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If this was PokerStars, I would say 95% for 78 and 5% for AA to win. And to be honest if I play at PokerStars and if I have the opportunity to chose between these two hands, difinately I would choose 78.
I had too many PokerStars AA bad beats. This is just a simple trick, to get AA and to be out of the tournaments very soon.
I never played Switch Poker, but probably it's the same. I would say that the guy with 78 will have a straight or straight flush and will win the hand.
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Posted by Peter7878:
I never played Switch Poker, but probably it's the same. I would say that the guy with 78 will have a straight or straight flush and will win the hand.
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Odds and Outs, stacksize Position and "feeling" are another important components for a move. And in the higher levels it was interesting to have a tracking software. So the Outs are not the only important part of the game...
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In future i will prob just slowplay them,i just dread to look down n see AA.
Implied odds by this you mean the caller holding 67 off recons he has a 50/50 chance of winning as only 2 of us were in the hand.. bad beats are a dime a dozen. I had one run where I had AA cracked 33 of 40 times over 3 weeks of play by hands like 6-7s, 8-2o, J-8o etc. It's just the nature of the game but over the long run AA is going to win 85% of the time against one other player.
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Posted by mirexxx:
In future i will prob just slowplay them,i just dread to look down n see AA.
Implied odds by this you mean the caller holding 67 off recons he has a 50/50 chance of winning as only 2 of us were in the hand.. bad beats are a dime a dozen. I had one run where I had AA cracked 33 of 40 times over 3 weeks of play by hands like 6-7s, 8-2o, J-8o etc. It's just the nature of the game but over the long run AA is going to win 85% of the time against one other player.
I actually dread AA these days as they never seem to hold up unless the board is dry. That and thinking they will win even if I am beat or behind. I saw AA get cracked by someone going all in with K2o last night so anythings possible.
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I would think you are about right. This is the best sort of hand to try and crack aces and i have seen it hold up on many occasions. At the end of the day Pocket Aces is only 1 pair post flop and you nearly always need a bit of help for it to hold up
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99% for 7 8 to win... I know that from experience.
Just played a tourney. Got pocket aces, hit ace at table and with river he got str8.
And it was close to bubble, couldnt fold at all. And with three of aces if i won that pot I could play way longer then bubble. Ah well only 1 chance left tomorrow for tourney.
Without seeing the flop the odd's of AA winning are a clear 99% favourite, even though everyone in this forum believes that it's in favour of the 78 suited.
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The true odds for these starting hands, as identified by Zeroster, are 22.87% (22.9% to make it easier).
The fact that everyone's recollection of losing AA against a suited pair does not alter these odds (no matter how much you convince yourselves otherwise).
What you need to remember is that this makes it only a 1 in 4 chance of the suited pair winning. Or put another way, the AA will win 3 out of every 4 hands. Which is nowhere near your suggested odds or probability of always.
What you will probably find is that you only recall the big wins 78s v AA or big losses that you experience.
The reality of it is it is and always will be 22.9% which means your AA will sometimes lose when it goes to showdown.
