Joined: Nov '11
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Hello, I sent them an email 3 days ago, still no response. And last week they did response within few hours. I saw even over 2k players there. And that's alot, since i've never seen more than 1600 in 1 year. Like i said. I asked some peoples in the tourney i've played, if they requested an withdraw in the past 3 months, and they said, they did and received the money fast. Few minutes earlier i just sent them 2 more emails, to support ballboker , and support play2b, hope some of them will response. I wish to ask Admin, if they know something about Ballpoker at this moment.
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Posted by qzmag: Hello, I sent them an email 3 days ago, still no response. And last week they did response within few hours. I saw even over 2k players there. And that's alot, since i've never seen more than 1600 in 1 year. Like i said. I asked some peoples in the tourney i've played, if they requested an withdraw in the past 3 months, and they said, they did and received the money fast. Few minutes earlier i just sent them 2 more emails, to support ballboker , and support play2b, hope some of them will response. I wish to ask Admin, if they know something about Ballpoker at this moment.
Have a nice day and GL.
Please ask players you face in tournaments if they play on Ballpoker or if they belong to another skin of the same network. Just to be aware if it is only Ballpoker being insolvent and not the other skins or if Ballpoker is paying only some players and not others.
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 47 (F)
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They belong to a network magatt. From the pics in their site the software looks the same as cake poker. Their client is the same in Play2BStar as the Wincake. Now when you click Revolution, there is no pic of the software, but from what im aware of Revolution is Cake's network. I must have missed some episodes
You will have to note also the 2 notice's in both poker clients : NOTICE: Please note that when you are playing on Play2B Star, you are leaving the Jurisdiction of Malta and therefore not protected by Maltese law. NOTICE: Please note that when you are playing on the Cake Network you are leaving the Jurisdiction of Malta and therefore not protected by Maltese law What is the story here?
They are saying: The operator of this website is Goalgaming Limited, Maltese company registration number C53179 having its registered address at Suite 3, 64/1, Agiton Buildings, St. Anthony Street, San Gwann, Malta. This website is operated by Goalgaming Ltd and regulated by Lotteries and Gaming Authority in Malta under the following licences...........
Joined: Nov '11
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I watched on Pokerprolabs, it's not there, nor Cake ... duck poker, PKR, Sky Poker, BountyPoker or Poker Mira. I sent them 3 emails , 1 3 days ago, still nothing, today another 2, still nothing. Players keep playing there. Plus i tried to ask them if they made an withdraw in the last 3 months, no one answered. Myght be those who can't make an withdraw. Who knows....
Joined: Mar '09
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It wont be easy finding what site pays in these networks. Cake poker is one of them, i know that they are paying, but they are slow enough also. And yet these networks have a decent amount of players. At least so far. If i find any that pays fast ill let you know.
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There was the acceptance of the USA players at one point after BF which helped having their numbers up. Also the Cake network is the one having dealt rake system which is the best for lower limits since you dont have to contribute to the pot. That helps a lot clearing a bonus. I hope that nothing will go wrong since i have money in cake, but its true also that they do take way too long to pay.
Joined: Jun '09
Location: Australia
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 90
Hey guys
i think all poker sites on the Revolution Gaming network are very slow or not paying anyone i did play at adameve poker for a couple of months but then got a email from adameve poker stating that revolution was slow paying there skins
Adameve Poker had just recently claimed that their network, Revolution Gaming, was slow to pay skins, which included Adameve. They wrote the following message to their players after shutting down:
In light of recent events and the difficulties faced by our poker room, we have to suspend deposits for safety of funds of our players. On the first of April AdamevePoker poker client does not function, resuming only upon payment of the full amount of the balance.
If there's any silver lining about these closures, both player bases should get paid since these sites are pretty reputable operations.
AdamEvePoker closed their Revolution Gaming skin in March 2013. Management blamed the network, stating that the company had not been paid commission on rake or winnings in five months. AdamEvePoker claimed that it was paying players out of pocket and had to stop doing so to keep their casino and sports betting activity solvent. Poker players at AdamEvePoker have reported receiving 50 cents on the dollar.
Joined: Nov '11
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Hello, Thanks wolfy for these info. I sent to ball poker support 5 emails from last week and today. Got no response at all. I got to some tables, and asked if someone have made an withdraw in the last 3 months. No one said anything, anything... WTF? And i asked on 10 or more tables, different peoples... I don't understand why they didn't responded . Tomorow i think i will send an email to them again, but it will be something about promotion. Let's see if they respond. They need to give me some money on my poker account.
