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  4-May-14, 13:40   #1
Getting worst everyday on JokerStars 0 
PokerKing76 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 746
I can't believe it... look at the big stack how they play... REAL JOKE!!!

PokerStars Hand #115696913778: Tournament #902702797, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level V (60/120) - 2014/05/04 9:34:35 ET
Table '902702797 430' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: DemonWolf76 (1520 in chips)
Seat 2: Filipp400 (1130 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: alyn_2021 (1610 in chips)
Seat 4: alex233893 (7102 in chips)
Seat 5: NASIB77 (4820 in chips)
Seat 6: Dager00 (910 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: beki47 (9450 in chips)
Seat 8: makul1974 (8460 in chips)
Seat 9: eweliniaki83 (6760 in chips)
DemonWolf76: posts the ante 10
Filipp400: posts the ante 10
alyn_2021: posts the ante 10
alex233893: posts the ante 10
NASIB77: posts the ante 10
Dager00: posts the ante 10
beki47: posts the ante 10
makul1974: posts the ante 10
eweliniaki83: posts the ante 10
makul1974: posts small blind 60
eweliniaki83: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DemonWolf76 [9s 9d]
DemonWolf76: raises 120 to 240
Filipp400: folds
alyn_2021: folds
alex233893: folds
NASIB77: raises 240 to 480
Dager00: folds
beki47: folds
makul1974: calls 420
eweliniaki83: calls 360
DemonWolf76: raises 1030 to 1510 and is all-in
NASIB77: raises 3300 to 4810 and is all-in
makul1974: raises 3640 to 8450 and is all-in
eweliniaki83: folds
Uncalled bet (3640) returned to makul1974
*** FLOP *** [6h Ts 7c]
*** TURN *** [6h Ts 7c] 10 of diamonds
*** RIVER *** [6h Ts 7c Td] 7 of diamonds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
makul1974: shows [Tc 5h] (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
NASIB77: shows [Kd As] (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
makul1974 collected 6600 from side pot
DemonWolf76: shows [9s 9d] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
makul1974 collected 5100 from main pot
NASIB77 finished the tournament in 3082nd place
DemonWolf76 finished the tournament in 3083rd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11700 Main pot 5100. Side pot 6600. | Rake 0
Board [6h Ts 7c Td 7d]
Seat 1: DemonWolf76 showed [9s 9d] and lost with two pair, Tens and Nines
Seat 2: Filipp400 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: alyn_2021 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: alex233893 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: NASIB77 showed [Kd As] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 6: Dager00 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: beki47 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: makul1974 (small blind) showed [Tc 5h] and won (11700) with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
Seat 9: eweliniaki83 (big blind) folded before Flop


http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/8784906_0...

If you have LES chip than an ID*** BINGO player please FOLD Aww crap!

     
  4-May-14, 14:11   #2
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xdomagojx 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Croatia
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 399
Ok, look. You are first position you raise 99 which is ok. But then you have a reraise and another all in and you call. Why? You should fold JJ in that spot as well, AQ etc. Cheers.

     
  4-May-14, 15:04   #3
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TheDing1 
Joined: Apr '14
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 8
It's a free roll man its going to be a lot looser, you can't complain about the AK caller, would you have made that same move in a cash game? I can't see it.

     
  4-May-14, 16:02   #4
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DaCapo71 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 1712
I saw so much unbelievable suckouts in the last years at this site and the most another online poker rooms. It was really only a big fake, i never hit only one time a good run and i believe i play solid abc poker with some experience. But i think it is not really a problem, i like this game and play only freerolls and some sats.

     
  4-May-14, 16:56   #5
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
Posts: 913
Yes, you should play looser, but overcalling 2 all in´s (even if you know they are both crazy) with pocket nines isn´t good.
Some people don´t take freerolls seriously and they just "gamble" and sometimes they get lucky.

     
  4-May-14, 17:35   #6
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Heskor 
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 2659
Hi mate, looks like it is just variance and you cannot do anything about that because it is bound to happens and the best way to counter this is to work on your mental game and play a lot. Volume is also key here because it will helps you get used to those swings also if you work on your metal game you will see those things as nothing but variance and can play more and not lose money.

Cheers and good luck mate at the tables!

     
  4-May-14, 20:39   #7
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PixBJelovar 

Joined: Apr '11
Location: Croatia
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 140
bad call prefolp, bad call on flop .bad play lost vs bad starting hand not suprised + it is a freeroll

     
  4-May-14, 22:37   #8
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 3181
Posted by ddblt1970:
Yes, you should play looser, but overcalling 2 all in's (even if you know they are both crazy) with pocket nines isn't good.
Some people don't take freerolls seriously and they just "gamble" and sometimes they get lucky.



