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  19-Oct-13, 13:29   #1
PokerStars RUSSIAN DONKEY FESTIVAL 0 
Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1022
PokerStars Russian Donkey Festival
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Hi Mobsters,

This is my report from yesterday:

I decided to make an experiment. I played 12 hours at the PokerStars cash tables $0.02/$0.04 - Fixed Limit Texas Hold'em and I decided to play every hand I had, no matter what it is until the river. All the tables were fulled with Russians so, I had no choice.

I played at a table fulled with Russians. I decided to play like them, like a complete donkey, with no sence and logic at all. I played every hand until the river. Almost never folded. I think for 12 hours I folded just twice. And look what happened:



1. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5427241_A64F...

a donkey competition! I really thought that I will lose that hand, but look what happened: Smile

2. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5426526_FAB5...

This is really crazy! To win like that:

3. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5425312_46EF...

4. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424846_194E...

5. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424461_77CE...

6. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5430049_7E71...

7. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5427818_9BF7...

8. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5426701_43A6...

9. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5426080_09FE...

10. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5425075_7C0E...

A funny full house: Smile

11. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424574_C685...

These Russians are really crazy:

12. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424180_F0DB...

I played here like a donk, but the magic river helped me:

13. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5428044_0227...

OMG, is this real? I won that hand:

14. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5427120_0B36...

Crazy Russians! Finally, they fold it:

15. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5426190_798A...

He called with 85 until the river? Absolutely ridiculous:

16. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5425179_A691...

That Russian called with 66??? I am speechless:

17. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424811_5D37...

Absolutely crazy! He raised:

18. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424452_7ACE...

That Russian raised until the river with 6K??? No comments:

19. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5429712_D9FD...

Finally he checks:

20. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5427559_81BC...

All they raise!!!

21. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5426635_625D...


Finally, he folded for the first time!!! Nice fold!

22. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5425395_A911...

OMG, I won against KK & AA!!!

23. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424949_B08F...

24. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424557_8B53...

He called!

25. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424168_5314...

This Russian is absolutely crazy!!! He raised and reraised with absolutely nothing! I am speechless:

26. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5427859_CA82...

He raised again with nothing!!!

27. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5427004_50DD...

The magic river helped me:

28. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5426167_95F2...

Crazy Russians!!! They called:

29. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5425148_02D7...

A crazy Russian! He called:

30. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424638_5DB7...

Usually I fold 23, but I decided to play, and look what happened:

31. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5424280_0E0F...

I thought I will lose that hand, but look what happened:

32. http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5428760_C67C...

Well, this is my story from yesterday guys. I hope you like it. I think this is the only way to play against Russians, because they bluff like crazy and never stop bluffing!

Usually I don’t play like that. If the players were from other countries I would fold most of the hands, but these Russians made me to do it!

I will be glad if you comment the hands, which are interesting to you. Have I played right against those Russians?

Smile


Best Regards,

Peter7878

     
  19-Oct-13, 13:35   #2
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8628
well that's all rosy and cool, but now comes the main question: "did you make any money on the night?"

yeah probably it's quite a bit of fun to play this way, really no stress whatsoever (if you have money to spare), just keep you finger on the raise/call button...still a bit short on the real russian roulette- u need to raise/reraise any hand u have to qualify for the "russian club" imo

     
  19-Oct-13, 13:51   #3
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Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1022
Posted by pochui:
well that's all rosy and cool, but now comes the main question: "did you make any money on the night?"

yeah probably it's quite a bit of fun to play this way, really no stress whatsoever (if you have money to spare), just keep you finger on the raise/call button...still a bit short on the real russian roulette- u need to raise/reraise any hand u have to qualify for the "russian club" imo


Hahaha, pochui you are right! I made automatic options for call, raise and reraise buttons! Big Smile I hope soon I will qualify for the "russian club" and I will have a guarantee seat for that club! Big Smile

Well, the yesterday play was more like a casino slot machines play Big Smile It was really fun to see the reactions of those Russians! I entered with $5 at these tables, after 6 hours I made almost $20 and now comes the answer to your main question: After playing 6 hours more I lost the money! Big Smile

But the experince was quite excited! One player from Lithuania told me: "Thanks Ivanov for sharing your chips with us". Big Smile

     
  19-Oct-13, 14:36   #4
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
If in doubt; Russian it. Big Smile

     
  19-Oct-13, 18:36   #5
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Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1022
OMG, what a drama! The first hand of the Sunday Storm Sat: 5+R FPP NLHE [2x-Turbo] tournament and I was out with AA ! Sad That guy won with JJJJ. He is a lucky one.

http://www.boomplayer.com/bg/poker-hands/Boom/5445699_6...





Edited by Peter7878 (Saturday, October 19, 2013 @ 18:40 GMT)


     
  19-Oct-13, 18:39   #6
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
It happens. AA does not mean instant win every time you have it.

     
  19-Oct-13, 18:41   #7
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Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1022
Yes, you are right. Smile

     
  19-Oct-13, 18:46   #8
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
Although I always think it should. Heh. Blink

     
  19-Oct-13, 20:28   #9
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10016
I watched many of you replays and you got very lucky indeed.
Too bad you blew it all away later. You should have called it a day after winning
the 20$. Good luck on your next sessions, like the one you had on your replays Cool

     
  20-Oct-13, 04:48   #10
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mascona 

Joined: Jun '08
Location: Poland
Age: 76 (M)
Posts: 537
Another spectacular russian skill example AND / what a surprise !!! / PokerStars support it again / big stack will get it all the time/ :

http://www.boomplayer.com/pl/poker-hands/Boom/5454004_8...

