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  17-Feb-14, 17:21   #1
A way to defeat 0 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1500
Lost a few in a cash game last week

I was up, and I should just walk away ,but no just started playing real tight.

Looking back, I gave up some pots. Need to be aggressive , but it was the opposite.
Scared and conservative

I also notice your entire stack can get blown out in 1 bad hand.
Last 2 times I played, I was gutted on a back call (His flush beat my straight, etc)
I guess that's poker, but I have trouble laying down a decent hand. This has been my biggest source of losses Aww crap!

  17-Feb-14, 18:19   #2

Joined: Sep '13
Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 1550
Posted by av1966:
I also notice your entire stack can get blown out in 1 bad hand.
Last 2 times I played, I was gutted on a back call (His flush beat my straight, etc)
I guess that's poker, but I have trouble laying down a decent hand. This has been my biggest source of losses Aww crap!

me too, but with time you learn not to shove on a 4 to a flush board, and how your A high 'nut' flush doesnt work quite well on paired boards, etc Big Smile

it actually gets quite easy, at least on micro limits Big Smile if someone was like super passive just calling flop/river and all out of sudden, on the river he snap shoves without a second of thinking, just let your hand go, even if its 2nd nuts, he probably has a fh on paired board, nut flush on non paired, etc etc.

Thats how chasers usually try to make you pay for their nut flush hit, they call call, you werebetter all the way til that river card, and then they take the initiative and overbet (sometimes like 8x pot size, while they were so happy just calling your value bets prior to that river card). So they feel they lost value because of whatever the reason they might be, and try to take it back on the river, and at that poitn you fold.

sure it could be a bluff from time to time but from my experience in said situation sathere is like 1 shove bluff compared to 50 nuts trying to make you call with your obviously decent hand.

also, bluffs do happen from time to time, but thats mostly once one of those guys (chasers) miss their draw, in which case most of the time you should still be way ahead (unless you were banking on your pair of 6's on AKx board Big Smile) and calling is stll ok there, as usually they had nothing (like leteraly nothing to warrant a call, except their Axs, or Kxs on A high board) so only way to win that pot is to bluff Tongue

  17-Feb-14, 18:27   #3
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 9792
Laying down a good hand is difficult for everyone i guess.
How many times have i busted because i didnt fold, while i should have.
Its like you get bad cards, one after another, then you get for once
good cards, and suddenly you see raise after reraise on the table from other
I am giving it some thought and most of the times i call lol and get busted.

  17-Feb-14, 20:16   #4
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
You still have time to learn mate, but it's good that you learned something from your cash session Smile

Keep us posted with your evolution on next cash sessions. btw On what limit do you play?

  17-Feb-14, 20:41   #5

Joined: Jun '12
Location: Greece
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 484
Yes it is a great ability to know when get up from a table.Needs self control and you have to be brave somehow.How can anybody give up playing when you are on hot run?Playing seems to be easy when u hit your draws or when you have enough chips to make opponent give up his hand.On the other side when we are loosing we curse our bad luck and we play all kind of cards in a desperate attempt to brake even.I think something like that is human and should everyone find his way to deal with it.

  18-Feb-14, 10:02   #6
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 5381
These are the most important decisions to make, when to lay down what seems a good hand but is actually a losing one.The very top players learn this quickly and to lay down a hand is more important than actually playing one sometimes

  18-Feb-14, 10:12   #7
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
You definitely shouldn´t stop playing when you are up and you play good.
Continue with your good play and make some more money, of couse some bad beats can happen.
Only time when you should stop playing is when you feel, that you start to play worse, you are on tilt, you make some bad calls, overplay your hands...

  18-Feb-14, 11:02   #8

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8470
no way... you wanna say that you can blow your whole stack in 1 bad hand...wow never knew that, thanks for the update Worship i guess i am just too good player to actually experience this myself. you know this trouble of yours can be solved easily: play fl poker with 1499 bb stack, you will never lose your whole stack in 1 hand Thumbs Up

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