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BLOG: If It Weren't For Luck...

Tags: blog, blogger The Prince of Freerolls
Blog post published on Friday, April 04, 2014, written by The Prince of Freerolls.
Phil Hellmuth would win every tournament. Apparently. If it weren't for luck, every tournament would be won by the player who had read the most poker books, or could read their opponents the best. But what would that game even be? Maybe it would be like Texas Block ‘Em, the upcoming poker App from Thwart Poker. Their attempt will revolve around the concept of choosing your own hole cards [...]   Read more » If It Weren't For Luck...

  4-Apr-14, 11:40   #1
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 5533
I think that luck is a fundamental part of playing games of chance. Skill will get you a long way but if you are not lucky as well then not even the very top players would do well in these multi player tournaments

     
  4-Apr-14, 17:19   #2
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Heskor 
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 2659
yep i agree, luck is part of the game and without it the poker rooms would be making money off players as they would be paying rake and playing against players of similar level. Just imagine a head up match that is getting stalemated, you will lose more in rake if you cannot exploit the opponent. Also luck keeps the fishes winning thus staying in the game and feeding money to other players who then feed it to better players.

Just hope for a balance of good and bad luck, I know somebody who is under ev on millions of hands.

     
  4-Apr-14, 19:28   #3
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
It is simple,

sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but you can make yourself a better chance to

win if you play right.

     
  4-Apr-14, 21:10   #4
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4852
Poker is like life (some would say more important than life itself) and in life (As in poker). Despite all the best laid plans and intentions, you still need lady luck to shine on you to make the difference between a deal and a great deal. That's why poker is so fascinating.

     
  4-Apr-14, 22:12   #5
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: Hungary
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 4685
If It Weren't For Luck...

The Indianapolis Colts would've been in real deep trouble. They've got rid of Peyton Manning and Tom Tedesco went to San Diego, so the front office had casualties too. Oh, wait...
Its the wrong topic. Cool

Anyway, every p.oker know-how states that these are just methods to gain edge or to overcome your opponents edge. The random factor of the game (which is commonly stated as 'luck') will always going to be random.

     
  4-Apr-14, 22:34   #6
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5680
That could be one of the MOST ridiculous things I've ever read about poker...

'Take the luck out of poker and all the good players would always win'....???

Poker is inherantly a game of chance... which means it's 100% luck...

I don't care how good or bad somebody is, or what any of the seasoned pros say...you can NEVER predict what will happen next...

If you try to bluff,...will people fall for it 100% of the time...? no

If you try to bully,...will people back off 100% of the time...no

If you have 4 aces or a straight flush,...will a higher SF NEVER come up...no...

If you could predict any of that,...then the game is no longer poker...nor even a 'game' for that matter...

Even if you have a 99.99% chance of winning,....you cannot predict when that .01% will bite you in the ass...

Ridiculous...but entertaining... Big Smile

     
  5-Apr-14, 20:04   #7
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
Yes, it is about luck,

but you can improve your chances by playing right.

     
  6-Apr-14, 00:31   #8
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5680
Hey doubletopp.... I was sitting at the same table as you in one of those $15 freebie Coin Flips on Party Poker earlier...! It was the first round,...I got knocked out,..but I see you survived...!

How did you do in that,...Did you win it...?

I've not won any yet,...but I did make the final table in one...! I was prayin' I'd be the one,....but it wasn't to be... Confused

$15 in one shot would be NICE...!!!

     
  6-Apr-14, 20:24   #9
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
He probably didn´t win that one,

pretty low probability. Big Smile

     
  8-Apr-14, 13:08   #10
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
It's not easy to try to analyze the luck of a player at a real online game because, if he wins before the showdown with a bad hand - or just a worst hand than his opponent's - you will have to consider it a good bluff and not luck, when it was just luck in the same because of his opponent's fail to understand the bluff and keep in the game until the showdown.

     
  8-Apr-14, 20:51   #11
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nike2310 
Joined: Sep '09
Location: Croatia
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 25
that's really tough one... but i think i don't have any luck... if i get good hand (AA KK QQ JJ or AK) i loose it almost every time.. so i like cards like 9-10 10-J 7-8 suited ... that's my thing. and i learned how to play them cause I gave up on luck... -.- but ofcourse sometimes i get a very big pot with for example 4-9 not suited on big blind..sooo..that's all relative Smile

     
  8-Apr-14, 21:57   #12
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dule-vu 

Joined: May '09
Location: Croatia
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 3229
you must have luck in every part of life,at least little bit!cant expect that everything work on skill and brain,especially when you play againts computer,machines or players who like to play on stupid cards!then you are on tilt,when you see that donk pay on 6 4 and get straight againts your KK!

     
  8-Apr-14, 22:30   #13
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tmurphy2185 
Joined: Jul '13
Location: Canada
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 23
poker is about luck most of the time .. and skill ..id say its roughley 50 percent luck and 50 percent skill..because no one knows what cards are gonna be dealt .. so ther for u have to get luckey

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poker is about luck most of the time .. and skill ..id say its roughley 50 percent luck and 50 percent skill..because no one knows what cards are gonna be dealt .. so ther for u have to get luckey

     
  12-Apr-14, 19:21   #14
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
Nope!

Poker is 100% skill of knowing the chance of the "luck" happening and working with it.

     
  7-Jun-14, 15:26   #15
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 544
poker is about luck because there will no excitement in this game if the favorite always wins...by winning behind is what luck gives us....its like cockfighting...the good well trained rooster does not win all the time...sometime the the weak wins and its because of luck....

     
  8-Jun-14, 08:14   #16
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
That Texas Block´em looks pretty retarded to be honest.

So far the weirdest poker game I have ever seen.

     
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