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  2-May-14, 18:38   #1
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vic75 
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I was playing a Full Tilt Leader board today and this happens get A 7 off flops comes A 5 2 i bet the pot and get re raised all in so i call player flips over K J way ahead turn J river J and i lose the hand Confused Confused
so i sit out too watch my all in shootout on Poker Stars come back too Full Tilt after it's over get dealt
A Q Heart Heart i flop the nut flush sitting pretty slow play it other player has K 10 there is a K of Heart on the flop turn a 10 of Diamond giving him two pair and then the magic suck out card on the river 10 of Club giving him a full house and I'm out WTF Confused Confused don't care too much as it is a free roll but makes me think that online poker too a degree is rigged and watching live event Poker on T.V. you rarely see this runner runner thing happen Question Question Confused Confused

     
  3-May-14, 08:27   #2
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crash58 
Joined: Oct '08
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Yea I know , when these things happen , people start to think it's rigged, but I've seen the s**t happen on live poker to, just the way the cards come. Not all the time but it happens.

     
  3-May-14, 08:45   #3
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SiSz 
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You certainly didnt play enough poker yet

     
  3-May-14, 20:32   #4
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vic75 
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Same s**t again today was running deep 46 players left get 77 hit a 7 on the flop and runner runner higher full house Aww crap! Aww crap! Disagree Disagree

     
  3-May-14, 20:49   #5
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Twistyoursou 

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I know the feeling... But variance is part of the game, and you have to think in the long run, you will make a lot of money if you keep getting it in in those situations...

     
  18-May-14, 20:59   #6
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maik357 

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For the Full Tilt Situation A 7 all in is not a good call Confused
For the Poker Stars I would just say That´s poker sorry dude a Lot of skill and a little of luck with good nerves is what makes a good poker Player and including good sportsmanship when the Cards flop bad. Agree Good luck in your next games

     
  19-May-14, 04:13   #7
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pinotte 
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We are playing so much poker that we see all kind of of hands you probably won some of hands that you were suppose to loose?????????????.When poker god is on your side it goes good.But its never fun to loose like that. Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  19-May-14, 19:55   #8
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vic75 
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Same s**t different day get K K in one of these i shove get 2 callers A 10 off A 9 off and the 2 outer hits on the turn can't win anything in free rolls lately not 1 single coin flip when i'm way ahead most of the time man i am glad i only play free rolls lately last 2 days of freerolling have been a complete an utter disaster Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  19-May-14, 20:00   #9
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teddybears73 
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Posted by vic75:
I was playing a Full Tilt Leader board today and this happens get A 7 off flops comes A 5 2 i bet the pot and get re raised all in so i call player flips over K J way ahead turn J river J and i lose the hand Confused Confused
so i sit out too watch my all in shootout on Poker Stars come back too Full Tilt after it's over get dealt
A Q Heart Heart i flop the nut flush sitting pretty slow play it other player has K 10 there is a K of Heart on the flop turn a 10 of Diamond giving him two pair and then the magic suck out card on the river 10 of Club giving him a full house and I'm out WTF Confused Confused don't care too much as it is a free roll but makes me think that online poker too a degree is rigged and watching live event Poker on T.V. you rarely see this runner runner thing happen Question Question Confused Confused


nothing new there Vic,it happens all the time on F.T.
Blink

     
  22-May-14, 16:10   #10
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vic75 
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Same s**t different day get dealt AA raise 4 times the big blind and after everyone shoves i call 5 players all in AA vs KK vs QQ vs 77 vs J9 off and the donkey J9 wins Aww crap! Aww crap! i guess in poker anything can happen i guess that's why they call it Full Tilt Poker because after that hand you probably go on Tilt never going too deposit on this site ever a big joke Thumbs Down Thumbs Down Angry Angry Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  24-May-14, 12:48   #11
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maik357 

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Kenny Rogers sung it and i will requote it, " you got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em", don´t give up so easy i must admit online poker is way differnt than playing live. Evil

     
  24-May-14, 16:30   #12
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DaCapo71 
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Not funny this Kind of runner runner "suckouts". The ft freeroll tourneys have a large time level and it very hard to loose with such a hand after a Long time of playing. Good luck next time.

