I find, that playing aces like that will still get you a lot of action on low buy ins and you get called by stupid hands like KJo quite often and win lots of blinds as an preflop 86% favourite. So the play is nice and I use it for example in freerolls very sucesfully as well. Still, you have to remember you have "only" 86% equity pre flop, 1 out of 7 times you will lose, so it is not that unlucky. On the other side if the money went in on flop it would be the worst possible bad beat. 99,9% favourite hand, there is no way you will have more equity unless your opponent is drawing dead.
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Posted by ddblt1970: I find, that playing aces like that will still get you a lot of action on low buy ins and you get called by stupid hands like KJo quite often and win lots of blinds as an preflop 86% favourite. So the play is nice and I use it for example in freerolls very sucesfully as well. Still, you have to remember you have "only" 86% equity pre flop, 1 out of 7 times you will lose, so it is not that unlucky. On the other side if the money went in on flop it would be the worst possible bad beat. 99,9% favourite hand, there is no way you will have more equity unless your opponent is drawing dead.
I totally agree here with ddblt1970
If you play pocket aces like that --> statistically yuo loose 1 out of 6 you (versus pocket pairs and suited connectors)
But postflop if yiou have hit a set or like here 4 aces --> it s a bad beat when there comes a runner runner royal flush on the board
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Luck was really important, but longterm not enough. The poker schools say we can be winning Players lomgterm with the right moves. But i don´´t believe it after a few years. To much sucks and to much rake/fee make it unpossible to be a winning player. But the Hobby is nice
Hitting a 1 outer on the river very unlucky and unlikely too happen you will probably never see this happen in a live tournament vs online but when your big stack you can take these chances doesn't get ant sicker than that
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Brutal beat for your boy.
I had a disgusting hand two days ago but forgot to save it. Dealt pocket Kings and the flop came Ah, Ks, 4d. Hit trips, great right? I play smart and only call the raiser and its down to heads up.
8 drops, nothing special i should be dominating, then another 8 pops off on the river.
Well i get him to go all in and what does he have, Pockets 88's 4 of o kind!
Well doesn't that just suck to be me. Oh well it busted me but i got it in with as good a hand as any.
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I dont understand why it was hilarious the way he played the hand He had pocket aces, should he have slow played them? How many times i have lost with slow play and big raises with AA, cause some call with anything.
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Sure it's unlucky, but how did he played his other hands? The bigstack had to put 1/4 of his stack in this hand. It was a low buy-in, and in tournements like that are for sure gamblers.
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Posted by DaCapo71: Luck was really important, but longterm not enough. The poker schools say we can be winning Players lomgterm with the right moves. But i don''t believe it after a few years. To much sucks and to much rake/fee make it unpossible to be a winning player. But the Hobby is nice
If "after a few years" you are a losing player overall then you're just bad,sorry..
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Offcourse you can be a winning player. After all all that money that those fish type players (like this guy with KJo) lose, it all goes to someone - pokerstars take their share, but only a few percent.
And, i prefer it not to call it luck. It's just statistics. AA dont win 100% of time. ''Only'' for about 80% of time. So 1 of 5 time you'll lose. It's not luck, it's just statistics.
Be glad, that there are losing players, who do you think you are winning money from? Respect them, don´t insult them, so they stay around as long as possible and donate us more money!
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This is the sort of hand you will see in all the bad poker movies!! This guy must have been throwing things at the wall after this hand and i would have had to take a break from the game or i would have smashed something up. Craziest hand i have ever seen
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As i said above, i have pretty much stopped slow playing aces. It is the best hand to go all in preflop, so i go all in, hoping for a caller, and then hoping to win the hand Sometimes it works, others it doesnt. Butt i am getting more wins like that, than slow playing them. At least thats what happens with me.
