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  9-Nov-13, 20:32   #1
Justification? 0 
grahamy27 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
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i don't understand how some people can justify their play, i play freerolls the same way as i play proper tourneys.. i know a lot of people crack up with bad play(me being one of these people) but i would love to know what goes on in peoples heads whilst they are playing poker Confused Confused

i have come up against a lot of players in BI games who play the same as some people do in freerolls, in my opinion if you are going to put your time and effort into playing a game whether it be a freeroll or a buyin game you may as well play your A game..some people complain about russians, but players from various parts of the world play terrible, reason it seems as if it is Russians all the time is probably due to the size of their country and there are probably more of them online. Agree

back to the point though how can people justify calling off all their stack with terrible cards i have the following example to show what i mean, i don't think i played it wrong in any way,

PokerStars Hand #106761626803: Tournament #807505109, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2013/11/09 20:07:55 WET [2013/11/09 15:07:55 ET]
Table '807505109 914' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Vie4a (1214 in chips)
Seat 2: deano40118 (1022 in chips)
Seat 3: etestyk (3634 in chips)
Seat 4: Helio Vegas (1268 in chips)
Seat 5: bezerdicova1 (1142 in chips)
Seat 6: duuurrrmonty (1200 in chips)
Seat 7: JoniBlanD007 (3520 in chips)
Seat 8: A2345maybe (2278 in chips)
Seat 9: sergen60 (1538 in chips) is sitting out
Vie4a: posts the ante 4
deano40118: posts the ante 4
etestyk: posts the ante 4
Helio Vegas: posts the ante 4
bezerdicova1: posts the ante 4
duuurrrmonty: posts the ante 4
JoniBlanD007: posts the ante 4
A2345maybe: posts the ante 4
sergen60: posts the ante 4
sergen60: posts small blind 10
Vie4a: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to A2345maybe [As Qs]
deano40118: folds
etestyk: folds
Helio Vegas: calls 20
bezerdicova1: folds
duuurrrmonty: raises 20 to 40
JoniBlanD007: folds
A2345maybe: raises 200 to 240
sergen60: folds
Vie4a: folds
Helio Vegas: folds
duuurrrmonty: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Jd 7d Qh]
duuurrrmonty: bets 956 and is all-in
A2345maybe: calls 956
*** TURN *** [Jd 7d Qh] 7 of spades
*** RIVER *** [Jd 7d Qh 7s] Jack of hearts
*** SHOW DOWN ***
duuurrrmonty: shows [4c 7c] (a full house, Sevens full of Jacks)
A2345maybe: shows [As Qs] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
duuurrrmonty collected 2478 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2478 | Rake 0
Board [Jd 7d Qh 7s Jh]
Seat 1: Vie4a (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: deano40118 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: etestyk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Helio Vegas folded before Flop
Seat 5: bezerdicova1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: duuurrrmonty showed [4c 7c] and won (2478) with a full house, Sevens full of Jacks
Seat 7: JoniBlanD007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: A2345maybe (button) showed [As Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 9: sergen60 (small blind) folded before Flop


in this position i would have folded preflop, although they do say any 2 cards can win and this theory has been proven correct, but over all it isn't going to pay off and if you want to be making any form of money you are obviously going to have to do some studying and learn the game a bit better.

I can justify my play, but how can he? and in theory how can anyone justify their play, especially when calling along to river with A high which happens a lot.

How do you justify your play? Thumbs Up

     
  9-Nov-13, 20:51   #2
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
I think you must be mad if you try to find out a logical reason for his play, he is just a donk and thats it.

I think this type of play is very common to freerolls or micro stakes on big sites like stars or ftp unfortunately...

     
  9-Nov-13, 22:01   #3
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grahamy27 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 707
Posted by Macubaas:
I think you must be mad if you try to find out a logical reason for his play, he is just a donk and thats it.

I think this type of play is very common to freerolls or micro stakes on big sites like stars or ftp unfortunately...



hi Smile , i play $100 HU as well and the play is the same, but i would just like to know how people can justify their play when calling to hit Big Smile

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i couldn't justify playing this preflop but pretty sick afterwards..lol..as it is a knockout tourney..lol Sad Sad Aww crap!

