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  3-Feb-14, 20:52   #1
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LFields 
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This site BankrollMob seriously needs to rethink their freerolls they run through the day. Sure it's a nice promotion to have for your site, but until whoever controls it takes action, they aren't gonna get the best benefits possible from the members.

I mean why would u run these for anyone in the world who plays poker on the site. That's not a bankrollmob freeroll, thats just real money available, and the best players opted in gets some prizes in a leaderboard. But to make this more effective, u have to elimate the option that everyone can register, the password doesnt really mean anything.

Maybe if you allowed members with enough posts in the forums to earn visibility of participating in the leaderboard and get the password, it will benefit both the site and the players in so many more ways, and increase the amount of people online with the site that are contributing.

Even if u created it so that members will apply their username for the leaderboard to opt in, all members can participate in the leaderboard prizes, and it allows only those people to play in the tournament. Or only those members can get the password, and maybe they will spread it around to their friends, maybe the method will be enough so if you're in the leaderboard u dont want to actually let others be in the freeroll, either way option 1 is likely more effective, but this method is guarenteed to reduce the numbers for sure.

In my opinion, this just should be done. Obviously everybody has thought of it, it's obvious many people think and said the same thing. But come on I tihnk this should just be taken into action by now...

Edited by LFields (Monday, February 03, 2014 @ 21:29 GMT)


     
  3-Feb-14, 21:09   #2
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Theapple 

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yea your not the first person to suggest something like that, but im not sure if brm is able to do that, or else i suspect they would have fixed it long time ago.

but yea i would love some restrictions to be put in place, so only brm members are able to play brm freerolls Blink

btw you could use some spacing, paragraphs and stuff like that. Your post is next to impossible to read :=)

     
  3-Feb-14, 21:30   #3
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demodawggy 

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Yes,....it's a DAMNED shame that all those parasitic ckocroaches, and some with MANY usernames have to infest/infect those tourneys... Confused

If they at LEAST played a good game of poker, it wouldn't be too bad,....but this CONSTANT bingo bull$H!T is enough to drive you MAD...and it's SUCH a waste of a good thing... Angry

I have a game plan change in the manner I play those. Maybe I'll start another thread about it later...

It's been discussed MANY a time in the past,...and it seems nothing much can be done...

I have an idea that Fat Tony hasn't tried yet...:

If the blinds can be increased to 8 minutes,....and maybe in addition, the number of paying positions could be increased to about 200 or 250 spots,....MORE BrM members would stand a better chance at getting the leaderboard points for which I'm sure they are playing,....like me...!

Any comments Mr.Tony....?

Smile

     
  3-Feb-14, 21:35   #4
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LFields 
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Posted by Theapple:
yea your not the first person to suggest something like that, but im not sure if brm is able to do that, or else i suspect they would have fixed it long time ago.

Yeah the first thing that would come to their mind is, Uhhhm, can these freerolls be better please? Just thought i would present it well, break it down a bit into a post. I think they would have the power to do it easily, but Idk until i'm clarified.

Posted by Theapple:
btw you could use some spacing, paragraphs and stuff like that. Your post is next to impossible to read :=)

Thanks for the heads up, I noticed it looked terrible once I saw it, I fixed it a little bit. I don't have my grade 10 english.

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Posted by demodawggy:
If they at LEAST played a good game of poker, it wouldn't be too bad,....but this CONSTANT bingo bull$H!T is enough to drive you MAD...and it's SUCH a waste of a good thing... Angry

It's like giving away your child's toys to everyone else ukraine children D:

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Posted by demodawggy:
I have a game plan change in the manner I play those. Maybe I'll start another thread about it later...

Indeed, it won't require any form of normal poker playing lol the donks are stupid, but theres so many reasons they should fix the people registering Tongue they should get on the ball with this, it's a big part of the site tbh

Edited by LFields (Monday, February 03, 2014 @ 21:41 GMT)


     
  3-Feb-14, 21:42   #5
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mahdrof 

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I never understood why Fat Tony has never wanted to take steps to eliminate the people who aren't real members, but it is their site and it is their choice. In any event, any freeroll is going to be partly removed from the reality of playing poker with hard earned cash, so get what you can out of it. GL

     
  3-Feb-14, 22:01   #6
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LFields 
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Posted by mahdrof:
I never understood why Fat Tony has never wanted to take steps to eliminate the people who aren't real members, but it is their site and it is their choice. In any event, any freeroll is going to be partly removed from the reality of playing poker with hard earned cash, so get what you can out of it. GL

Indeed, a freeroll is a freeroll, the standard of play is in fact probably better than most freerolls. If u were looking for lucrative freerolls to make money out of anyways, u would be looking to play at SuitedAce or FullFlush. However, I'm looking to build rolls with no depositing on sites like Carbon, FTP, Stars, BCP... The BRM leaderboard would really benefit me jumping into real money on FTP and Stars. Sure i play weekly freerolls and what i can get my hands on, but its nothing special with those donks as well... Especially to even properly play real money, im gonna need $25 rolls to start.

