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  22-Apr-14, 02:26   #1
Suited cards lovers 0 
pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
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Anybody can explain me the logic in my opionion to many players would call any prefop raise with any two suited cards even all in and worse initiate raise or all in with these cards.Here i am not talking about AK,AQ. AJ, i am talkin about small suited cards i really dont understand this kind of poker. Question Question Question Question Question

     
  22-Apr-14, 03:09   #2
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vic75 
Joined: Sep '10
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Suited connectors are good starting hands but not all in hands A K suited A Q suited those are shovable hands was playing Dollar 100 iron free roll on 888 poker tonight was running deep 21 players left had 9 BB get AK Spade Spade go all in get 1 caller flips over Q Q hit my Ace on the flop another Ace on the turn and wait i knew it was coming a Queen on the river and I'm out oh well that's poker Big Smile Cool Blink

     
  22-Apr-14, 04:32   #3
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MFZERO 
Joined: Oct '12
Location: Canada
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 129
Because fish can't fold.


***** Hand History for Game 13813119606 *****
$0.02/$0.04 USD fastforward NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, April 21, 19:15:17 PDT 2014
Table Supersonic (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 3: Mariuspoppin ( $6.32 USD )
Seat 5: Mr_FN_Zero ( $4.13 USD )
Seat 4: dada1000 ( $2.78 USD )
Seat 1: gamboh ( $6.89 USD )
Seat 6: mezcalona ( $2 USD )
Seat 2: quinna111 ( $8.51 USD )
quinna111 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
Mariuspoppin posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mr_FN_Zero [ 5s 5h ]
dada1000 folds
Mr_FN_Zero raises [$0.12 USD]
mezcalona raises [$0.36 USD]
gamboh folds
quinna111 raises [$1.18 USD]
Mariuspoppin folds
Mr_FN_Zero folds
mezcalona is all-In [$1.64 USD]
quinna111 calls [$0.80 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 2d, 9s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
quinna111 shows [ Kc, 6c ]three of a kind, Sixes.
mezcalona doesn't show [ Qc, Ac ]a pair of Sixes.
quinna111 wins $3.96 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Sixes.



***** Hand History for Game 13813126798 *****
$0.02/$0.04 USD fastforward NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, April 21, 19:34:10 PDT 2014
Table Supersonic (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 5: BUTUCO ( $9.22 USD )
Seat 4: Joker2985 ( $5.66 USD )
Seat 2: Mr_FN_Zero ( $5.64 USD )
Seat 1: RooBoy2121 ( $1.50 USD )
Seat 3: randy11899 ( $5 USD )
Seat 6: xJekylx ( $1.78 USD )
Mr_FN_Zero posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
randy11899 posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mr_FN_Zero [ Kh Qh ]
Joker2985 folds
BUTUCO folds
xJekylx folds
RooBoy2121 calls [$0.04 USD]
Mr_FN_Zero raises [$0.10 USD]
randy11899 folds
RooBoy2121 calls [$0.08 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, Td, Kc ]
Mr_FN_Zero bets [$0.20 USD]
RooBoy2121 calls [$0.20 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
Mr_FN_Zero bets [$0.48 USD]
RooBoy2121 calls [$0.48 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
Mr_FN_Zero bets [$1.17 USD]
RooBoy2121 is all-In [$0.70 USD]
Mr_FN_Zero shows [ Kh, Qh ]a pair of Kings.
RooBoy2121 shows [ Tc, Jc ]a flush, King high.
Mr_FN_Zero wins $0.47 USD from the side pot 1 with a pair of Kings.
RooBoy2121 wins $2.89 USD from the main pot with a flush, King high.


***** 888poker Snap Poker Hand History for Game 302376946 *****
$0.01/$0.02 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 21 04 2014 17:27:17
Table Astana 6 Max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: MFZERO ( $2.41 )
Seat 2: IKaladjiski ( $0.92 )
Seat 4: Dinoboy15 ( $0.96 )
Seat 6: TatsKIN ( $3.73 )
Seat 7: maryus_elf ( $0.86 )
Seat 9: duckghoul2 ( $2.20 )
IKaladjiski posts small blind [$0.01]
Dinoboy15 posts big blind [$0.02]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MFZERO [ Qd, Qc ]
TatsKIN folds
maryus_elf calls [$0.02]
duckghoul2 folds
MFZERO raises [$0.09]
IKaladjiski raises [$0.22]
Dinoboy15 raises [$0.94]
maryus_elf folds
MFZERO calls [$0.87]
IKaladjiski calls [$0.69]
** Dealing flop ** [ 8h, 5s, 6s ]
** Dealing turn ** [ Td ]
** Dealing river ** [ 3s ]
** Summary **
MFZERO shows [ Qd, Qc ]
IKaladjiski shows [ As, Jc ]
Dinoboy15 shows [ 9s, 8s ]
Dinoboy15 collected [ $2.61 ]
Dinoboy15 collected [ $0.08 ]

     
  22-Apr-14, 08:30   #4
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
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Posts: 5547
I fall into this category by calling most pre flop raises with suited connectors. I play these type of cards because you pretty much know where you are post flop and the decision making becomes easier. I do lose quite a lot doing this!!