PokerStars Hand #106769990924: Tournament #811030920, $5.00+$5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (50/100) - 2013/11/09 22:48:30 WET [2013/11/09 17:48:30 ET]
Table '811030920 120' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: sosold (16629 in chips)
Seat 2: A2345maybe (7795 in chips)
Seat 3: Tdot789 (3112 in chips)
Seat 4: kutuzzz1708 (6730 in chips)
Seat 5: vladulaNko (9637 in chips)
Seat 6: Massey35 (3625 in chips)
Seat 7: Ribo_01 (4470 in chips)
Seat 8: runfish (1770 in chips)
Seat 9: lukro8 (5525 in chips)
sosold: posts the ante 10
A2345maybe: posts the ante 10
Tdot789: posts the ante 10
kutuzzz1708: posts the ante 10
vladulaNko: posts the ante 10
Massey35: posts the ante 10
Ribo_01: posts the ante 10
runfish: posts the ante 10
lukro8: posts the ante 10
Ribo_01: posts small blind 50
runfish: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to A2345maybe [3c 4d]
lukro8: folds
sosold: raises 100 to 200
A2345maybe: folds
Tdot789: calls 200
kutuzzz1708: folds
vladulaNko: calls 200
Massey35: folds
Ribo_01: folds
runfish: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 3s 3h]
sosold: checks
Tdot789: checks
vladulaNko: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 3s 3h] 4 of hearts
sosold: checks
Tdot789: checks
vladulaNko: checks
*** RIVER *** [4s 3s 3h 4h] Jack of clubs
sosold: bets 300
Tdot789: folds
vladulaNko: folds
Uncalled bet (300) returned to sosold
sosold collected 840 from pot
sosold: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 840 | Rake 0
Board [4s 3s 3h 4h Jc]
Seat 1: sosold collected (840)
Seat 2: A2345maybe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Tdot789 folded on the River
Seat 4: kutuzzz1708 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: vladulaNko folded on the River
Seat 6: Massey35 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Ribo_01 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: runfish (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: lukro8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Edited by grahamy27 (Saturday, November 09, 2013 @ 22:52 GMT)


     
  10-Nov-13, 09:51   #4
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 5537
to try and understand the logic of some players is a waste of time. they call with nothing and when you question how they can call, the same answer comes all the time 'its a freeroll man'. really winds me up as well, should play a freeroll the same as any other game Angry

     
  10-Nov-13, 15:21   #5
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Emmenaar89 

Joined: May '11
Location: Netherlands
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 140
Freerolls... Its so hard to win a freeroll these days. Youll face up so many fishers one day youll be catched Tongue I wish you more luck next time and maybe see you at the poker tables, cheers mate! Spade Club Heart Diamond

     
  10-Nov-13, 15:48   #6
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DaCapo71 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 1707
A lot of Players in freerolls are "playing" with Frustration and without a plan. He goes all in every Hand and try to double up at the beginning. And if they loose, they try the next one.

     
  10-Nov-13, 18:52   #7
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grahamy27 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 707
Posted by Emmenaar89:
Freerolls... Its so hard to win a freeroll these days. Youll face up so many fishers one day youll be catched Tongue I wish you more luck next time and maybe see you at the poker tables, cheers mate! Spade Club Heart Diamond



i can win and have won at quite a lot of freerolls, but i play them the exact same way as i play a $100 BI, but i just want to try and understand why all of us actually make calls that we do and why some of us play as bad as we do

     
  11-Nov-13, 02:50   #8
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5680
Posted by grahamy27:
i don't understand how some people can justify their play, i play freerolls the same way as i play proper tourneys.. i know a lot of people crack up with bad play(me being one of these people) but i would love to know what goes on in peoples heads whilst they are playing poker Confused Confused


How do you justify your play? Thumbs Up



Hey grahamy,.....I agree about playing 'some' freerolls just like you would in buy in games...

'Some' being ones where leaderboards are concerned,...or decent money prizes,....like the 100Ks and the EPTLives....etc....

When it comes to Hubbles and the like,...I just shove until I lose because they have 9000 entrants,.....are chock full of multiple accounts,....and they all play like assholes anyway...

Justification for the way them idiots play....? ......NONE,....they can't 'justify' it...because they have $H!T for brains.... Sleepy

     
  11-Nov-13, 19:52   #9
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grahamy27 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 707
LOL Thumbs Up Thumbs Up brilliant reply Thumbs Up Big Smile

     
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