     
  20-Oct-13, 07:34   #11
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
Another excelent thread Peter and i guess you basically proved what is important: that style of play makes you a losing player over a long period of time!

The only thing that these russians do is to ruin the game really. Still i also saw very good russian players but they are an exception.

     
  20-Oct-13, 14:52   #12
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DaCapo71 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 1707
It is always the same, the maicas at the tables crushing your good hands. In the lower levels or in freerolls you play every time vs. 3-4 other Maics with your premium Hands and get suckouts. It is unbelievable, how often you loose against donk Hands at the river.

     
  20-Oct-13, 16:29   #13
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5680
I am convinced that Russians have nothing more than giant cabbage rolls for brains,....floating in a medium of vodka and tomato sauce! It is absolutely INCREDIBLE how some of those hands got played!

I played like an idiot like that for about a week on the PS/BrM leaderboard,...and skyrocketed to the top. THEN I tightened up to protect what I had gained,....and haven't gained much since...

Maybe those Russians know something we don't...

This guy in this hand here I was in MUST be a Russian immigrant to Canada...:

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hands/Boom/5444234_863E...

     
  20-Oct-13, 17:30   #14
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mascona 

Joined: Jun '08
Location: Poland
Age: 76 (M)
Posts: 537
No, it was a freeroll for bored people and he just had enought ...... please don't post a freeroll hands as an example of anything, becouse it's stupid Thumbs Down

     
  20-Oct-13, 17:44   #15
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5680
Posted by mascona:
No, it was a freeroll for bored people and he just had enought ...... please don't post a freeroll hands as an example of anything, becouse it's stupid Thumbs Down



8======D

     
  20-Oct-13, 18:02   #16
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noonlion 

Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1277
Interesting experiment...but a losing one which was a little predictable.

But by being one of them you simply opened yourself up to even greater variance in the long run.

God love the Russians - they seem to be the main players at PS, every table has many.

     
  21-Oct-13, 06:19   #17
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sergejcho 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 63 (M)
Posts: 530
Posted by Peter7878:
OMG, what a drama! The first hand of the Sunday Storm Sat: 5+R FPP NLHE [2x-Turbo] tournament and I was out with AA ! Sad That guy won with JJJJ. He is a lucky one.


Afcourse you will not have luck in every hand but do you know , I READ ABOUT THIS ON OTHER SITE ABOUT LOOK THIS SHOVED BULGARIAN player... we shoved him with his best hand in the tournament Smile I thik its ironic to say who you play agianst and NATIONS TE BE METONED!
Play your game , put replay if you want to share but dont call NATION DONK , call player by name.







     
  21-Oct-13, 07:16   #18
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8628
you know the thing that scares me most is that you were showing a very decent profit at one stage- i guess some more sessions with similar play style are necessary to make a weighed statement, but it looks like you can actually record a profit by playing this uber loose way- u just need to get up from the tables when you're in the green

     
  21-Oct-13, 09:12   #19
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sandund 
Joined: Sep '13
Location: Croatia
Age: 34 (F)
Posts: 2
well really ,it is not just about Russians and donk winnings,it is about PS poker software who have nothing in common with " Have fun while challenging your logical thinking skills".Simply,for example;in real life ,a) against any individual random hand, AA will win 85% of the time, b)Against a full table of random hands, AA will win under 30% of the time.c)2-7 off-suit is 12.4% to win the hand and 0.4% to chop.This drops to 10.9% and 0.5% respectively if the suits match those of the pocket aces.d) JT suited was the best vs AA preflop. ....but on PS a) THAT IS NOT THE CASE!!, People just realize that 72 offsuit is going to beat Pocket Aces much more than life regular 11 or 12 percent of the time b)anyone can make any idiot call in any time and get nuts against AA,and that can happened VERY OFTEN! c) Out of position they will bet into a raised pot with what turned out to be 42 off. Normally y'd put it down to your box standard online crazy raiser, but when the flop came down 448 you began to wonder how inspired his reraise really was. d)...on turn and river can also come another 4 and 2 ,very often! Smile

     
  21-Oct-13, 11:16   #20
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Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1022
Posted by sandund:
well really ,it is not just about Russians and donk winnings,it is about PS poker software who have nothing in common with " Have fun while challenging your logical thinking skills".Simply,for example;in real life ,a) against any individual random hand, AA will win 85% of the time, b)Against a full table of random hands, AA will win under 30% of the time.c)2-7 off-suit is 12.4% to win the hand and 0.4% to chop.This drops to 10.9% and 0.5% respectively if the suits match those of the pocket aces.d) JT suited was the best vs AA preflop. ....but on PS a) THAT IS NOT THE CASE!!, People just realize that 72 offsuit is going to beat Pocket Aces much more than life regular 11 or 12 percent of the time b)anyone can make any idiot call in any time and get nuts against AA,and that can happened VERY OFTEN! c) Out of position they will bet into a raised pot with what turned out to be 42 off. Normally y'd put it down to your box standard online crazy raiser, but when the flop came down 448 you began to wonder how inspired his reraise really was. d)...on turn and river can also come another 4 and 2 ,very often! Smile


Yes, you are right! I agree with you! This is actually the truth! Smile

     
  21-Oct-13, 15:24   #21
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mascona 

Joined: Jun '08
Location: Poland
Age: 76 (M)
Posts: 537
Posted by demodawggy:
Posted by mascona:
No, it was a freeroll for bored people and he just had enought ...... please don't post a freeroll hands as an example of anything, becouse it's stupid Thumbs Down



8======D


What's the difference between a Canadian and yogourt ?
At least the yogourt has its own culture. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
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