     
  3-Feb-14, 22:16   #7
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bowie1984 

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Some people here misunderstand something about how affiliate sites usually work.
This site alone has more than 500k members (and working on to grow those numbers more everyday), so there are probably 20-30% worth of password scalpers, who didnt get the passes from here to the freerolls, the other 80% is pure member here. Maybe not active on the forum, but still opening doors and cracking safe etc.
If you are think those $25 freerolls are real donkfest, Im not gonna argue with you - its free and people playing in it just like that way. But those frees are not there to build your bankroll with it, they are there to make you play for the leaderboard. The leaderboard is where the real prices are, and if you put some effort into it, Im sure the three months are enough to get on it.
But again, once I stated this in another topic, back when brm frees were held on Unibet also, the registering players varied from 250-500 based on what part of the day was the frees held (ergo that kind of number some of you had in mind to play aginst what would be optimal). And no, It wasnt easier arriving itm from those three hundred players than its now from 6-8000.
Based on the time and effort I put into those back then I probably could've made much more money elsewhere with some no-depo bonus.

     
  3-Feb-14, 22:24   #8
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LFields 
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Yeah ur right bowie theyre no good for boosting the bankroll, Of course the leader board is there to do that. I may take a run at the leaderboard, I'm just not sure yet. It may be worth my time, 3 months is much better than 1 month for the leaderboard. The only shitty thing is with the fields so large, it relies only on luck. You'll be more consistent with skill, but the luck is pretty much the only factor D:

     
  3-Feb-14, 22:47   #9
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demodawggy 

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Posted by LFields:
but the luck is pretty much the only factor D:



I don't care what ANYBODY says..... the BOTTOM line is that Poker is a game of chance... meaning,...it's 100% chance... ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CHANCE what might happen next...! Question

     
  3-Feb-14, 22:52   #10
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LFields 
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Posted by demodawggy:
Posted by LFields:
but the luck is pretty much the only factor D:



I don't care what ANYBODY says..... the BOTTOM line is that Poker is a game of chance... meaning,...it's 100% chance... ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CHANCE what might happen next...! Question

I would definitely disagree with u on that one though demo, It's a factor, but not what the game is. The game does come down to probability.

A runner runner straight flush can happen as the villains only outs and surely hit, i myself hit a runner runner str8 flush in real life. And u may hit every card in the deck and take down 3 consecutive tourneys. But it is a game of skill, especially in cash games. And a big part of the skill is endurance and not going on tilt for me.

     
  3-Feb-14, 23:08   #11
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uno1Bomber 

Joined: May '13
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I agree with bowie. BRM "freerolls" attract new users.
It's for promotion.
People search for free games and find out what BRM is.

     
  3-Feb-14, 23:12   #12
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demodawggy 

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Because you will NEVER know what card(s) will come next,....or what move other folks will make,....makes it chance.

Even if it's ONLY so little as 1% chance,...you will NEVER know WHEN that 1% will go good for you or bad for you,... That turns that 1% chance into 100% chance... It's not a matter of opinion,....it's fact.

What really cracks me up the most in poker is when folks say silly rubbish like "I put that guy on a 9"....or "I knew he had the Jack".... Sometimes they've 'guessed' it correctly,...but most of the time they are wrong,....even if your name is Daniel Negraneau or Phil Hellmuth or whomever... Folks are all impressed when they 'guess' it correctly,...but seem to forget the MAJORITY of times when they are wrong... Smile

     
  3-Feb-14, 23:40   #13
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LFields 
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That to me is contradiction.
I 100% understand what you mean, you're just going about it the wrong way.

Posted by demodawggy:
Because you will NEVER know what card(s) will come next,....or what move other folks will make,....makes it chance.

Even if it's ONLY so little as 1% chance,...you will NEVER know WHEN that 1% will go good for you or bad for you,... That turns that 1% chance into 100% chance... It's not a matter of opinion,....it's fact.

