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  14-Apr-14, 15:20   #1
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av1966 
Joined: Mar '09
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How many games are you comfortable multi-tabling ?

For me 2-4 tables is in my comfort zone for making good decisions(so i think)

I start getting a little anxious at 5+ and notice I'm more likely to get all-in where I otherwise wouldn't with 2-4.

Maybe a monitor that's bigger than 13" would help? Smile Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  14-Apr-14, 15:35   #2
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Phisix 

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Two to Four as well for me. That is enough so that I have enough time for each, anything more and I do not feel comfortable. Usually do two those but it depends on the day.

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Two to Four as well for me. That is enough so that I have enough time for each, anything more and I do not feel comfortable. Usually do two those but it depends on the day.

     
  14-Apr-14, 15:49   #3
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
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Usually anywhere between 14-25 tables continous.
It depends on the format and what kind of game (cash/SNGs/MTTs) you play.
SNGs and also MTTs in some situations are very simple games, once you are expirienced enough some decisions you just do automaticly because they are so standard.
As for cashgames, I wouldn't need as many tables, sometimes I play FL cash 8 tables is enough for me to not get bored there, but 8-tabling SNGs would bore me to hell and would just end up in me browsing on youtube the whole time and lose focus completely.

As for the question, a bigger monitor doesn't necessarily increase your number of tables. There are other factors that are much more important, for example your ability of making good and profitable decisions.
If you really want to multitable effectivly you should probably stack tables above each other anyways, and then you should get the same result in your ability of tables you play, no matter if 13" monitor or 1000000" monitor.

     
  14-Apr-14, 15:58   #4
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
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I can comfortably do anywhere up to 20 at a time... but 60 is the most I've ever played for any length of time (but have to admit to the getting a little hectic, any time you have to do anything other than fold)...

IMO, the hotkeys are a must, and tables must be stacked in order for it not to hurt your eyes....

     
  14-Apr-14, 16:05   #5
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DDPascalDD 
Joined: Jan '14
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Wow, if 8 sng's can bore someone... I only play at 1 table. Maybe 2 sometimes, freeroll and cashgame mtt or sng.
My advice is to not play at more than 3 tables (can be more if you are a good player)! You should notice everything they do, so you know when they are bluffing, have great cards, etc.

I can't follow every move they make when playing at 25 tables like bemyatmplz, and I think nobody can.

BUT, if you can get profit while playing at 25 tables on average it CAN be more profitable than playing on just a single table. That's because you can multiply that average profit with 25!

     
  14-Apr-14, 16:10   #6
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Calmplay 

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Up to 8 tables I can play at my ease, 1 more is a little bit difficult but it for sure depends on certain software too as some I can only play up to 4 and that software is microgaming, I multi-tabling a lot fpr cash games, sometimes for MTTs and very rare for SitnGos...

     
  14-Apr-14, 16:12   #7
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Phisix 

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60 tables!? Is that even possible....

     
  14-Apr-14, 16:56   #8
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Heskor 
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haha 60 tables impossible and the limit from most poker sites is not that much and you just make yourself lose money faster and I think he might be joking or just talking s**t lol. I am a new player so one table looks much to me but now I can 4 tables easily and this is my best combo and 5-6 if I am feeling really good. I wonder back when I could not play two tables at the same time. Now I just laugh and be happy with my progress.

Anyway find your optimum tables and have fun.

     
  14-Apr-14, 17:55   #9
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BeMyATMplz 
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60 is certainly possible, although I wouldn't advise it.
I have also played a session with up to 48 tables once,however it gets exhausting very,very quickly and the winrate suffers more than the use of playing that number of tables too.
You shouldn't play more tables than the max. your game is still close to optimal at.
My average ROI is about 8-9% at the SNG-stakes I play. If I played less tables I could probably slightly bump it up, to 12% or so, however my hourly rate playing would be lower if I'd cut my number of tables in half, so I feel for myself I have found a range of number of tables that is optimal for me.
What's also benificial for me is the site/software (pokerstars),it's very very grinder-friendly in its' use.

     
  14-Apr-14, 18:20   #10
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pochui 

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holy crap 60 tables, wow Worship Thumbs Up i will try to see how that feels with opening up 60 play money tables just out of curiosity... bemy and yout look like real multitable maniacs , hats off for managing to play so many tables and do it profitably, guess rakeback becomes very significant amount of overall profit while multitabling seriously

     
  14-Apr-14, 19:14   #11
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pinotte 
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I think that multi table stacking is not to ctedible Confused Confused Confused
Gere is a picture of the installation of a tru multi tables player poker stars nanokoko. Randy Lew.










