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  9-Oct-13, 16:49   #1
The ROYAL FLUSH... 0 
demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5680
...that wasn't to be.... Confused

So this clown...(player 6) is betting pre-flop a mixture of either shoves with junk,....or sizeable bets,...and donking his way to a sizeable stack. After a while I figured out his style,...which was one of 2 things:

-Shoves it all in pre-flop if he has JUNK

-Places ONLY a sizeable bet if he actually has a good pocket

So he places a sizeable bet, and I'm thinking he has something good. I fold my 10d Jd because to that point pretty much everything I played or would have played would have lost,...and decided to wait for something better....

BOOM: http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/5269426_7...


     
  9-Oct-13, 16:58   #2
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DarkOmni 
Joined: Sep '13
Location: Romania
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 31
i know how it feels ... but some times you have to bite the bullet ... and go with your guts not your mind ...

     
  9-Oct-13, 17:53   #3
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sergejcho 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 63 (M)
Posts: 530
Demodawggy , i fully agree with you about the folding , because many times if some player makes a big raise i fold maybe the nuts J T Suite , as i say maybe the nuts but some people goes allin and some times is they goes all in with 20-25% from my chips i can go and see what he can offer. Because i think we all go to be royal flushed. Gl

     
  9-Oct-13, 20:10   #4
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
Even if i could have noticed that such a player does that your hand was pretty good to call his bet at least knowing that his hand is most probably a pair...

I must admit that from time to time you need to gamble a bit more with these type of player it usually pays off.

     
  9-Oct-13, 20:36   #5
  0 
Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10011
That one doesnt count at all. Smile I had a few hands like that over the years playing Omaha games.
It really pisses you off though not hitting them, no matter if its a freeroll or not.

     
  9-Oct-13, 20:36   #6
  +1 
mirexxx 
Joined: Sep '11
Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 2725

http://fuckpokerstars.com/

Forget online poker, online poker is not for winning the money, it's adrenaline that will destroy you! The pokerstars software is managed by bots (software players – not real people) or by pokerstars workers/owners who playing with you on the same table sorting their own cards and taking wins. Pokerstars is rigged as hell, they know your cards, they give a tricky river and you loose with your not quite the biggest hand!
On pokerstars is huge action, not as in life poker, that makes you not to fold easily and to bet highly. Think, who is paying them, why they became this rich?! But really, who? This is question. We pay, buddy! We throw money to them and they happy to take all as much as possible. This game is well advertised and many players who like poker and don't google 'what is pokerstars' are playing there and later being robbed by their system. So, my website is to protect you and everybody. Please read the crushing players stories who write us and understand the truth. Pokerstars and other online poker games are cheating us by preloaded cards!

     
  12-Oct-13, 01:20   #7
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mascona 

Joined: Jun '08
Location: Poland
Age: 76 (M)
Posts: 530
Simple example how PokerStars increases rake more than 2 times / from 13c to 30c /

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5264658_AAF5...


Here even better example how PokerStars RAKE GENERATOR works - watch how magic river increase the rake :

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/4841215_3BBF...


Edited by mascona (Saturday, October 12, 2013 @ 01:52 GMT)


     
  12-Oct-13, 03:40   #8
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5680
I've played in PLENTY odf hands where I or somebody else got 4 of a kind....and the 4th card of a kind doesn't ALWAYS come on the river...!!! Sometimes they come on the flop, or the turn!

Sometimes I get them,...sometimes the other guy... Consider THAT... Aww crap! Big Smile Thumbs Up

     
  12-Oct-13, 11:34   #9
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Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1022
Posted by mirexxx:

http://fuckpokerstars.com/

Forget online poker, online poker is not for winning the money, it's adrenaline that will destroy you! The pokerstars software is managed by bots (software players � not real people) or by pokerstars workers/owners who playing with you on the same table sorting their own cards and taking wins. Pokerstars is rigged as hell, they know your cards, they give a tricky river and you loose with your not quite the biggest hand!
On pokerstars is huge action, not as in life poker, that makes you not to fold easily and to bet highly. Think, who is paying them, why they became this rich?! But really, who? This is question. We pay, buddy! We throw money to them and they happy to take all as much as possible. This game is well advertised and many players who like poker and don't google 'what is pokerstars' are playing there and later being robbed by their system. So, my website is to protect you and everybody. Please read the crushing players stories who write us and understand the truth. Pokerstars and other online poker games are cheating us by preloaded cards!




Hello Mobsters,

I totally agree with you mirexxx! You are right about everything.

I will tell you a secret. When I had a training period few years ago, working for some (very famous) online POKER rooms, our trainer told us:

