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when u say woooot at river
Full Tilt Poker Game #33729252642: $1 + $0.10 Multi-Rush OD (263159728), Table 8 - NL Hold'em - 60/120 Ante 15 - 14:26:47 CET - 2014/01/06 [08:26:47 ET - 2014/01/06] Seats: 9 Seat 1: corrie1984 (2,585) Seat 2: Jasio222 (1,915) Seat 3: vsemoje (6,460) Seat 4: gumbwol (2,762) Seat 5: A1A2A (5,900) Seat 6: bwati (734) Seat 7: jufiti (3,530) Seat 8: Darrell1969 (3,785) Seat 9: shaharon (2,630) corrie1984 antes 15 Jasio222 antes 15 vsemoje antes 15 gumbwol antes 15 A1A2A antes 15 bwati antes 15 jufiti antes 15 Darrell1969 antes 15 shaharon antes 15 Jasio222 posts the small blind of 60 vsemoje posts the big blind of 120 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to vsemoje [9h 9d] gumbwol raises to 240 A1A2A calls 240 bwati raises to 719, and is all in jufiti folds Darrell1969 folds shaharon folds corrie1984 folds Jasio222 folds vsemoje calls 599 gumbwol calls 479 A1A2A calls 479 *** FLOP *** [Js 9c 4d] (Total Pot: 3,071, 4 Players, 1 All-In) vsemoje checks gumbwol checks A1A2A bets 240 vsemoje has 15 seconds left to act vsemoje raises to 960 gumbwol has 15 seconds left to act gumbwol has timed out gumbwol folds A1A2A calls 720 *** TURN *** [Js 9c 4d] (Total Pot: 4,991, 3 Players, 1 All-In) vsemoje bets 1,680 A1A2A calls 1,680 *** RIVER *** [Js 9c 4d Tc] (Total Pot: 8,351, 3 Players, 1 All-In) vsemoje has 15 seconds left to act vsemoje bets 3,086, and is all in A1A2A calls 2,526, and is all in Uncalled bet of 560 returned to vsemoje *** SHOW DOWN *** vsemoje shows [9h 9d] three of a kind, Nines A1A2A mucks vsemoje wins the side pot (10,332) with three of a kind, Nines bwati mucks vsemoje wins the main pot (3,071) with three of a kind, Nines *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 13,403 Main pot 3,071. Side pot 10,332. | Rake 0 Board: [Js 9c 4d Tc 2d] Seat 1: corrie1984 (button) folded before the Flop Seat 2: Jasio222 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: vsemoje (big blind) showed [9h 9d] and won (13,403) with three of a kind, Nines Seat 4: gumbwol folded on the Flop Seat 5: A1A2A mucked [Kc Th] - a pair of Tens Seat 6: bwati mucked [Kd 7h] - King Jack high Seat 7: jufiti folded before the Flop Seat 8: Darrell1969 folded before the Flop Seat 9: shaharon folded before the Flop
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Unbelievable hands and sometimes i thought the opponents did a misclick or be drunkin. Or they thinking, they have enough outs Or they play like Obrestad, but only every times from preflop to the river card without a look into their cards...
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I have no clue what the A villain had in mind on this hand, i mean he should have realized that his hand was beaten there...
