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I will no longer play freerolls, it's a complete waste of time. Freerolls never were my kind of thing because it's hard to read most players. But hey, it's for free so i played.
If i look at the time i put into these freerolls it's not really a good time investment. You play for more than an hour to loose a hand with Aces against T5o, or with kings against 74. When you make a remark of their calling range they reply "I won the hand so what!".
The time i wasted on playing these freerolls i could have made more money with playing cash games. So bye freerolls
must agree...every now and then will try one...that's just enough of a reminder as to why quitting them is a good thing ...it's basically a luckbox fest and luck evades me playing these.
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well it depends actually...if you're a losing player- then playing freerolls = saving money. add to this that if you play solely freerolls, this makes you a winning player in the long run (since you cannot lose anything, but you do win some from time to time)...that makes freerolls not such a bad alternative in some occasions.
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Freerolls or bingorolls as they should be called have indeed a very low return ( if any in most cases ) to the time you invest in them trying to bink one or at least have a late finish. Still i do play some, specially brm ones coz of the leaderboard. Back in the day i used to really get pissed with the play there.. it's just ridiculous to see those "players" ruining the fun of trying to play poker but after a while i just went numb and quite honestly, unless i manage a decent stack i dont even watch what goes on anymore. Multi-table them with some other tourneys and if you lose with your big hand just close the window and move on...
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I have to agree it is hard to win money in freerolls. And sometimes it is a waste of time. But as pochui said: "playing freerolls = saving money". That is why I play a lot of freeroll, because I want to save money.
But if you play very tight, you can win something. This month I won more than $20 only from freerolls. Well, it's not a lot of money, but it is something quite good to start your bankroll if you don't want to deposit for example.
You can start playing now SNG for example and build your bankroll. Good luck!
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Posted by pochui: well it depends actually...if you're a losing player- then playing freerolls = saving money. add to this that if you play solely freerolls, this makes you a winning player in the long run (since you cannot lose anything, but you do win some from time to time)...that makes freerolls not such a bad alternative in some occasions.
You're right pochui : you cannot lose money in freerolls so it's only +EV. But the amount of money you can win with a freeroll is quit low. So if you're a winning cash player, the time you spend on freerolls is time you cannot play cash games (or less tables) . So in fact you make less money when playing freerolls.
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Ultimately you're never going to become a poker master playing freerolls - in large part due to the other players being as bad or worse thereby teaching you zip as you bust out with $0.01 having raised AI with AA to get called by someone with J8s who hits a flush.
As a beginner people should play them to get a feel for MTT at zero investment.
LT rewards are terrible unless you're in depositor freerolls etc, but if you can afford to deposit why waste your time (although possibly your money). Even if you win these things they tend to give you a miniscule bankroll to the point where you need at least three wins or so to try and make money at SNGs or cash.
Simply a waste of time for anyone who can make money as a poker player on a consistent basis.
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@SuperpokefA - yeah i agree with you that IF you are a winning player in the long run, then hardly any freeroll is gonna offer the same financial rewards as the real money games, still i really advise people to start their rolls with the free money, save up a bit (say 10BI's min) and try to play sng's, fl poker or take some shots at nl...this way once you lose everything you technically still are a breakeven player...well actually you are a winning player due to the humongous rakeback...
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Posted by pochui: @SuperpokefA - yeah i agree with you that IF you are a winning player in the long run, then hardly any freeroll is gonna offer the same financial rewards as the real money games, still i really advise people to start their rolls with the free money, save up a bit (say 10BI's min) and try to play sng's, fl poker or take some shots at nl...this way once you lose everything you technically still are a breakeven player...well actually you are a winning player due to the humongous rakeback...
Well there are freerolls that are interesting to play...
As i mentioned before on some other threads ... the things that makes a freeroll interesting are :
1. price money (the higher the better) 2. number of players (the lower the better) 3. speed of the game, i mean the time you need to play to get ITM (the lower the better)
I play at terminal poker which offers speedpoker freerolls... there are hourly freerolls of 5 euro but more interesting are the daily freeroll of 75 euro and the weekly freeroll of 400 euro.
The player field is low and it takes about 1 hour to get ITM...
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Freeroll are good to rebuild a Little bankroll without a deposit. It is boring to play every hand versus 2-3 manics with crap hands and loose a great hand with a suckout. But it is interesting to handle this kind of the game against the all in manics.
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Depends on the freerolls. There are the ones that are a waste of time indeed, but others which are not common lately can fetch you a good pay out. Like the latest promo in Full Tilt with Blom. There are some other requirements bit you can classify it as a freerol.
Posted by SuperpokefA: I will no longer play freerolls, it's a complete waste of time. Freerolls never were my kind of thing because it's hard to read most players. But hey, it's for free so i played.
If i look at the time i put into these freerolls it's not really a good time investment. You play for more than an hour to loose a hand with Aces against T5o, or with kings against 74. When you make a remark of their calling range they reply "I won the hand so what!".
The time i wasted on playing these freerolls i could have made more money with playing cash games. So bye freerolls
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Posted by Phisix: Indeed, but playing freerolls can be a nice distraction from cash players too, especially when you have nothing to lose.
I aggre with you , and i want to say , that u have very nice freerolls on many platforms because if you have for a example Chromestar at pokerstars i think that you will like to play freerolls or maybe platinum star and you gonna crazy )) come on nobody want to play freerolls but EPTLive Tournament for 1500$ was full with 30k players
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Posted by sergejcho:
Posted by Phisix: Indeed, but playing freerolls can be a nice distraction from cash players too, especially when you have nothing to lose.
I aggre with you , and i want to say , that u have very nice freerolls on many platforms because if you have for a example Chromestar at pokerstars i think that you will like to play freerolls or maybe platinum star and you gonna crazy )) come on nobody want to play freerolls but EPTLive Tournament for 1500$ was full with 30k players
Exactly, and with some sites the higher you rank up the better the freerolls are, like 888, every rank up you do you get a bigger prized freeroll.
...it's basically a luckbox fest and luck evades me playing these.
