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  10-Oct-13, 18:19   #1
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Arty182925 
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This happen when full tilt had more freerolls.

As you can see, hand was awesome at first look, but if you look at whole picture you will see this is omaha Disagree , and this hand isn't so good as it looks.

Too bad this hand came at wrong poker.

I wish this cards on holdem lol.

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  10-Oct-13, 18:40   #2
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linz47 
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unlucky m8 but it looks good you should use it as a screensaver lol. Big Smile

     
  10-Oct-13, 19:58   #3
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Macubaas 
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Glad you play omaha only as freerolls mate, 4 same cards or 3 same cards on omaha is instant fold preflop...

But i guess for players that are used to holdem must be an interesting sight for sure Smile

     
  10-Oct-13, 21:07   #4
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Mober 
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I had the same hand once in Omaha along with one with all Tens.
Had taken a screenshot myself also but lost them at some point in a format i did.
I was more amazed from that hand than when i got my first royal.

     
  11-Oct-13, 05:29   #5
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shokaku 

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In Omaha 4 aces is a bad starting hand. You can't improve and have to rely on the other players not to make a hand.

For Hold'em: If you start a hand with 4 holecards, you are in deep trouble. Blink

     
  11-Oct-13, 06:26   #6
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Arty182925 
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Yeah I fold it preflop lol.

Worst thing is alot of people would go all in on that cards.

And shokaku, 4 holecards like that in hold them, I would put 2 cards on table and 2 will stay in hand Big Smile. Nobody needs to know where 2 cards came from lol.

Now only thing is missing that I get 4 worst cards, "poker" of two's in omaha.


     
  11-Oct-13, 10:01   #7
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pochui 

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@shokaku - lmfao, yeah it makes you consider a few things in life if you happen to start a texas holdem hand with 4 hole cards. +1
guess u can play this hand in omaha- it's just that u are sure that in order to win you will have to bluff, in a way this is a good hand, since you know that you have no chance to improve and only look for spots to steal the pot

     
  11-Oct-13, 12:19   #8
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Arty182925 
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Posted by Arty182925:
Yeah I fold it preflop lol.

Worst thing is alot of people would go all in on that cards.

And shokaku, 4 holecards like that in hold them, I would put 2 cards on table and 2 will stay in hand Big Smile. Nobody needs to know where 2 cards came from lol.

Now only thing is missing that I get 4 worst cards, "poker" of two's in omaha.



holdem*

     
  11-Oct-13, 20:29   #9
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Macubaas 
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You did the perfect thing, a regular NL player from 888 that started playing omaha went all in against me on flop with KKKK.

The idea is that the hand can be confusing for NL players that switch or want to play just for fun omaha.

Arty, you should start playing omaha cash too, it can be more profitable than holdem and the traffic is great nowadays.

     
  12-Oct-13, 00:17   #10
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Mober 
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If there is no raise or its a small one i dont see this being bad to call.
No matter what AAAA and KKKK are the two highest pairs and its more than a few times
that you can win a hand like that in Omaha.

     
  12-Oct-13, 08:59   #11
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Arty182925 
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Posted by Macubaas:
You did the perfect thing, a regular NL player from 888 that started playing omaha went all in against me on flop with KKKK.

The idea is that the hand can be confusing for NL players that switch or want to play just for fun omaha.

Arty, you should start playing omaha cash too, it can be more profitable than holdem and the traffic is great nowadays.


Alot of people would go all in on that in omaha. I guess people doesn't understand omaha much.

And I played before omaha for cash, but problem is that people are calling on whatever they have and hoping for magic river (what always comes). Because of that, I stopped playing omaha for money.

Posted by Mober:
If there is no raise or its a small one i dont see this being bad to call.
No matter what AAAA and KKKK are the two highest pairs and its more than a few times
that you can win a hand like that in Omaha.


It's very hard to win with this because someone for sure will have better, three of a kind or str8 or flush, or 2 pairs without pair on table. And if noone has that, you cannot win much anyway, so better to fold.

     
  12-Oct-13, 14:26   #12
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Heskor 
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Lol i remember when i registered for a heads up omaha instead of holdem, i just all in and guess what I sucked out and I won the hand lol.

Anyway omaha needs a special set of skills, you need to be able to deal with the swings, 10Bi+ swings are not uncommon for a session, losing it 10bi in a row that is lol.

Also you will need good reading skills and always go for the nuts, not the second nuts that you will get most of the time, this is the way to burn money!!

For hands having AAxx is not as good as when you hold it for texas holdem, I think with AAKKs you have the best hand preflop but you will win just about 60% of the time not like AA against other where you are more than 70 % favorite!!

Also having AAAx, or AAAA, full quads in hand is a junk hand, you cannot improve to a quads, nor a trio..because you use only 2 cards on your hand and the rest on the board.

Anyway good luck if you trying out omaha, try freerolls of course!!

