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You can use the paysafecard to deposit money only. When there comes the time for a cashout this option is useless. So this is no help to solve the problem at hand.
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I got this email from NETELLER on August 11, 2016, at 3:00 AM JST.
As of 10:00 PM JST on Thursday August 11 2016, you will no longer be able to use your Net+ Card. We are working on making the Net+ Card service available again in the future and hope to provide further notification in due course. Your funds will be unaffected by this change. You may still send money to any other NETELLER user or online business accepting NETELLER or withdraw funds from your NETELLER account to your bank account. We will keep you informed about the next steps via emails, on our website and via our FAQ pages. Thank you for your patience and kind cooperation during this process. If you do have any questions, please contact us.
Yours sincerely, The NETELLER Team
Another one on August 16, 2016.
We regret to inform you that NETELLER will no longer be able to provide payment processing services for gambling purposes in your country from the 15th September 2016. As of this date, you will therefore no longer be able to send payments to or receive payments from gambling operators via NETELLER. We understand that this may be a disappointing development for you and apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. Please get in contact with us should you need further information.
Best regards, The NETELLER Team
Well, I didn't see these coming, but luckily I still got some time to get my sh*t together.
Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (18 August 2016 @ 16:14 GMT)
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New gambling laws that we are not aware of and they did that change? They have lost a good share so far from the market.
But now they are one with skrill. If skrill keeps operating in your country and its not gambling laws, that drove them to this decision then it might be something internal, wanting to promote it more, for their best interest.
Posted by Mober: But now they are one with skrill.
Not really. They never merged, they just have the same parent corporation. Like back a year or two ago when Amazon bought out bookdepository. Both of them are still operating on their preferable markets but under a different 'flag'. They just have the same parent corporation. If one company cannot improve their marketshare significantly during many business quarters sometimes they just straight up buying out their rival(s).
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You guys scared the bjesus out of me, soon as i saw the post i rushed to my email to see if i got any email from my netteler if this change had any effect on me, but luckly it didnt, all i had from neteller is a mail about new fees, i would have been pissed about higher fees, but compared to what u guys face now with the changes in canada, i am more then happy to pay the new fees, i made an acc. on neteller coz my bank acc. was frozen, so i needed a wayaround that, and i got it with neteller, so thank you universe for keeping my country out of this mess, but i fear it would be short lived, then again i hope not.
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Just to be clear, NETELLER has been providing limited service to Canada, Hong Kong, Israel, Macao, Singapore and Turkey for many years. Rumors are that on or after the 15th of September, 2016, Japan and some other countries will likely be added to the above-mentioned group of countries. The problem is that if you reside in one of these countries, you can open and hold a NETELLER account, but you will not be able to transact with any gambling-related merchant. You might also have restricted deposit, withdrawal, and money transfer options.
Posted by Tony_MON7ANA: Just to be clear, NETELLER has been providing limited service to Canada, Hong Kong, Israel, Macao, Singapore and Turkey for many years.
One could wonder what Hong Kong, Macao and Singapore having in common to earn their restricted status besides all three is heavily involved in various asian-influenced gambling activity.
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And what is the way to get back some of the money you will lose, after exiting these markets? Raising the fees in all the rest of course. Got an email saying about the changes taking effect on October, with some ridiculous fees, even an inactivity fee. Sending money is 1.9% with a cap of 20 ??? Was it like last year, or 2 years ago, that it had a cap of 1 ?
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Skrill and Neteller are owned by the same parent company now. So they have no real competition left, and can charge fees like they see fit, as there is no alternative. A bit like Amaya`s grip on the online poker business
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I also received an email from Skrill and NETELLER stating that on the 17th of October both Skrill and NETELLER will increase their peer-to-peer (p2p) transfer fees, their currency conversion fees (FX fees) and the fees for sending money from Skrill to NETELLER and the other way around.
Here is a summary of changes.
