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  20-Nov-13, 21:39   #1
folding quads 0 
Joined: Dec '11
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how sick is this?? folded pocket pair against a multi way allin...definitely the wrong move Sad Sad Sad Sad

PokerStars Hand #107328615977: Tournament #809540472, $0.91+$0.09 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (300/600) - 2013/11/20 21:36:14 WET [2013/11/20 16:36:14 ET]
Table '809540472 119' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Anarhie (16633 in chips)
Seat 2: M.Mikrut (9049 in chips)
Seat 3: Renatto888 (15702 in chips)
Seat 4: S. Nicolas V (29123 in chips)
Seat 5: Legion300861 (22460 in chips)
Seat 6: A2345maybe (8686 in chips)
Seat 7: ruready565 (24931 in chips)
Seat 8: kjh56 (4280 in chips)
Seat 9: del1244 (21490 in chips)
Anarhie: posts the ante 60
M.Mikrut: posts the ante 60
Renatto888: posts the ante 60
S. Nicolas V: posts the ante 60
Legion300861: posts the ante 60
A2345maybe: posts the ante 60
ruready565: posts the ante 60
kjh56: posts the ante 60
del1244: posts the ante 60
A2345maybe: posts small blind 300
ruready565: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to A2345maybe [3c 3h]
kjh56: calls 600
del1244: calls 600
Anarhie: folds
M.Mikrut: raises 8389 to 8989 and is all-in
Renatto888: folds
S. Nicolas V: folds
Legion300861: folds
A2345maybe: folds
ruready565: folds
kjh56: calls 3620 and is all-in
del1244: calls 8389
*** FLOP *** [Td 3s Jh]
*** TURN *** [Td 3s Jh] 3 of diamonds
*** RIVER *** [Td 3s Jh 3d] Queen of diamonds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
del1244: shows [Ah Ts] (two pair, Tens and Threes)
M.Mikrut: shows [Qh Qc] (a full house, Queens full of Threes)
M.Mikrut collected 9538 from side pot
kjh56: shows [As 2c] (a pair of Threes)
M.Mikrut collected 14100 from main pot
kjh56 re-buys and receives 3000 chips for $0.91
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 23638 Main pot 14100. Side pot 9538. | Rake 0
Board [Td 3s Jh 3d Qd]
Seat 1: Anarhie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: M.Mikrut showed [Qh Qc] and won (23638) with a full house, Queens full of Threes
Seat 3: Renatto888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: S. Nicolas V folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Legion300861 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: A2345maybe (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: ruready565 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: kjh56 showed [As 2c] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 9: del1244 showed [Ah Ts] and lost with two pair, Tens and Threes

  20-Nov-13, 22:15   #2

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It happens but calling with 3's mostly go against you. I would have folded too, especially in a multi way.

  20-Nov-13, 23:04   #3
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You did good thing for folding... It was multi way and you could easily lose...

Mostly the time you would lose with 3 3

This time table cards got you quads, but mostly the time someone would hit better pair.

This happens sometime, next time you will have more luck and you will be in hand with quads...


  21-Nov-13, 06:27   #4
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It happens from time to time, here were quads but you also miss full house and other top hands.

Grahamy, use boom player from now on when you want to post up some hands, it's easier plus it's more fun to watch too Blink

  21-Nov-13, 10:49   #5
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Well that happens but you made a good fold .... low pocket pairs in multway pots

Those hands are playable when you can see teh flop cheap ---> and hope to hit a set

Even in a HU it could be playable versus a low stack when your on the BB , as you have to put less than 50 % of the pot to get more than 50% chances versus 2 overcards.

SO in this case ... good fold

  21-Nov-13, 15:05   #6
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To call multi all ins with pocket 3's is very thin indeed. You only call with his type of hand when you are very very deep with a massive chip lead or you are short stacked and are being blinded out

  21-Nov-13, 17:00   #7
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Hmm for me in a mutiway pot I will go all the way for it. I'll be ready to stack off, you will still have outs to get the required best hand.

Folding is also a good option if you have the weaker sets, that is why it is not viable to play 33 from EP if you are not willing to stack off when you hit the set. Because most of the time the flop will contain higher cards than the 3, 4,5,A etc.

So better off not calling if you not stacking off!

  21-Nov-13, 18:36   #8
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You can never know what is gonna be dealt , so to be honest when i play tournaments on the start of the tour i can play this hand , but i often fold this have before the bubble and in it , maybe sometimes if someone go all in just for shove him.

  21-Nov-13, 20:00   #9
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I would have folded there also. I dont belong to that specific amount of people
going and calling an all in, with whatever pocket pairs they hold, at any time of the
If my stack was crashed, then yes Smile

  21-Nov-13, 20:15   #10

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Ouch!!! YA dude.... That's how quads have a tendency to sneak right up behind you when you didn't expect it,....and let's face it... Who could have known....!!!???? Smile Thumbs Up

I'd have folded the pair also,....seems to be the theme...more or less... Confused Thumbs Up

  21-Nov-13, 20:32   #11

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Location: Canada
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Saw a similar hand in a traininig video some time ago ( only in a cash game). The instructor was oop with 77...there was a raise, re raise, and shove ahead of him. He said the correct play is a fold here.
Lo and behold he hit quads on the turn. This is what he said...although he would have won a monster pot...the correct play there was a fold and this hand was a perfect example of how not be results orientated...it's more important to know one made the correct play for the long term. You did exactly that...good on ya Smile

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