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  27-Oct-13, 23:48   #1
The 5 Worst hands +1 
matiih17 

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Thanks to the explosion of poker on television and online , almost all the players know that the worst starting hand in Texas Holdem is offsuit 7-2 ( offsuit ) . Unless you are in a game with a side bet on the 7-2 , you should discard this hand every time you touch . But after the 7-2, what other hands are so bad that almost never deserve to be played ? Here is a list of the five worst Hold'em hands , statistically speaking .

1) 7-2 offsuit : As we said before, is the worst of the worst . You can make a straight with two cards, and if you achieve to mate with one of them you may not have the best hand at the table .

2 ) 8-2 offsuit : This hand has the same problems 7-2. No chance of stairs and a couple of 8 is not much better than a pair of 7 . If a figure appears on the table , cooked.

3 ) 8-3 offsuit : If you can find a reason why 8-3 is better than 8-2 , you are welcome in home games . Again, there is no possibility of forming ladder and connect a pair of no value .

4) 7-3 offsuit : Numbers 8-3 and 7-3 are almost identical , are bad . But with 7-3 could actually put together a 4-5-6 staircase on the table , so yes , you will lose everything if another player is 7-8 .

5 ) 6-2 offsuit :The cousin slightly better than 7-3 ! Just a little better because the odds (odds ) fall just on their behalf. Like 7-3 can comformar a ladder if it favors the table with 3-4-5 . Also as with 7-3 will be crying if another player is 6-7 .

     
  28-Oct-13, 07:13   #2
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shokaku 

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I guess something like 52o or 42o is even worse for most players. Yes, chances of making a straight are slightly higher, but getting value then is the point.

     
  28-Oct-13, 09:44   #3
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IceQueenAce 
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AJ is by far my worst hand, that I lose most with according to pokertracker

     
  28-Oct-13, 09:48   #4
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shokaku 

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AJ and AT are hands that look quite good, but if the pot gets bigger the kicker can be a problem, if one has only hit the A. Don't overplay those hands

     
  28-Oct-13, 15:04   #5
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thefly131 
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Posted by shokaku:
AJ and AT are hands that look quite good, but if the pot gets bigger the kicker can be a problem, if one has only hit the A. Don't overplay those hands


Indead hands like AJs or A10s are costly when you get into bigger pots...

lot of players can t fold with these hands when they face a 3-bet...

Same is when you have AK and don t hit on the flop....you can c-bet but if you are called you re mostly behind...

     
  28-Oct-13, 19:09   #6
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Macubaas 
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You cannot beat the first 5 hands OP posted for sure but there are hands that look pretty strong to be weak especially in multi-way pot situations.

Unfortunately one of them is At too, it could be a bit better if suited but it seems that for straight you better have a middle card too and not the first and the last.

     
  28-Oct-13, 19:15   #7
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Phisix 

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Posted by Macubaas:
You cannot beat the first 5 hands OP posted for sure but there are hands that look pretty strong to be weak especially in multi-way pot situations.

Unfortunately one of them is At too, it could be a bit better if suited but it seems that for straight you better have a middle card too and not the first and the last.


I never played A10 now in early and sometimes middle positions unless they are suited. Same can be said for AJ too. Danger hands from those positions.

     
  28-Oct-13, 19:20   #8
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Peter7878 

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My worst hands are AJ, AQ. Most of the time I fold it when I play at PokerStars. I have more chances with A2 or A4! Big Smile

     
  28-Oct-13, 22:22   #9
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takingdrugs 

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For the record 72o is one of the best hands to get in poker as far as I am concerned.
You know exactly what to do with it and only an idiot is going to lose a lot of chips with that hand.
The worst 5 hands to get in my opinion are
Rag aces
K9 (someone always gets the bigger straight when the chips go in)
AT - AJ as some people have stated
TT mabee JJ (hate JJ when I'm in the money)
Low pockets

These are the hands that can cost you a lot of money

     
  28-Oct-13, 22:30   #10
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Phisix 

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A rag is the weapon of choice in MTT's though and they always seem to work for the fish.

     
  28-Oct-13, 22:34   #11
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takingdrugs 

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Posted by Phisix:
A rag is the weapon of choice in MTT's though and they always seem to work for the fish.

Only in freerolls

     
  28-Oct-13, 22:48   #12
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Phisix 

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Not always. Not from the decent or half decent players anyway.