What really cracks me up the most in poker is when folks say silly rubbish like "I put that guy on a 9"....or "I knew he had the Jack".... Sometimes they've 'guessed' it correctly,...but most of the time they are wrong,....even if your name is Daniel Negraneau or Phil Hellmuth or whomever... Folks are all impressed when they 'guess' it correctly,...but seem to forget the MAJORITY of times when they are wrong... Smile


What you said does not make it chance, but yes not knowing what cards will come makes it chance, I'm certain you haven't dabbled in any stakes like 100NL and above, idk how often you are minimizing your opponents ranges of the general population, or taking note of peoples tendencies.

C'mon, are you saying this game is 100% chance? Let's see how you fair with 100k hands against a high stakes nosebleed regular.

Being against a 1% hand, u don't know what card will come next, but (if you saw the hole cards), not that it matters, u wont know til they flip it, if youre betting for value and theyre calling u down at 1%, 99% of the possible card sequences won't give them the winning hand.

Edited by LFields (Monday, February 03, 2014 @ 23:50 GMT)


     
  3-Feb-14, 23:45   #14
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demodawggy 

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Posted by LFields:
That to me is contradiction.
I 100% understand what you mean, you're just going about it the wrong way.

Posted by demodawggy:
Because you will NEVER know what card(s) will come next,....or what move other folks will make,....makes it chance.

Even if it's ONLY so little as 1% chance,...you will NEVER know WHEN that 1% will go good for you or bad for you,... That turns that 1% chance into 100% chance... It's not a matter of opinion,....it's fact.

What really cracks me up the most in poker is when folks say silly rubbish like "I put that guy on a 9"....or "I knew he had the Jack".... Sometimes they've 'guessed' it correctly,...but most of the time they are wrong,....even if your name is Daniel Negraneau or Phil Hellmuth or whomever... Folks are all impressed when they 'guess' it correctly,...but seem to forget the MAJORITY of times when they are wrong... Smile


What you said does not make it chance, but yes not knowing what cards will come makes it chance, I'm certain you haven't dabbled in any stakes like 100NL and above, idk how often you are minimizing your opponents ranges of the general population, or taking note of peoples tendencies.

C'mon, are you saying this game is 100% chance? Let's see how you fair with 100k hands against a high stakes nosebleed regular.

Being against a 1% hand, u don't know what card will come next, but (if you saw the whole cards), not that it matters, u wont know til they flip it, if youre betting for value and theyre calling u down at 1%, 99% of the possible card sequences will give them the winning hand.



If you can tell me EXACTLY when that 1% will or will not go your way EVERY time without fail,...then there is no chance involved... Otherwise 'odds' are involved.... When odds are involved,...it all becomes chance...

Edited by demodawggy (Monday, February 03, 2014 @ 23:50 GMT)


     
  3-Feb-14, 23:46   #15
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LFields 
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Posted by demodawggy: What really cracks me up the most in poker is when folks say silly rubbish like "I put that guy on a 9"....or "I knew he had the Jack".... Sometimes they've 'guessed' it correctly,...but most of the time they are wrong,....even if your name is Daniel Negraneau or Phil Hellmuth or whomever... Folks are all impressed when they 'guess' it correctly,...but seem to forget the MAJORITY of times when they are wrong... Smile


It's kinda funny when they exaggerate their abilities at the highest stakes, but usually they aren't exaggerating, they win against some of the best for a reason, not because they're very lucky. They know wtf they're doing.

I'm not impressed at all when they make sick reads, calling down with queen high, or insta folding a full house on the turn. That's everyday spots that they find theirself in, because they're professionals, and they play a lot of poker.

The game is not as much luck as you think. When you're playing long sessions, you have to start taking into account player images, their betting tendencies, many other friggen tendencies. Its endless the concepts and abilities that is evolving and being learnt in texas holdem to be very skilled.

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Posted by demodawggy:
Posted by LFields:
That to me is contradiction.
I 100% understand what you mean, you're just going about it the wrong way.

Posted by demodawggy:
Because you will NEVER know what card(s) will come next,....or what move other folks will make,....makes it chance.

Even if it's ONLY so little as 1% chance,...you will NEVER know WHEN that 1% will go good for you or bad for you,... That turns that 1% chance into 100% chance... It's not a matter of opinion,....it's fact.

What really cracks me up the most in poker is when folks say silly rubbish like "I put that guy on a 9"....or "I knew he had the Jack".... Sometimes they've 'guessed' it correctly,...but most of the time they are wrong,....even if your name is Daniel Negraneau or Phil Hellmuth or whomever... Folks are all impressed when they 'guess' it correctly,...but seem to forget the MAJORITY of times when they are wrong... Smile


What you said does not make it chance, but yes not knowing what cards will come makes it chance, I'm certain you haven't dabbled in any stakes like 100NL and above, idk how often you are minimizing your opponents ranges of the general population, or taking note of peoples tendencies.

