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  13-Jul-14, 21:47   #1
Thoughts on this hand please 0 
IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
BRM $200 Freeroll, 26 started, 6 paid. I think about 10 left when this happened.

ddblt1957 ($9,654.00)
florealli ($20,396.00)
legal-777 ($3,340.00)
mozart762 ($9,572.00)
IceQueenAce ($12,602.00)
cougars999 ($9,073.00)
danny.is.no1 ($9,355.00)
lost conection ($7,008.00)

IceQueenAce dealt [4H, 3S]
ANTES/BLINDS;
IceQueenAce posts ante $40.00, florealli posts ante $40.00, lost conection posts ante $40.00, cougars999 posts ante $40.00, mozart762 posts ante $40.00, ddblt1957 posts ante $40.00, legal-777 posts ante $40.00, danny.is.no1 posts ante $40.00, danny.is.no1 posts small blind $200.00, IceQueenAce posts big blind $400.00.
PRE-FLOP;
florealli folds, lost conection folds, cougars999 calls $400.00, mozart762 folds, ddblt1957 folds, legal-777 folds, danny.is.no1 calls $200.00, IceQueenAce checks.
FLOP; [5H, 2S, 2C]
danny.is.no1 checks, IceQueenAce checks, cougars999 checks.
TURN; [5H, 2S, 2C, AS]
danny.is.no1 checks, IceQueenAce bets $1,140.00, cougars999 calls $1,140.00, danny.is.no1 folds.
RIVER; [5H, 2S, 2C, AS, KS]
IceQueenAce checks, cougars999 checks.

was my check on river ok?

I have a feeling I played this hand bad, especially early on. I never knew where i was in it really, and could have been pushed off pot.

Advice please

Edited by IceQueenAce (Sunday, July 13, 2014 @ 21:48 GMT)


     
  13-Jul-14, 22:05   #2
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 21 (M)
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The flop is clear check/fold, the turn is a clear lead, the river is a clear bet/fold. (I would do a half pot bet so aces and kings can call)

     
  13-Jul-14, 22:31   #3
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Samarietis 
Joined: Feb '12
Location: Latvia
Age: 23 (M)
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Betting on turn and then checking on river ?!?!?!

As i guess there are amateur players at thoses freerolls , you definetly lost a value bet on river , as by the way he played hes hand an A with a bad eather midle kicker would be the hand that he would have there , as if he called the turn wich was an ace , he probably was not going to just fold a value bet on turn like that , but you couldn't make a huge one , as if there would be a smarter guy he could easly make a reraise all in , as i think you are feeling that it's a weak hand and you could fold to that ...

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  13-Jul-14, 23:39   #4
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pinotte 
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You dont say why you did not bet the river. Is it cause you were affraid off a full or it was a check raise.Cougar check the river too so i imagine that he would have fold on a bet. So you cant say if its a good or bad call. Question Question Question Question Question Question Question

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  14-Jul-14, 04:16   #5
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IceQueenAce 
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Posted by pinotte:
You dont say why you did not bet the river. Is it cause you were affraid off a full or it was a check raise.Cougar check the river too so i imagine that he would have fold on a bet. So you cant say if its a good or bad call. Question Question Question Question Question Question Question



I actually felt he had hit a flush, hence the check to keep the pot small. I would have called a small bet but folded to a big one. With flush and fullhouse chances on board I did think I was behind.
I felt if I bet and he reraised me, I would have to fold anyway.

I also feel the fact he checked as irrelavent. I could only make the decision based on what I thought he has/would do.
By saying it was a bad check would be results orientated and I hate that.


     
  14-Jul-14, 04:25   #6
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greatgame3 

Joined: Mar '11
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hi, I think that the hand was not so bad played your turn bet was not great and the check could induce the other player to try to steal the pot.

thanks for letting me be part of this community and please excuse my English and my writing errors

Greetings greatgamne

     
  14-Jul-14, 05:04   #7
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shokaku 

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As there was no bet preflop or on the flop no one can know where he stands in that hand. Check at the river may be weak, but i can understand it. Didn't want to see a raise here.

     
  14-Jul-14, 08:06   #8
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ddblt1970 
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Check raise on river is an overplay of this hand imo.

     
  14-Jul-14, 08:10   #9
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
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I think it's okay how you played it, indeed betting on turn and checking on river is not that common...

But lets say you would have bet on river, if villain would have raised, the situation was pretty clear...

     
  14-Jul-14, 09:04   #10
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
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Posted by ddblt1970:
Check raise on river is an overplay of this hand imo.


i would have check called or check folded, i wouldnt have raised this

     
  14-Jul-14, 12:27   #11
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
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Posted by ddblt1970:
The flop is clear check/fold


What

     
  14-Jul-14, 13:09   #12
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
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He did not have proper odds to call a flush draw, with your turn bet; but maybe it was combined with an Ace or a 2?

I do think that the hands that you beat, that would call a small river bet, out way the value lost when you fold to an all in. I suppose it depends, on what type of player he is (does he check reraise all in on the river as a bluff?), and what type of player you are (do you steal the pot often on the river?).

     
  14-Jul-14, 13:12   #13
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
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Disagree with all the line you kept, except for preflop one.

I would bet something between 50%-75% pot either flop turn and river here

Answering your question regarding river play I don't like your check either: you would fold to a strong raise also checking it but you won't get paid by all aces in play

     
  14-Jul-14, 14:28   #14
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ddblt1970 
Joined: Aug '13
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by ddblt1970:
The flop is clear check/fold


What


Oh, my bad, I thought it was a gutshot,
open ended you can both lead or check/call a reasonably big bet, but I wouldn´t put all the money in there, because it is a paired board.

Edited by ddblt1970 (Monday, July 14, 2014 @ 14:32 GMT)


     
  17-Jul-14, 09:21   #15
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
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I do think that you missed an opportunity to get another street of value on the river. If he calls the turn, the likelihood is that he will call the river as well. But at least you won the hand so no harm really done

     
  17-Jul-14, 09:28   #16
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
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If opponent just calls the river everything is gold. The problems start if he raises our river bet. The board is paired and a flushdraw came in. Opponent can have a better hand, or at least represent a better hand.

     
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