     
  14-Apr-14, 19:35   #12
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BeMyATMplz 
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Posted by pochui:
holy crap 60 tables, wow Worship Thumbs Up i will try to see how that feels with opening up 60 play money tables just out of curiosity... bemy and yout look like real multitable maniacs , hats off for managing to play so many tables and do it profitably, guess rakeback becomes very significant amount of overall profit while multitabling seriously


It depends, for me who plays low stakes there is still a decent winrate from winnings alone to be made in SNGs, however starting midstakes, if you have a good VIP status your rakeback-winrate is at least equal to what you make from game-profit, then you basicly massgrind for the rakeback.
If you take my $3.50 18 player SNGs as example - I usually played 20 tables continous, that makes about 30 games per hour.
I made about $0.30/game in profit on average, so that makes $9/hour.
As for the rakeback, even a supernova won't come close to that in rakeback.
1.87VPPs*3,5 (SN multiplier)= 6.55FPPs/game, which equals about 10.5 cents per game (wow, didn't even notice until now it's that much).

And about the nanonoko picture - I agree that tiling tables might be better playing cashgames (though not necessary).
Playing 24 tables of SNGs tiled would be a very big pain. The advantage nanonoko has is that he plays at least midstakes, at 6 max. tables there will usually be 4 other regs (who also play many tables) and one fish. That means there are alot less hands per hour per table, and thus making it much easier for him to play 24 tables than for someone trying that at NL2 for example.

     
  14-Apr-14, 20:42   #13
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pinotte 
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I dont know where you are playing your 60 tables but pokerstars rules is max 24 multi tables.
Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused

Conversely, players who frequently play the maximum allowed 24 tables and act significantly faster than average will be allowed to play more than 24 tables concurrently.

     
  14-Apr-14, 21:39   #14
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BeMyATMplz 
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Don't believe what you read if you know zero backround.. there is a 24 tables max. rule, but this rule applies to cashgames only.
For SNGs/MTTs you can have as many open as you wish.

     
  14-Apr-14, 22:18   #15
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Mober 
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A bigger monitor definitely helps.
I have a 15" one and i can play with no stress six tables at a time,
since the tables and cards are big enough, not struggling to see what is going on.
If you start minimizing a table to see another one thats when the stress begins.

     
  14-Apr-14, 23:20   #16
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pinotte 
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Don't believe what you read if you know zero backround.. there is a 24 tables max. rule, but this rule applies to cashgames only.
For SNGs/MTTs you can have as many open as you wish.


True you are right this rule do not aplplie to mtt&sng Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

     
  15-Apr-14, 01:02   #17
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gufra20 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Peru
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I feel comfortable playing in 4 tables.
I use to see how the tile 4 tables in the window, and so to have a better development in the tables Smile
When I try to play more tables, I despair and I end up making mistakes; why play at most in 4 tables and mosaic mode.

     
  15-Apr-14, 06:26   #18
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pochui 

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Location: Lithuania
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
I made about $0.30/game in profit on average, so that makes $9/hour.
As for the rakeback, even a supernova won't come close to that in rakeback.
1.87VPPs*3,5 (SN multiplier)= 6.55FPPs/game, which equals about 10.5 cents per game (wow, didn't even notice until now it's that much).

yeah it's "only" 1/3 of your average profit, but profit from rakeback has one undoubted quality- it's constant, no upswings no downswings, pretty much as receiving wage from pokerstarz Big Smile

     
  15-Apr-14, 08:55   #19
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
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....I sense a challenge coming on.

Although 60 tables is by no means a regular thing for me, it is definitely doable. And in low level SnG's, where decisions are almost entirely based on the strength of your hand, and not the actions of other players, it's quite easy to not let your game suffer. You have to know how to play certain situations without having to think... but once you've got that down, it's just a case of being comfortable with the speed the hands are coming at you... but for anyone who's ever played 4 zoom tables at a time, it's not much different than that.

So... my challenge:

I will register in 50 $1.50 9 man SnG's and 50 $1.50 18 man SnG's (standard, not turbo... for obvious reasons)
I will play until I am in no more games... with the aim of:
a) Making a profit.... and
b) Being in 50 or more tournaments at a time at some point

I'll do it this weekend...

     
  15-Apr-14, 09:21   #20
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
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I am the worst multi table player in the world and if i have just two tables on the go i get confused. These players who can play many tables at once have my upmost respect for being able to do so. just one for me though!

     
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