C'mon, are you saying this game is 100% chance? Let's see how you fair with 100k hands against a high stakes nosebleed regular.

Being against a 1% hand, u don't know what card will come next, but (if you saw the whole cards), not that it matters, u wont know til they flip it, if youre betting for value and theyre calling u down at 1%, 99% of the possible card sequences will give them the winning hand.



If you can tell me EXACTLY when that 1% will or will not go your way EVERY time without fail,...then there is no chance involved... Otherwise 'odds' are involved.... When odds are involved,...it all becomes chance...


No please don't go any further about that, I'm not gonna say the 1% hand will hit 1% of the time if its in that spot 1000 times. maybe it will 5% of the time, maybe it will 10, but 99% of the sequences won't give the 1% the winning hand at showdown. maybe its the winning hand if the opponent is showing weakness too, and they end up making a very big bluff.

Like maybe the player theyre against is a very good player, and they realised the opponent raised 9/10 of the last 10 rivers with at least a FH , so they fold down their ace high flush, but they only had bottom pair.

Edited by LFields (Monday, February 03, 2014 @ 23:53 GMT)


     
  3-Feb-14, 23:54   #16
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demodawggy 

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You used the word 'tendencies'.... That means what a person is 'likely' to do or not to do.... But unless you can say what they will do 100% of the time and be correct about it 100% of the time,....then it's all chance... Smile

     
  4-Feb-14, 00:04   #17
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LFields 
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Posted by demodawggy:
You used the word 'tendencies'.... That means what a person is 'likely' to do or not to do.... But unless you can say what they will do 100% of the time and be correct about it 100% of the time,....then it's all chance... Smile

Ok fine, you're right about it being 100% chance, but a good player, is gonna be right so often, its not gonna matter if they make a misstep after all the profit they make.

Consistency!

I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's just a little weird saying it's 100% chance. because the way i see it it's skill. Yes it's chance, but thats what the skill is too. Knowing the chances, and you will have to take a risk. U wager before u play, there is a chance u will not cash in ur S&G or tourney no matter how good u are or how many very good plays u make, and or getting ur money in as a 4:1 fave. And theres a chance sitting down at a cash game U won't make profit or will bust many BIs.

     
  4-Feb-14, 00:10   #18
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demodawggy 

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Ya,..... I pretty much agree with that.... After all,....you know when you've made a bad play for sure Smile Thumbs Up

     
  4-Feb-14, 00:23   #19
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LFields 
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Posted by demodawggy:
Ya,..... I pretty much agree with that.... After all,....you know when you've made a bad play for sure Smile Thumbs Up

Yep. I just made a REALLY bad play. Im about average stack with AQs in position in a BRM freeroll on FTP 200 left 108 is pay. 1 who has me covered shoves, another who has me covered is allin in as well. (I know this guy is calling weak wheter its 8's or KQ idk. the other guy likely has AK, but if he is shoving with 9's, 10's, jacks, Im suited and have 2 overs.

I made the call because if i hit the flop, flush draws, spade draws, its just one of those hands thats good in multiway allins unless im up against AA,KK which they likely won't open shove with.
A few factors that made me call, i never wagered to get in the tourney, If i win this pot, I'm 3x the average stack and will likely make a deep run to the FT if i run good when i need to....

If you're reading still, the guy who open shoved had AKo, guy who i figured was calling light had A7o, Then me with AQs. The AK is probs only 46% or so here idk exact number. i could hit flush or straight. One of us underdogs could hit 7 or a Q to take it down it they dont get re outdrawn
So i guess its not a bad play if i want to be more loose to try and jump ahead.
No one pairs the flop and no draws so we look like crap now. Still decent chance 7 or Q could come to bust. The K falls on river, once again Q or 7 still could have fell, and then he throws his computer out the window. I was eliminated, I knew i made a bad play lol but i would be fu(king Christopher Columbus if i won

     
  4-Feb-14, 01:21   #20
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stanjonhson 
Joined: Jun '13
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well lets make BRM PSTARs freeroll in a sunday million format Big Smile lol or donkament where every player go allin every hand ( actually on the early stages its quiet like it). I've been playing brm freerolls before I got reg here, but than I understood its not a proper deal Smile I seen many other sites freerolls that u need a ticket to play for but maybe its some burucracy problems for BANKROLLMOB amdins to do it ie that I dont know really

     
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