".......................We work with sick people. We work with addicted people-online gamblers. But we don't care! You have to know that our salaries are coming from these addicted online gamblers! Always we have to respect them, becuse they give us our salaries! Our email replies always have to be in a respect manner. Our poker room won more than $2 BILLION JUST FOR ONE YEAR WORLDWIDE! When a player tells you by email or chat that he has addicted gambling problems, or wants a free bonus from you, like tournament tickets, or free cash, BLOCK (BAN) HIS/HER ACCOUNT IMMEDIATELY and then explain him/her via email that for security reasons his/her account was closed. We have originally written template blanks for every kind of case (account, cash out, tournaments and and many more), so you can serach the individual case & COPY/PASTE the necessary template blank and that way you can answer the player via email or chat. From the chat window of our site if you make new account registrations, new players who you invite at our poker platform, you will GET DOUBLE BONUS TO YOUR SALARY. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS TO MAKE FROM 10 UNTILL 30 NEW INVITAIONS FOR NEW PLAYERS PER DAY. YOUR SALARIES ARE VERY BIG BUT THEY CAN BE DOUBLED AND TRIPPLED IF YOU MAKE INVITATIONS AT OUR POKER SITE. IF A ONLINE POKER PLAYER WINS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM A POKER TOURNAMENT & IF THAT PLAYER DOESN'T ORDER A CASHOUT WITHIN 48 HOURS FROM HIS TIME OF WINNING, DO NOT PAY HIM THE PRIZE. WITHOLD (BLOCK) THE PRIZE NOT TO BE WITHDRAWN. THE PLAYER HAS TO USE THE WINNINGS TO PLAY AT THE CASH TABLES, NOT TO CASHOUT IT!!! IF HE/SHE WANTS TO CASH OUT, WE HAVE STANDART PROCEDURES (TEMPLATE BLANKS) WHICH BY COPY/PASTE YOU CAN SEND VIA EMAIL TO THE PLAYER!!!..................."

Well, my friends this is the sad truth about the online poker! I shared with you some secrets how the trainers educate the new Customer Support Agents (Help Desk Agents) for their online poker companies. For security reasons, I can not tell you which are these site, because it is confidential, but I will tell you that these poker sites are in TOP 10 in the world. So, you make your own conclusions.

Something interesting:

Did you know that during the whole 2012 ONLY from The Republic of Bulgaria (online players from the Bulgarian territory), ONLY from online poker and online casino players, all these poker and casino sites have taken from Bulgaria and have WON EUR 2 BILLION !!!

CAN YOU IMAGINE JUST FOR ONE YEAR ONLINE OPERATORS TOOK EUR 2 BILLION JUST FROM ONE COUNTRY! THESE ARE OFFICIAL STATEMENTS BY OUR GOVERNMENT. CAN YOU CALCULATE HOW MUCH THE ONLINE OPERATORS TAKE (WIN) FROM PLAYERS JUST FOR ONE YEAR IN 50 COUNTRIES FOR EXAMPLE. AT LEAST IT SHOULD BE 50 X EUR 2 BILLION = EUR 100 BILLION!!!

EUR 100 BILLION JUST FOR ONE YEAR!!! That is why I support the Bulgarian Governement who created the BLACK LIST OF THESE ONLINE OPERATORS AND THEY ARE BANNED (BLOCKED) BY OUR GOVERNMENT. The argument is that if they want to operate on the territory of Bulgaria, they have to pay EUR 20000 for a Licence. But the law is created that way, that the licence to be given very difficult, or almost impossible. Untill today only EuroFutbol Malta has an online licence.

But all we, the bulgarian citizens know wery well, what is the real truth behind this "BLACK LIST". Our Government wants to protect us from online gambling, because nowadays it's somekind of fashion. People are poor, most of them. They have montly salaries EUR 170 until EUR 250 and they buy "DREAMS" playing on these online poker and casino sites. Plus our Governemnt know very well that huge amount of money taken from Bulgaria per year (EUR 2 BILLION) from the online operators is a very huge loss for our small country (7 million people). That is why they created the "BLACK LIST" and banned all these sites from the territory of Bulgaria and it is illegal to play there. I support the actions of our government. Most of the countries should do the same.

The most ridiculous part is that Ratinal Group LLC (PokerStars & FullTilt Poker) is telling that the bulgarians players who have created accounts before 1st of June 2013, they can deposit and play for safe. Not to worry about anything! This is really crazy! Our Government blocked all their sites and said it is illegal to play there untill the moment when the Bulgarian State Gambling Commission give them a license to operate in the territory of Bulgaria, but PokerStars said: "Don't worry players, deposit and play, we will get that license very soon. Just in a couple of months." PokerStars are really very nasty. No laws for Ratinal Group LLC.

This is the address of Pokerstars:

Rational Entertaiment Enterprises Limited
King Edward Road Onchan
Douglas Bay Complex, IM3 1DZ
Isle Of Man


The "BLACK LIST" is filled every day with more and more sites.

THIS IS THE BULGARIAN BLACK LIST UNTILL TODAY (12th OF OCT 2013):

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http://vegaswinner.com

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Well mobsters, unfortunately this is the sad truth about the online operators.

Make your own conclusions!

Best regards,

Peter7878



     
  12-Oct-13, 12:04   #10
  0 
HenryMinute 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 67 (M)
Posts: 207
Know that feeling. Been there, done that!

In one of last nights BRM freerolls on FT there were about 10 to fall before the money, I was UTG and got A,T off.

Thought about it and thought about it and finally decided to fold em. Sad

Flop: T, A, A
Turn: 6
River: A

Boo hoo bloody hoo!!! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  12-Oct-13, 16:40   #11
  0 
Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1022
HOW YOU WILL COMMENT ALL THESE HANDS? Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile This could happen only at PokerStars!

     
  12-Oct-13, 16:49   #12
  0 
mascona 

Joined: Jun '08
Location: Poland
Age: 76 (M)
Posts: 530
My comment: pitty that I was not in it with KT. Aww crap!

     
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