The J-boys are pretty far from being an unbeatable hand, so throwing pre-flop all-ins with it not going to get you far since both times there wasn't much of a limping that needed a trim down. And being ahead 80-20 is always going to mean that you will definitely loose one situation out of every five against middle pockets. It's standard, nothing to see here.
Joined: May '13
Age: 25 (M)
Just play as what you feel like, in the micro millions i tends to take some money out of the bank and use it for fun and play like a crazy donkey hoping to hit the jackpot but it never does sadly still i have fun at the events but every year i lose some money at this time of the year because of the micro millions, i play just a few events but with huge buyings compare to my rolls, i think i should play more tables with less buyins. Anyway shits happens and hopefully you get a good run and what happened, you win?
Posted by yout85: Sorry bowie, but that's an irrelevant comment...
Both times the all-in was the correct play. The call with pocket 9s was optimistic at best, and poor at worst.
And no.... being 80/20 does not mean you will "definitely lose one in five"
Bravo sir! 10/10. Top Kek! There is no such a thing as irrevelant comment, but if your mission is to further lay yourself open to ridicule I'm not going to stop you next time. Keep throwing around those pre-flop allins with these kind of hands in these kind of situations! +EV all the time
Joined: Mar '09
Age: 40 (F)
In general JJ is the worst hand for me in terms of winning hands going all in preflop. I have more success with lower hands than JJ. You got even with your two all ins You won the first one on river and lost it afterwards. Better luck next time.
Keep throwing around those pre-flop allins with these kind of hands in these kind of situations! +EV all the time
Sorry bowie but you're way off line here - both hands are easy shoves pre
Why would I want 2 play coinflips in the middle levels of a tourey? With 28 and 21 BB we are right where we supposed to be. No need to play like theres no tomorrow... If we put the opponents top 5-6% on both situations we are barely ahead. Going into setmine mode cheaply (with these jacks) would be my preferred play here, but I guessing I am too stupid for this game.
Maybe the first one is a good re-steal, but the second one definitely didn't worth it where we even give the bigstack behind us good odds to make a call with plenty lesser hands.
Edited by bowie1984 (Saturday, July 19, 2014 @ 16:27 GMT)
Joined: Feb '11
Age: 24 (M)
Why would you put them on 5-6%? That's far too tight, especially in the 2nd hand. In the first hand as well, the raise can be just an iso-raise, doesn't necessarilyhave to be a top hand, a raise also makes sense with A9 there for him. In the 2nd hand villain should be opening down to hands like T9s, all depending on table dynamics obv, but by default it'd be the case.
Setmining is IMO out of question, in both hands the effective stacks are too shallow to play the hand solely to setmine. Plus, we are ahead of both ranges, and the deadmoney is already very attracting for our stack.
The only thing we can do except shoving is 3betting small and try to get villain to spew off. However, if villain is horrible chances are he's gonna flat us and we have to play it out postflop, which is not what I'd like to achieve with JJ and such stacks.