And considering the fact that it did not look like a misclick he probaby was multi-tabling and thought he had str8!? Of course the Obrestad possibility is another option
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i think guys are just that bad i see tons of calling of with second pairs and stuff. on micro stakes players call way too light , thats why u must play ABC game. just valuetown everybody and u should make profit
------------ do u think this is missclick again? guys are really that bad... Full Tilt Poker Game #33733118740: $1 + $0.10 Multi-Rush OD (263193902), Table 20 - NL Hold'em - 60/120 Ante 15 - 11:45:00 CET - 2014/01/07 [05:45:00 ET - 2014/01/07] Seats: 9 Seat 1: FAISKATA (4,153) Seat 2: Furom13 (2,515) Seat 3: vsemoje (7,255) Seat 4: laurentiu709 (2,850) Seat 5: gilpastor (3,573) Seat 6: damdam123 (10,147) Seat 7: Drednoter (3,095) Seat 8: Partizan9439 (5,470) Seat 9: bus3992 (12,975) FAISKATA antes 15 Furom13 antes 15 vsemoje antes 15 laurentiu709 antes 15 gilpastor antes 15 damdam123 antes 15 Drednoter antes 15 Partizan9439 antes 15 bus3992 antes 15 Furom13 posts the small blind of 60 vsemoje posts the big blind of 120 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to vsemoje [Ts Th] laurentiu709 folds gilpastor folds damdam123 folds Drednoter calls 120 Partizan9439 calls 120 bus3992 folds FAISKATA calls 120 Furom13 folds vsemoje has 8 seconds left to act vsemoje raises to 480 Drednoter calls 360 Partizan9439 calls 360 FAISKATA calls 360 *** FLOP *** [6h Jh 9h] (Total Pot: 2,115, 4 Players) vsemoje checks Drednoter bets 120 Partizan9439 folds FAISKATA folds vsemoje raises to 6,760, and is all in Drednoter calls 2,480, and is all in vsemoje shows [Ts Th] Drednoter shows [8d 6s] Uncalled bet of 4,160 returned to vsemoje *** TURN *** [6h Jh 9h] (Total Pot: 7,315, 2 Players, 1 All-In) *** RIVER *** [6h Jh 9h 5s] (Total Pot: 7,315, 2 Players, 1 All-In) vsemoje shows a pair of Tens Drednoter shows a straight, Nine high Drednoter wins the pot (7,315) with a straight, Nine high *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 7,315 | Rake 0 Board: [6h Jh 9h 5s 7d] Seat 1: FAISKATA (button) folded on the Flop Seat 2: Furom13 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: vsemoje (big blind) showed [Ts Th] and lost with a pair of Tens Seat 4: laurentiu709 folded before the Flop Seat 5: gilpastor folded before the Flop Seat 6: damdam123 folded before the Flop Seat 7: Drednoter showed [8d 6s] and won (7,315) with a straight, Nine high Seat 8: Partizan9439 folded on the Flop Seat 9: bus3992 folded before the Flop
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Sometimes these players can really confuse you and i often wonder what is going through their minds sometimes. To try and read some of these players is almost impossible and you will just have to face the facts that there are a lot of donks playing
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If you are trying to read someone who plays whatever cards is getting and plays the all with the same pattern you are going to fail and mess up your game after all. There are many out there and depending on the game, if they are bored or have money to spare, they can mess the table pretty good. It doesnt happen to real money games often, but if you play enough, you can come across to such a phenomenon. I have quit a couple of times ring games, when players from higher limits, come to micro and low to blow some steam. They are playing the pot no matter what.
when i saw his hand i knew i will lose its just stars style u see u pushed all in not 3bet thats caus i knew that donk will call lol
gl guys if i dont have it
I dont know. I mean... Why wouldnt you try a 3bet instead preflop all-in against those players? "you knew the donk will call?"
There was a read in your opponents opening range that indicated you should shove? Its AA, thats okay, but you dont want end up in a 5way all in even with AA. Suited connectors play fairly against monsters. Try to beat them postflop next time. Hes obviously trolled at this point - rather successfully, but he could've fold with those hands postflop maybe.
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i still think here is shove best move. why? i have 4 callers and i dont want them to see flop cheap. - if i 3bet i show i have monster - i wanted to look weak here, like i am trying to steal the pot - and why i wouldnt push with AA preflop if i know one will call me for sure? is better to let them see flop so they can hit? - and pot was almost 3k and i had 6k stack so what amount would u 3bet? funny
Big Blind is 300, it was only one raise, you top up that to 1500 and thats it. Two playa would have fold either way. Also shoving from blinds doesnt make your hands look weak so at that point a simply overbet wont make you get the pot, thats why I would advise to try beat them postflop.