     
  22-Apr-14, 10:01   #5
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 1854
Posted by vic75:
Suited connectors are good starting hands but not all in hands A K suited A Q suited those are shovable hands


That's the part many people are mistaken.
Suited Connectors often have decent equity against villain's range, especially vs. strong ranges.
Hands like 87s will in % be close to a hand like A10.
Being relativly short you should always prefer shoving mid-suited-connectors over a medium Ax hand, because you'll be very rarely in terrible shape with suited connectors, with Ax on the other hand you'll often find yourself with 25% equity.


     
  22-Apr-14, 15:29   #6
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10026
I can understand shoving a hand or calling an all in with suited connectors.
The one that i cant understand is calling with any suited.
And you see that in too many players. Maybe its because of the filed that im playing in.
But really why calling with T2 suited for example or K5. I dont get it.

     
  22-Apr-14, 15:48   #7
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
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EDIT*nevermind*

     
  22-Apr-14, 16:05   #8
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8638
since i am truly sh1tty poker player i can explain this phenomena from the sh1tty players perspective - i play suited card, any garbage cards like 27o, 36o etc. just because i feel bored and i want to be in the action. i know that it's probably gonna cost me, but wtf? i am here to enjoy myself and to piss myself laughing when i beat some random dude who was waiting for those precious AA's to come for 34 min exactly... Agree

     
  22-Apr-14, 18:10   #9
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
Some people don´t think like you.
They see suited cards and they think, this is a good starting hand, I can make a flush.
That´s why. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  22-Apr-14, 21:05   #10
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teknoboy 
Joined: Nov '09
Location: Poland
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 50
So

I can explain that.

Many players are just feeling awkardly, when they are facing to give up their suited connectors, or even two random suited cards.

The reason is for example: I need to see flop and consider my option, my opponent probably have two strong hands, and it's very likely he don't have two suited clubs too, as mine Agree

So they are calling and calling all the time, hoping to get a flush, even with runner runner flush, calling Yours 3/4 pot bets, getting You on tilt, and then simply write a chat message: well played Worship


So sick ...

Am I right ? Big Smile

     
  22-Apr-14, 21:18   #11
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 3179
aye, i like playing suited connecters as long as it don't cost too much to see the flop.then well you just never know who you can catch if you hit. Smile

     
  22-Apr-14, 21:27   #12
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
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Button, Co and LP you should be playing these if it is not to much to call with, or even a way to trap someone with premiums when they cannot hit. Especially in MTT's when you are a big stack and can afford.

You should not playing them all the time though like most people love to do, only at the right times.

     
  22-Apr-14, 21:29   #13
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Drawacard 

Joined: Feb '14
Location: United Kingdom
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OK - I was playing in a comp earlier... I had about 5 BBs left and was very short stacked... I shoved with A2 suited hoping to get a flush or aces... Someone called me with a pair of 10s and went BALLISTIC.. calling me a fish and a dcik for shoving with such a poor kicker as a 2. ( I won the hand with a straight to a 6... which came in on the river) I know it was a crap hand and I got lucky and I do not usually rise to the bait when people mouth off, but I snapped and balled him out.... I called him some things I probably should have not... But I was annoyed. Angry

Anyway - there you go - I shoved with Ax suited because I was short stacked and about to go out anyway... and I didn't think I'd get much better in the few hands I had left. I may have just flat called the BB if I had more chips to see how the flop played out..

     
  22-Apr-14, 21:35   #14
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callie28 

Joined: Jun '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 1121
I'm guilty of overplaying these,trying to phase it out but i'm on freerolls and low stake,they are not profitable but these Russians are crazy.
In any bigger tourney i play them with caution,if people let me limp in with them then happy days,
doubletop is right,post flop you have it easy,your winning a big pot or folding a bad hand...gl all..
Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile
and doubletop ,you played it right,anything playable if you have 1 chip upto 10 BB then you have to push,well played and good luck... Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile
sorry i meant drawacard

Edited by callie28 (Tuesday, April 22, 2014 @ 21:48 GMT)


     
  22-Apr-14, 22:14   #15
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Drawacard 

Joined: Feb '14
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 242
Thanks callie.. The bloke just annoyed me.. I know I got lucky, but it was the right thing to do - I was expecting to go out that hand... I went out 14 shy of the bubble in the end, but I am still grinding in the Omaha Hi/Lo game I had going.. pos. 3 out of 4 on final table from 191... I only entered it to get into the under the gun freeroll which required entry into any mtt.. lol. I often do alright on 50cent Omaha Hi/Lo.. there is usually one per day. I did get lucky in a couple of early game bingo shoves in that... people don't like it when you raise pre flop in those, but I've found, er, with certain hands.. Blink you can get lucky more often. Blink... especially when it escallates and every shoves.. lol.. you know you are either going out or multiplying your chip stack by 4 or 5.. lol... need a good starting hand to do that though and you need to be prepared to bomb out if you miss the hand, so not advisable too often.
PS - this works better if you've spotted people raising with rubbish alot too. lol

aaaand out in 3rd for about $10. lol. 4 hours for $10 is not great return for time spent, but my bank roll needs it at the moment for more buy ins anyway.. was fun too as I have not been able to play for a couple of days. Big Smile

Edited by Drawacard (Tuesday, April 22, 2014 @ 22:39 GMT)


     
  23-Apr-14, 09:52   #16
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StarinaNovak 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Serbia
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 121
I also like to play suited connectors (QJh is my favorite) either to raise or call some raises.Never call or play all in pre flop with them (special case short stack).Depending on flop further action go on.

These cards can be dangerous for opponent because they usually make raise with strong hands and don't expect to be called with small suited connectors.Make some good pot winnings with them,also some big loses.


     
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