     
  28-Oct-13, 23:33   #13
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HenryMinute 

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I read somewhere that A,Q off is the losingest hand in Hold 'em.

I'm quite prepared to believe it since whenever I get it someone else is pretty much guaranteed to have AA or AK.

     
  28-Oct-13, 23:51   #14
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Phisix 

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Really? I lost my AK vs someones AQ earlier. He hit two Q's.

     
  29-Oct-13, 00:34   #15
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victoryv111 

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If your well ahead in stack-size usaully top 3 at your table aand running good, you can take a FEW GAMBLE CALLS / shots, with the above mentioned worse hands but not against larger stacks.

This is advanced poker play not a donk play, it is pre-planned for when to execute, usually after a big stacker as won, and folded so no threat attack or major loss in ur stack-size if u fold.

Anyways against standard poker players you only play them as follows; rem u must have a read on playersbefore attemting this play regardless of your stack-size:
1, to see a cheap flop / 2. to trap if they hit and 3. from a unraised pot and less than 4 players to see flop,.mostly in late position tho..otherwise fold fold fold.

(t can also be played against a BIG stack if you have a mental read on the playerand s/he plays tight .this is a PRESSURE BETTING - TRAP OR CAN BE DOUBLE/REVERSE -BLUFF MOVE..but thats another story)

i am wary of any broadway card with a JACK, they can get you into trouble to often, so watch for that, but nice when Jacks paybak.with a set mind or hit ur str8 as a key card..

i believe for many of the poker- pros inc Doyle AQ top hands are a usaully folded down against strong resistant raise play..saying that AQ was thehand that eliminated Phil Iveys AK vs AQ of Darvin Moon WSOP FINAL TABLE..ouch!!!

gg@da-tables Thumbs Up Smile Diamond

     
  29-Oct-13, 11:23   #16
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HenryMinute 

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Posted by Phisix:
Really? I lost my AK vs someones AQ earlier. He hit two Q's.

Luck be a lady tonight
Luck be a lady tonight
Luck if youve been a lady to begin with
Luck be a lady tonight - Frank Loesser

     
  30-Oct-13, 02:33   #17
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TheMachineQC 

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I agree with shokaku, statistics don't prove that they are really the worst hands. Hands like 2-3, 2-4, 2-5 may have a higher straight probability but you have to hit it on the flop or chase a gutshot. And unlike 8-3, you can't hit top pair with 2-4... So these hands are definetly worse in a heads up situation.

Anyways, to me all hands in that range are garbage, but any hand is playable in the right situation, since hold'em is all about position, timing, agression and table image.

     
  30-Oct-13, 04:05   #18
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victoryv111 

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Actually statistics do prove they are the worse hand, the reason being is so basic really...
we all know theres 4 x Aces 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 J Q K..

My reasoning is every card over 8 is a key factor.. basically baesd on it's individual strength, higher value on a scale of 13 cards, so each card up the scale as a greater edge its a slight % +edge and that miniscule +iedge is a +% that gets greater and increases over a longer period and thus eliminates a -% of the original 4 card +equa;ity

This is based on the -/+ equality of the x 4 value percentage equality values...the key factor being 1pr and 2 pr are the MOST common wining hands in texas hold'em on the long run..so high value cards are +edge & +% based winners...SAYING ALL THAT 2 weeks ago i hit 3 x AA in same tournee was deep stacked but cracked each time, but i still follow the golden rule, you have to.play smart. ABC pokerat times as best you can.

i might have repeated myself thinking this out and typing, but i hope that makes some sort of sense, if anyone can simplify it better id love to know,

but its how i see it and this is why you have to fold fold fold bad hands more often and take less risks to keep value of chips-stack for when u HIT to win the BIG POTS & THUS THE BIG CASHES$$$...on the long run only, wasting chip-stacks are a bad play by many,who think they play correct but they don't. and position as to be factored in at all times every hand..

Poker play is not based on a few hands,and getting lucky as we all should know, but many players do know and still take bad risks =bad play and hence blow their stacks unecessarly.

Bad play follows bad play = bad habits , equals moaners and groaners, i dont mind if i lose with best hand as much as i use to, as i know i played correct for the long journey, it's nice to mix up your play, but when done with know pre-meditative plan, your donking and fish playing. even if you win that hand..

so statisticly strong cards will always have the edge and win more often..

i feel like i'm trip-talkin lol gg all
Smile Diamond

Edited by victoryv111 (Wednesday, October 30, 2013 @ 04:21 GMT)


     
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