I agree
Thumbs Up

     
  4-May-14, 22:53   #9
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fcumred 

Joined: Apr '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 1238
Posted by xdomagojx:
Ok, look. You are first position you raise 99 which is ok. But then you have a reraise and another all in and you call. Why? You should fold JJ in that spot as well, AQ etc. Cheers.


He has 9 BBs left. There is absolutely no way he should raise fold with 99 with that short a stack. In this situation he should have shoved all in pre flop from the off and hope that hands like AK call and you can win a race.

Min raising with 9 BBs out of position and folding is the most stupid thing you can possibly do.

The correct play would be all in pre flop and given that the idiot called with 10-5 there is not a lot you can do about it, you have to just bite the bullet.

     
  5-May-14, 03:00   #10
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PokerKing76 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 746
Thanks for all the reply....

I admit, I make a mistake. When you got no hand for a while you lost concentration...

got 3 final table MTT after that thread Smile Need to return on the basic and be more partient Smile

     
  5-May-14, 05:35   #11
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jovicakralj 

Joined: Nov '10
Location: Serbia
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 2075
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by xdomagojx:
Ok, look. You are first position you raise 99 which is ok. But then you have a reraise and another all in and you call. Why? You should fold JJ in that spot as well, AQ etc. Cheers.


He has 9 BBs left. There is absolutely no way he should raise fold with 99 with that short a stack. In this situation he should have shoved all in pre flop from the off and hope that hands like AK call and you can win a race.

Min raising with 9 BBs out of position and folding is the most stupid thing you can possibly do.

The correct play would be all in pre flop and given that the idiot called with 10-5 there is not a lot you can do about it, you have to just bite the bullet.

+1

He had actually more like 13 blinds, but from tht position with 99 is all in for sure doesnt matter 9 or 13bb. With 15 you can open raise but hardly you can fold and as we can see, he would be mistaken to fold there since he had best hand. With 18+ blinds I would say you can fold to all in and call in that spot. However, someone misread hand. He did not call 2 all ins. He 4bet shoved into 3 guys. Difference is huge. So, if he did not open shoved 99 from utg then he played rest of hand well. Anyway, its freeroll, and that wasnt even bad beat at all. And please dont be angry on 105 guy. You should be happy that kind of people play poker. Yes they win lot of times but that is nature of poker. AK vs AJ wont win 3rd time and 23 will win against AK every 3rd time (so you will win 2 times and lose one) and thats really often! So if you end up having dominating A 100 times you will win 70 times and you will say I GOT HIM. But you will also lose (or chop, which is frustrating almost the same) 30 times. And it will hurt. And you will remember. And you will say: I LOSE ALL THE TIME!
If you like playing poker but you are frustrated thinking its conspiracy against you and its rigged please listen my advice: Buy HOLDEM MANAGER (or similar software). You will have there adjusted $EV and chipEV. If it shows that you lost more then you should, over small example then youre in downswing. If it shows that over HUGE example then youre right! Its JokerStars! Go then to 2+2 and give that data to poker community! I will be first to quit playing poker!
On other side if its shoving you that your winnings are close to EV then you should rethink about odds in poker and quit whining and start improving your game!

     
  5-May-14, 06:42   #12
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8648
i agree with OP - it's getting worst at jokerstars by the day: today is monday and i can testify that today is far worse on jokerstars than it was on sunday, and we can't even compare situation that was on jokerstars on sunday with complete bullsh1t that was witnessed on jokerstars on saturday... man when is it gonna stop Confused

     
  5-May-14, 09:39   #13
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Given the way you played, I'd be pretty embarrassed to post this hand!

Forget your opponents play; if you play this bad, of course you're losing all the time!

     
  6-May-14, 01:08   #14
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gitmurray 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Ireland
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 10
pocket nines is just a pair of nines at the end of the day id fold nines preflop all day wouldnt expect to win many hands with them

     
  26-Jun-14, 23:52   #15
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milan_timko 
Joined: Jul '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 82
Lol got a more better jokerstars moment. Was playing Sit&Go 9players.
I had AK suited, the big stack holder in early position raised to 800 when blinds were 50-100. I went all in he called with 7 3..
What happens on jokerstars? Indeed on the river a 3
Bah bah, every time on pokerstars you can feel it that on the river you'll be beaten

     
  27-Jun-14, 00:45   #16
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vic75 
Joined: Sep '10
Location: Canada
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1962
You played it right if the donk player with 105 folds then you win the hand simple as that the only other way too play it is too shove pre flop it's a free roll so expect people too shove with garbage had similar thing happen too me on 888 poker free roll get 1010 i call a shove player flips over 66 and a miracle straight on the river that's poker and s**t happens GL

     
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