Skrill: • The p2p fee for non-VIPs will be increased from 1% (CAP: €10) to 1.9% (CAP: €20). • For VIPs the p2p fee will remain at only 1%, while it will be capped for Bornze at €10 and at €2 for all Silver, Gold and Diamond VIPs. • The FX fee or non-VIPs will be increased from 2.99% to 3.99%.
NETELLER: • The p2p fee for non-VIPs will also be increased from 1% (CAP: $10) to 1.9% (CAP: $20). • When holding VIP status it will be only 1% for all levels with a CAP of $10 for Bronze & Silver and a CAP of $2 for Gold, Platinum and Diamond. • The FX fee for non-VIPs will be increased from 3.39% to 3.99%.
The fee for sending money between your Skrill & NETELLER account is 1.9% (No CAP) at the moment. It will be increased to 3% on the 17th of October, 2016.
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You cant say there is no competition, in this section. At least to a certain degree. And that doesnt mean also, that if that was the case, you will start to suck dry your customers. You can choose to stay or not of course. But in some occasions they are the only available.
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"If you do not use your NETELLER Account for 14 months and retain a balance in your account, you will be charged an administrative fee of up to US$30 on the available balance. You will be notified of this one month in advance by email. This fee will be charged annually up to three times if you do not use your account. After 38 consecutive months of inactivity, we will apply your third and final inactivity administration fee, after which we will close your account, terminate your agreement with us and cancel your card."
NETELLER will never cause your account to go into a negative balance. If you use your account prior to the 15th of the upcoming month the fee will not be charged. If you have less than US$30 or equivalent remaining in your NETELLER Account, we will only charge you the amount you have left, leaving your account with no balance remaining. We will never charge an inactivity fee to your credit card or bank account."
I would empty my account if I sniff something fishy. By doing so I can also avoid a risk of getting charged up to US$90 in a 38-month period in case the funds get frozen or become inaccessible.
Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (23 August 2016 @ 17:53 GMT)
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If you have an e wallet account inactive for that long, like 3 years they are saying here, is there a reason to be loaded with money? This occasions must be rare to none. I hope the the one month notice is not like some poker rooms, in which when you get the notice, they have already taken the money from your account.
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Paysafe group more than doubled revenues and EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization) in first half of 2016. Adjusted H1 (first half) 2016 EBITDA increased 189% to $144 million (H1 2015: $50 million), clearly reflecting the acquisition of Skrill and accelerating profitability.
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Hello. Let me comment because I was interested. This problem began at last in Japan. One month passes soon.
Ten several years passed after I made Neteller account. But I made Skrill account in July. Because I finished money transfer in Netteller, most depositing didn't feel the need to make Skrill account. Now it became Maine to use any place other than a casino(=poker).
I am accomplished at another 400 mob points for a point to 5000. The remittances from Neteller to the casino site became impossible, I made party poker account this month. (Probably I think that I spend mob points for party poker.)
I received an email to recommend entropay from some casino sites. I have not yet made entropay account, but think whether it is need within this year.Content might be slightly different, but I thought whether there was any discovery and commented.
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Hey, parakon. Welcome to the BankrollMob forum. I heard there is a possibility that Skrill will also impose restrictions on the Japanese market soon. I see you are planning to cashout your MobPoints to PartyPoker. Good luck at the table.
Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (11 October 2016 @ 12:24 GMT)
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no you do not have to edit each postEdited by Tony_MON7ANA (Thursday, August 18, 2016 @ 16:14 GMT)Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Tuesday, August 23, 2016 @ 17:53 GMT)Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Tuesday, October 11, 2016 @ 12:24 GMT) do not be silly, what you're saying is funny you can have 3.7 million posts but honorable is to admit you're making to edit posts, and you still are creating a problem without the need
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Then why did you attack me that you do not edit on your posts I can not understand you I just wrote that I understand how you made 5 post in one minute because you have ready answers What's wrong in my words