If the donk you chased never folds, you dont want to pay for his luck too, so I think the 3bet could've save you some chip.
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I agree with the shove. A 3-bet to say 1500-1800 wouldn't thin the field enough (a shove didn't) and then you're left playing a big pot OOP with a pot sized bet back.
Let's assume everyone else in this hand plays 'correctly'. A 1500 3 bet makes it HU pot AK vs AA, but gives AK the chance to fold on the missed flop. You win say 2.1k
The shove here pre still gets the AK call and you near double up, winning approx 6k.
Posted by Nastasha1982: I agree with the shove. A 3-bet to say 1500-1800 wouldn't thin the field enough (a shove didn't) and then you're left playing a big pot OOP with a pot sized bet back.
Let's assume everyone else in this hand plays 'correctly'. A 1500 3 bet makes it HU pot AK vs AA, but gives AK the chance to fold on the missed flop. You win say 2.1k
The shove here pre still gets the AK call and you near double up, winning approx 6k.
I didnt say the shove wont be +EV, but he was after the donk (only the donk!), try to trim the field for that only with a 3bet could've been made this whole situation cheaper.
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Posted by bowie1984: Big Blind is 300, it was only one raise, you top up that to 1500 and thats it. Two playa would have fold either way. Also shoving from blinds doesnt make your hands look weak so at that point a simply overbet wont make you get the pot, thats why I would advise to try beat them postflop.
If the donk you chased never folds, you dont want to pay for his luck too, so I think the 3bet could've save you some chip.
Goddamn you give out crap advise, with these blinds 3bet and postflop maybe fold and safe chips You have absolutely no clue wot your talking about. The hand is played perfect, easy shove, calling or 3betting is the worst thing you cud do here. There is only 1 option, allin cmon.
Posted by doomdy: Goddamn you give out crap advise, with these blinds 3bet and postflop maybe fold and safe chips You have absolutely no clue wot your talking about. The hand is played perfect, easy shove, calling or 3betting is the worst thing you cud do here. There is only 1 option, allin cmon.
3betting light.... cmon...
Curse all you want dutchman, but my 3bet would still be 2.5x the second bet, and that amount is pretty standard preflop re-raise anywhere. Easy shove if you want collect all the chips, but again, by his own words, he was trying to take down the donk, the others wouldnt matter in this hand - if really that was his only goal I still think he could've gotten to achieve that easier postflop.
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Posted by bowie1984:
Posted by doomdy: Goddamn you give out crap advise, with these blinds 3bet and postflop maybe fold and safe chips You have absolutely no clue wot your talking about. The hand is played perfect, easy shove, calling or 3betting is the worst thing you cud do here. There is only 1 option, allin cmon.
3betting light.... cmon...
Curse all you want dutchman, but my 3bet would still be 2.5x the second bet, and that amount is pretty standard preflop re-raise anywhere. Easy shove if you want collect all the chips, but again, by his own words, he was trying to take down the donk, the others wouldnt matter in this hand - if really that was his only goal I still think he could've gotten to achieve that easier postflop.
seems that bowie doesnt understand some thinks in poker. i did make 4 points in my post above why shove is only move here but u still dont want to understand
pot was 2k and he would 3bet to 1500
- and again why would i 3bet if i know he calls a shove? - i dont want him to see flop bro
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I suggest everyone who is playing often on PokerStars; to add their "funny" or just interesting hands on boomplayer, 'cause it's much more better to watch, than reading tiny characters in long list
Refering to Your last showed hand:
That situations happens quite often, especially in turbo structure; in this particular case; every player that went all-in with You had less than 15 BB; so don't be suprised if they call your premium hand, with suited connector; especially in multi pot; because when YOu facing that situation, handling suited connector, You should consider that in 3-way multipot it happen quite often, that two opponents will have hands like AQ or AK ; so they are practically "out of outs" if You know what I mean.
(Total Pot: 4,991, 3 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 8,351, 3 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 7,315, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
(Total Pot: 7,315, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