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not a problem
best to stay away from Revolution Gaming network even lock poker had alot of trouble with them here is some copy paste from cards chat
Players on Lock Poker have long complained of lengthy payout timetables; with some asserting the absolute nonpayment of funds from the online poker website. Many have taken to a thread on Internet forums to document their claims and rally support from other players with the same problems. Of the documented cashout problems, a player going by the moniker IHasTehNutz has been the most vocal about his dissolution with Lock Poker on the forums. His “cashout report” now includes at least 265 players who have all waited more than two months – some approximately one year – for withdrawals to be completed by Lock. To be exact, there are 177 players who have not been paid more than six months since their requests for funds, 12 players have been waiting more than 300 days and two have surpassed the year mark.
According to IHasTehNutz, more than $700,000 is owed to players on his list, all of them having shown proof of their cashout requests.
What Does the Lock Say?
In a word, nothing. Sites that have contacted Shane Bridges, Lock Poker’s social media correspondent, have not received responses. In fact, he no longer posts on the Internet forums. That option was shut down several months ago in favor of players corresponding only on the Lock Poker site. However, those who have not received their payouts have not been given any substantial responses regarding their money.
The professional poker players associated with Lock have also been quiet on the subject. Some like Chris Moorman and Paul Volpe long ago disassociated themselves with the site and ended their sponsorships. Others like Annette Obrestad, Eric Lynch, and Felipe Ramos continue to promote Lock Poker despite the player complaints.
Hopes Dashed
On October 29, Lock Poker announced that it was leaving the Revolution Gaming Network and launching its own site on a proprietary software platform. At that time, the Lock spokesperson told Pokerfuse that a new cashier had been rolled out and other improvements would be available in the “coming month” to improve cashout times for players. The company said that “numerous and ongoing breaches of contract by the network operator” caused problems and spurred the move.
Just when players believed that the move may help with their pending withdrawals and trust issues with Lock Poker going forward, a war of words broke out between Lock and Revolution. The latter told Pokerfuse that it, “Tried very hard to help Lock work through its problems with slow withdrawals to players.” In the end, though, they said, “Due to lack of payment to the Network and a large growing debt, the Network had no choice but to eventually segregate Lock players almost entirely from Network cash games.” Lock’s spokesperson declared those statements false and defamatory.
Regardless, players continue to wait for their money. Several months since the Lock Poker separation from Revolution, there have been no significant improvements regarding cashouts. In fact, many players report that communication is even tougher since that time. And as 2014 begins, they still wait for their rightful funds.
Joined: Mar '09
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Yea at this point and with all the comments we have seen and personal experiences, these networks can be a loss of time and money if you are a serious player. Better taking your chances with someone that pays slow but 100%, than this were you never know if you will get your money.
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Hello, Nop, nothing. I also stop playing there. I sent them some emails 2-3 weeks ago about some money from a promotion, nothing. Sent them 2 or 3 emails about the promotion. Also 4 or 5 emails about withdraw. Nothing so far. But i'm pesimist right now. I don't think we will get our money. Over 4 months so far for me and Fer8973 over 5 months
Joined: Mar '09
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Hitting that mark with so many months delay, someone have to start getting used to the idea, that will not get any money. If they come it will be like a small lotto game you have won. Just keep the client to check for it from time to time and play elsewhere of course.
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Admin, being Ballpoker insolvent to us I would like to tell/know some things from you (if you like to share).
- Is Ballpoker respecting the deals they have with BRM?
- Is still the case to have them adertised here? I mean I have great trust in BRM and joined Ballpoker through your link and also deposited my money there once (luckily I withdrew in the past way more than I deposited). But seems clear to me they are no more reliable and people should get warned they may lose the their money there.
- Are you someway in touch with them or may you try to get .. telling them that some of the players BRM addressed there can't withdraw their money and aren't also able to get an answer to their messages?
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Posted by magatt966: Admin, being Ballpoker insolvent to us I would like to tell/know some things from you (if you like to share).
- Is Ballpoker respecting the deals they have with BRM?
- Is still the case to have them adertised here? I mean I have great trust in BRM and joined Ballpoker through your link and also deposited my money there once (luckily I withdrew in the past way more than I deposited). But seems clear to me they are no more reliable and people should get warned they may lose the their money there.
- Are you someway in touch with them or may you try to get .. telling them that some of the players BRM addressed there can't withdraw their money and aren't also able to get an answer to their messages?
- Thx in advance for your cooperation
Hello, I hope admin will see this, and if he have an answer he will say it. If they don't pay, why BRM should advertise them. I mean they still pay for the peoples who are bought by BRM? Please admin tell us if you know something about this situation. We are waiting out money for more than 4-5 months at this moment.
I hate to be the one's to tell you guys this but none of you are getting your money. The LGA have revoked the licence of 'GoalGaming' who own ball poker among other sites like poker mambo and GoalWin. The licencing companies are usually all bad at actually protecting the player and for them to actually take away a liscence then the sites normally have been running insolvent for some time.
For the guys wanting to play on the revolution network. There are two sides; the bankrupt side (Ball Poker, cake poker, Colt poker, EuroClub poker etc) and the solvent side which to name one that has a good standing is intertops.
Hope this helps, good luck with getting your money
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