     
  12-Oct-13, 14:42   #13
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DaCapo71 
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The Problems in freeroll is, that to much Players are in every hand. And so they bust a top hand with their crap hands. I is verry heavy to play against this maniacs without crazy moves...

     
  12-Oct-13, 14:48   #14
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shokaku 

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In Omaha the difference in starting hands is not as big as it is in Hold'em. Omaha is a flop game. If your hand doesn't connect, it doesn't matter how strong your hand was before the flop.


     
  13-Oct-13, 13:29   #15
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Arty182925 
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Best way to play omaha is to find good table (good players) and that is very hard to find. At least 2 players in 6 seat table are players who are idiots. Who are going on every single hand whatever they have, people who are raising on everything.

So many times I lost against people who are raising till end and get magic river.

For example. My brother had A A K 2 in hand. Flop was A K K, guy before him raised every hand and on everything. My bro reraised him on flop and that guy went all in. He had 10 10 2 7. Guess what. Turn was 10, river was 10. Luck? I don't think so.

In omaha if you don't have nuts, someone else has.

     
  13-Oct-13, 16:37   #16
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Mober 
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If you dont play in big sites, eveyr time you play your session, have a couple more tables
open and watch the rest of the players. I do that and take notes on them, since at least in
hi/lo most of the times, you see familiar players.

     
  13-Oct-13, 22:05   #17
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Arty182925 
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Posted by Mober:
If you dont play in big sites, eveyr time you play your session, have a couple more tables
open and watch the rest of the players. I do that and take notes on them, since at least in
hi/lo most of the times, you see familiar players.


Yeah. But if you are playing on sites like Pokerstars you are familiar with alot of idiots lol.

But again, you can color them and you will know next time not to play with them. My pokerstars tables are mostly filled with RED because of idiots. Worst thing they are playing on 10++ tables and you can find them everywhere.

     
  14-Oct-13, 17:00   #18
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Mober 
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Havent ever played in Poker Stars, but having in mind the amount of players they
have, then Omaha hi/lo has for sure the most players from any other site.
Its only logic.
Playing in smaller sites though, that sometimes is hard to find a hi/lo table open
depending on time, there you can tag the majority of them Smile
The easier ones to spot and take profit from there is the AA players, playing
that hand with pot bets till river Smile

     
  15-Oct-13, 07:52   #19
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Arty182925 
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On pokerstars you have so many different players, but mostly of them think that online poker is just like every online game. Playing for fun, going all in even they don't know what all in means.

But pokerstars have good games to play, like pokerschool league where you can get alot of money just for playing freerolls. And if you collect 20FPP and if you finish in good place, you get ticket for premier league. There are almost all good players. And in premier you have chance to win really ALOT money.


     
  15-Oct-13, 16:52   #20
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Heskor 
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Posted by Arty182925:
On pokerstars you have so many different players, but mostly of them think that online poker is just like every online game. Playing for fun, going all in even they don't know what all in means.

But pokerstars have good games to play, like pokerschool league where you can get alot of money just for playing freerolls. And if you collect 20FPP and if you finish in good place, you get ticket for premier league. There are almost all good players. And in premier you have chance to win really ALOT money.




Pokerschool league is just a tough field, I played it sometimes, the first place get $5 and the others get less than $1, if you run good you can go 400 people out of 10,000 people and it is now that it gets hard.

First of all you had to beat 10,000 people and the price is too low, for place below the first one, and you have to be consistent in the pokerschool freeroll if you happens to bink the tourney once and get out in the next 4, you will have less points and you will have to bink another or final table again to get a chance to move up!

Also for the premier skill league we need to put in like $1 dollars to play I think or have a ticket, i dont know which and the field is tougher there since you had to beat the pokerschool freeroll first and then go to the other one.

Overall it is just too time consuming, there are lots of better and easier freerolls out there, less players, field is soft. But if you enjoy it, by any means play it. Freerolls are just a way for me train my skills!

     
  16-Oct-13, 08:26   #21
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Arty182925 
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Pokerschool league is best and only pokerstars has it.

You are playing league not freeroll. For first place you get around 5 dollars but that isnt important as important is whole league.

If you finish first in end of month you can get 1500 dollars. At premier first place gets 5000 dollars. And to qualify to premier skill league you need to collect 20FPP in one month and finish in first 500 in montly league.

To stay in premier you need to be in first 800 and collect 20fpp. When you are playing premier there isnt so much people. It can be to 500 people, once I played with 200 only. Premier is for people with skill, ofc there are idiots too but only little.

That what you said 1$, that is only qualifying league, but you don't need to play for 1$ because in free league you can get premier league ticket. I was playing before every month but I stopped now because I don't have time atm.

Go to pokerschool league page and read about it. You will see how much money they are giving. Your goal is to collect more and more points in every freeroll league tourney. I finished once 79 from 300k people who were playing montly league.

Have fun

     
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