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  21-Jan-14, 22:13   #1
Vanessa Selbst - myth or truth 0 
av1966 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1500
In the last PCA edition there was much noise about the great play of the Poker Stars Pro Vanessa Selbst. I am very happy that she did a enviable profit of almost 1,5 M$.Is she an artificial player, who Poker Stars are trying to make a good advertising with or is she on route to become one of the greatests.
Some say that there was nothing great with her poker ,was more luck them well played poker.
What do you think about it?

     
  21-Jan-14, 22:29   #2
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Nastasha1982 
Joined: Oct '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 175
Before the PCA I leaned towards thinking it was luck more than skill. Her results there, and for me more the comments from players I rate speaking very highly of her...I think she must just be exceptionally good.

     
  21-Jan-14, 23:51   #3
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noonlion 

Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1277
She's undeniably good from what I've seen, and her results speak for themselves, luck doesn't win you that much money.

She is hyper aggressive and great at making people question even their strong holdings. Some times this busts her and can be embarrassing when she makes dunce plays, but when it pays it pays and she can establish great table image on her play.

     
  22-Jan-14, 00:03   #4
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HenryMinute 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 67 (M)
Posts: 207
I agree with noonlion.

Although she does get very upset when one of her semi-bluffs gets found out, particularly when it busts her. I remember seeing her go bat-s**t when her UTG raise with 4,4 got called by Liv Boeree's BF (can't remember his name) with A,9. She kept raising, he kept calling and he ended up busting her. She threw a major hissy fit. Big Smile

     
  22-Jan-14, 08:35   #5
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Calmplay 

Joined: Apr '08
Location: Mauritius
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3695
The only truth I know about Vanessa is that he is lesbian and she's certainly got more p***y that I do and indeed that make me feel very sick, as her poker level of playing she's not that bad. Would you play super high roller tournaments if you were a donkey??? no way Agree

     
  22-Jan-14, 10:13   #6
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Nastasha1982 
Joined: Oct '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 175
Posted by Calmplay:
Would you play super high roller tournaments if you were a donkey??? no way Agree


Plenty of donkeys play high stakes poker. Being rich doesn't make you good at poker.

Never understand lesbian couples consisting of a "femme" and a "butch" (being Vanessa). It's like yeh I don't find men attractive so I'll get with a female who looks and acts like a man Shock

     
  22-Jan-14, 13:30   #7
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stanjonhson 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 44
She did well in Highroller PCA but cant speak about her like a erson I know lol. My opinion in tourneys she is much better than Phil Ivey and Guss Big Smile

     
  22-Jan-14, 13:38   #8
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 5525
I think that Vanessa Selbst is one of the best tournament players out there. Her results in recent years have been phenomenal and she always seems to run very deep in lots of televised tournaments and especially well in the High Roller Events

     
  22-Jan-14, 14:01   #9
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schmoyster 
Joined: Jul '09
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 758
Watched her play a lot. She is by far the best female poker player. But she plays like a man Big Smile

     
  22-Jan-14, 20:10   #10
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stanjonhson 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 44
anyway if we talking about female poker players I preffer Liv Boerre Smile Big Smile

     
  22-Jan-14, 20:56   #11
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MB30 

Joined: Jun '12
Location: Greece
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 484
Luck does not exist as we speak about the top class professional players.She repeatedly reaches final tables at high rollers events.If I am not wrong last year took down PCA.So,by definition cant blame her for excessive luck.In my opinion,she understands perfectly the concept of the game and manipulates masterfully her opponents.Most of the times will try to watch these events via live stream(thanks to Pokerstars)And for conclusion luck favors the bold,if you like.But dont think this apply to our case.

     
  24-Jan-14, 07:52   #12
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4847
It's an odd one really. What does make a poker pro, and especially one who makes the poker site front pages and represent the big guns... It's no doubt purely a marketing strategy which from time to time changes according to the prevailing form of the player... It could happen to us all!

     
  24-Jan-14, 16:22   #13
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
She is a really good player,
her aggresive style is amazing . (yes, sometimes she does stupid things as well)



     
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