite fast ect. The only minus for me are huge pots tho. If we assume that players are competent then its totaly fine, but sometimes you can meet a guy who gonna chase some draw till river calling your bets whenever its 1/3 pot bet or pot bet and hitting that draw on river and making to waste all huge bets pre-river.



PS. Do you guys know ANY1 who lets say deposited 100 bucks, played in 2x 50$ buy-in tourneys or went into cash game on NL50/NL100 and managed to win a lot? Coz all ppl I know including me went into suckout very fast while not obeying BRM.

     
  8-Aug-13, 23:39   #18
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5681
You seem TOTALLY enraged there dude... I can see things flying around in your house,...like the lamp getting flung at the wall,...the TV being thrown through the living room window,....ripping your computer out of the wall by the roots... Angry Big Smile

With only $50 though,...I would have spread it out over a lot more low priced tourney buy ins... $5.50, $4.40, $2.75, $2.20, $1.10. Playing all of those once per day got me over $800 in profit over a few months, and I still have the original $50. Incidentally,...it was a $50 BrM cashout from 3 months ago.... Still have it!

I certainly hope more and better luck goes your way dude...! Smile Thumbs Up

     
  8-Aug-13, 23:45   #19
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arrow-knee- 

Joined: Jul '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 560
nicely done m8 yeha was a bit (very raging at that point even i -1 my own post) anyways Big Smile
look at this lol

PokerStarshand #102501146923: Toernooi #767960049, 10FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 09/08/2013 1:41:17 CET [08/08/2013 19:41:17 ET]
Tafel '767960049 41' 9-max Plaats #2 is de button
Plaats 1: KIMSTIR666 (1500 in chips)
Plaats 2: Murhian (1490 in chips)
Plaats 3: Halothan (1480 in chips)
Plaats 4: DexterNobre (1500 in chips)
Plaats 5: lobomau10 (1500 in chips)
Plaats 6: arrow-knee- (1480 in chips)
Plaats 7: tiseo (1500 in chips)
Plaats 8: Thaiger7 (1500 in chips)
Plaats 9: armandant (1550 in chips)
Halothan: zet small blind 10
DexterNobre: zet big blind 20
*** GESLOTEN KAARTEN ***
Gedeeld aan arrow-knee- [Qc Qd]
lobomau10: callt 20
arrow-knee-: raiset 20 naar 40
tiseo: callt 40
Thaiger7: foldt
armandant: raiset 1510 naar 1550 en is all-in
KIMSTIR666: foldt
Murhian: foldt
Halothan: foldt
DexterNobre: foldt
lobomau10: callt 1480 en is all-in
arrow-knee-: callt 1440 en is all-in
tiseo: foldt
De niet-gecallde bet (50) is geretourneerd aan armandant
*** FLOP *** [6c 5d 9c]
*** TURN *** [6c 5d 9c] 7 of hearts
*** RIVER *** [6c 5d 9c 7h] 8 of hearts
*** SHOWDOWN ***
lobomau10: toont [As Ah] (een straight, Vijf tot Negen)
armandant: toont [Ks Kc] (een straight, Vijf tot Negen)
lobomau10 won 20 van bij pot
armandant won 20 van bij pot
arrow-knee-: toont [Qc Qd] (een straight, Vijf tot Negen)
lobomau10 won 1504 van hoofd pot
arrow-knee- won 1503 van hoofd pot
armandant won 1503 van hoofd pot
*** SAMENVATTING ***
Totale pot 4550 Hoofd pot 4510. Bij pot 40. | Rake 0
Board [6c 5d 9c 7h 8h]

     
  9-Aug-13, 00:19   #20
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
Seen those and other pockets in a tournament before. I won with KK luckily as was short stacked. That said,if two people went all in before me I would have folded queens as either higher pockets or AK.

If it makes you feel any better I am doing well tonight grinding tables. Big Smile

     
  9-Aug-13, 02:02   #21
  0 
arrow-knee- 

Joined: Jul '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 560
yeah when they showed KK AA when i had QQ i was like nooooooooooooooooo
straight fell on the table i was like yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
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