     
  25-May-14, 07:19   #13
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by vic75:
don't care too much as it is a free roll but makes me think that online poker too a degree is rigged and watching live event Poker on T.V. you rarely see this runner runner thing happen Question Question Confused Confused


A) Why would FTP care whether you won the hand, or some other jerk? Particularly in a freeroll, I don't understand the motive..??

B) I played live poker for years before playing online poker, you see all the same s**t.. I was playing a $20 rebuy at a pub once and this old bloke (in his 80s) knocked me out 4 or 5 times within an hour, with runner runner every time, each time I was 90%+ to win the hand and lost and worst, he kept lecturing me about how good he was and how us young players don't understand the game as well and over-value our big hands and such, cost me about $100 in rebuys and I had to go for a walk outside of the pub for about 20min just so I didn't lose my s**t and start screaming at a senile old man.

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Also, don't play A7 and if you find yourself seeing an Ace high flop with A7, just try and keep the pot as small as possible, the aim being a free/cheap show-down.. Consider, flop is Ace-X-X and you have Ace-7, assuming your opponents bet/call for value, what hands are they playing here that you actually beat? None - all of their value hands are better than yours. How are you ever extracting money on a pair of aces with no kicker? Your opponents either fold because they suspect an ace, or they've hit something better than you. There's simply no value in playing A-rag hands (exceptions exist of course, but just as a general rule).

     
  28-May-14, 16:20   #14
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Statulis 
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jessthehuman,
What are you yammering on 'bout, mate? All that talk 'bout "no value in betting hands without kicker" is only relevant in higher stakes, and even there it isn't a major factor since there are so many aggresive players and just basic fishes even in higher stakes, that just top pair can be very valuable. Dude said he was playing a freeroll, so basically on flop like that every A-6, A-4, A-3, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77, 66 call him more of then than not.

     
  1-Jun-14, 16:14   #15
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Bachir 
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The A7 is usually a bad call but eh, you got unlucky, that's p o k e r.

     
  1-Jun-14, 17:17   #16
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Macubaas 
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You were just unlucky in my opinion, this type of hands you get on all poker games, not just on freerolls...

Since this was a freeroll i do not think that the poker site has any interest on you to lose, so i do not think it's rigged.

     
  1-Jun-14, 17:22   #17
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Heskor 
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
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No it happens more time than not, runner runner can looks to be happening a lot if you play zoom, lots of hands and therefore more chance to see that runner runner coming up, also it hurts more if you are already counting your winnings being a 98 % favourite and then suddenly all changes and you lose. Just play a lot, put in the volume and those things will be things of the past anyway good luck and have fun!

     
  2-Jun-14, 02:15   #18
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vic75 
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Dumb move on my part 6 away from a final table in one of these in the small blind i limp in with 93 off Big Blind checks flop AQ3 i min bet he calls the turn a 9 so got 2 pair i bet pot he shoves i call flips over 33 was thinking maybe A10 no a set and no runner 9 on the river no more chips and i'm out never going too play this hand again should be folded instantly Sleepy Sleepy good night and GL

     
  2-Jun-14, 13:44   #19
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by Statulis:
jessthehuman,
What are you yammering on 'bout, mate? All that talk 'bout "no value in betting hands without kicker" is only relevant in higher stakes, and even there it isn't a major factor since there are so many aggresive players and just basic fishes even in higher stakes, that just top pair can be very valuable. Dude said he was playing a freeroll, so basically on flop like that every A-6, A-4, A-3, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77, 66 call him more of then than not.


Why don't you run a poker tracker for a couple hundred thousand hands and tell me how much value you get from A-6/7/8/9 type hands..

I may be yammering on, but my advice is backed by solid results.

     
  7-Jun-14, 20:02   #20
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vic75 
Joined: Sep '10
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No runner runner b******t in the last couple days of free rolling in these 7th place and a 3rd place playing some good solid poker mixed in with some luck and the all important coin flip wins should crack top 30 with next update GL Big Smile Big Smile Cool Cool Blink Blink

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3 final tables in 2 days Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Cool Cool Cool Blink Blink Blink

Edited by vic75 (Saturday, June 07, 2014 @ 22:11 GMT)


     
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