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  24-Jul-14, 17:28   #1
email to PokerStars.... 0 
demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
...just HAD to send one for old times' sake...

I scanned through the entrants list in the 1:00pm Eastern BankrollMob/PS tourney just for the heck of it to see if PS ever did anything about all the cheating parasitic cockroaches,....who usually get the password from Facebook or wherever... apparently not....


Dear PokerStars...

Please remove this parasitic cheater who plays at least 9 or more tables at once... He plays one until he loses,...then shfts to another and so on...

THROW him off PokerStars forever for cheating...!!! You'll have to search for the other numbers in the sequnce...


rmrietveld (Netherlands)

rmrietveld14

Rmrietveld15

Rmrietveld16

rmrietveld18

Rmrietveld5

rmrietveld2

rmrietveld3

rmrietveld4


Thanks!

(demodawggy)

Edited by demodawggy (Thursday, July 24, 2014 @ 17:29 GMT)


     
  24-Jul-14, 17:43   #2
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mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 2367
Just goes to show, don't fcuk with Beaker.

     
  24-Jul-14, 18:13   #3
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682



     
  24-Jul-14, 18:41   #4
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10039
I believe that they have started ignoring your emails.
You will need some help in the future for a serious matters with
yourself, in the future, and you wont be able to reach them lol.

There is no way they dont know what is going on there.
Obviously the have a way to deal with this, at some point.

     
  24-Jul-14, 18:45   #5
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
Posted by Mober:
I believe that they have started ignoring your emails.
You will need some help in the future for a serious matters with
yourself, in the future, and you wont be able to reach them lol.

There is no way they dont know what is going on there.
Obviously the have a way to deal with this, at some point.



You don't find this on Full Tilt or Party,...so obviously PS doesn't WANT to deal with it....

Here's their reply,....which is standard....

Hello

Thank you for your concern.

PokerStars' policy on players with duplicate accounts is very straightforward. Players are permitted one account only at PokerStars. We believe that players who access more than one account compromise the integrity of our games.

Please rest assured that we will examine these accounts and take proper action according to our Terms of Service, available for review at the following link:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos

It is our policy not to comment to third parties about the accounts of other users due to privacy reasons, but we welcome reports such as these. They help us maintain our high standards for game integrity.

Thank you for your report, and thank you for choosing PokerStars!

Regards,

Bruno S
PokerStars Support Team


     
  24-Jul-14, 18:50   #6
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10039
Maybe they have a different system there and you arent able to open multiple accounts
the way it happens in POker Stars.
But indeed it is something you dont come up to in othe sites.
amybe becasue such freerolls dont exist?

     
  24-Jul-14, 21:27   #7
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 3181
Posted by demodawggy:
...just HAD to send one for old times' sake...

I scanned through the entrants list in the 1:00pm Eastern BankrollMob/PS tourney just for the heck of it to see if PS ever did anything about all the cheating parasitic cockroaches,....who usually get the password from Facebook or wherever... apparently not....


Dear PokerStars...

Please remove this parasitic cheater who plays at least 9 or more tables at once... He plays one until he loses,...then shfts to another and so on...

THROW him off PokerStars forever for cheating...!!! You'll have to search for the other numbers in the sequnce...


rmrietveld (Netherlands)

rmrietveld14

Rmrietveld15

Rmrietveld16

rmrietveld18

Rmrietveld5

rmrietveld2

rmrietveld3

rmrietveld4


Thanks!

(demodawggy)



You don't give up mate do you
Big Smile Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

     
  25-Jul-14, 00:30   #8
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pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 73 (M)
Posts: 3495
There is one think i dont understand. Why would someeone would open many accoutns with the same name the only advantage i see is having multiple entry in MTT you can have multiple entry in fast poker and some tournaments on Full Tilt. I dont see any advantage in ring games or SNG.
Multiple entry in MTT would most of the time cost you more money and dont be ITM. Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused

     
  25-Jul-14, 10:19   #9
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LIKEIT27 
Joined: Jul '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 704
There must be something intresting for him,
Cant imagine why else he have so many acc Big Smile

     
  25-Jul-14, 10:33   #10
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Posted by pinotte:
Multiple entry in MTT would most of the time cost you more money and dont be ITM. Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused



Freerolls..


Posted by pinotte:
I dont see any advantage in ring games or SNG. Confused Confused Confused


Are you serious? There's a huge advantage to having multiple entries into a ring game / SNG.

     
  25-Jul-14, 12:12   #11
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (F)
Posts: 2243
Loved the email demodawggy Smile
If the account names you have listed are correct then surely if pokerstars had even the most simple of security checks then they would have found them.Obviously they have not which must mean they do not care about multiple accounts.
If players are having multiple accounts to play freerolls then maybe pokerstars know that these type of players must be losers over time so are quite happy to have them playing as many accounts as possible.
If this player ever wins big the site always has an added bonus of refusing to pay out because they multiple accounts. Smile

     
  25-Jul-14, 15:30   #12
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pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 73 (M)
Posts: 3495
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by pinotte:
Multiple entry in MTT would most of the time cost you more money and dont be ITM. Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused



Freerolls..


Posted by pinotte:
I dont see any advantage in ring games or SNG. Confused Confused Confused


Are you serious? There's a huge advantage to having multiple entries into a ring game / SNG.


Would you play ring game or SNG with 3 others players with the same name

If yes i wonder who is serious. Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused

     
  25-Jul-14, 15:44   #13
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Posted by pinotte:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by pinotte:
Multiple entry in MTT would most of the time cost you more money and dont be ITM. Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused



Freerolls..


Posted by pinotte:
I dont see any advantage in ring games or SNG. Confused Confused Confused


Are you serious? There's a huge advantage to having multiple entries into a ring game / SNG.


Would you play ring game or SNG with 3 others players with the same name

If yes i wonder who is serious. Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused



Aah - yeah, sorry - I missed that you said 'with the same name'. Yeah, that is really stupid - it's really mind-boggling that people could be stupid enough to create additional accounts with nearly identical names.

And yeah, sorry again, I misread your post - and I though you were saying you couldn't see an advantage to have multiple accounts in a Ring/SNG table.

     
  25-Jul-14, 17:35   #14
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Heskor 
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 2659
It could be just coincidence like the name smith in English, there are many people who will have that name and you will see smith1, smith15 a lot as these are common, just try to register an email and you will see how many people uses the same name. And pokerstars has a huge player base so obviously there will be name who are the same, and we can have the wrong impression that these are the same people and think some shady things are happening in the poker World and so on. Anyway good luck at the poker tables and hope you win some money in the freerolls!

     
  25-Jul-14, 18:03   #15
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xgcsnippy 

Joined: Jan '13
Location: Canada
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 1066
What are the odds though of all those people with the similar name register for the same tournament...I agree with demo here that something is not right, I have managed to create multiple accounts on pokerstars however other sites wont allow 2 accounts from the same ip address, so if they did this they could eliminate alot of crap like this. A switch and a couple ip addresses would defeat this somewhat but it would limit things.


     
  25-Jul-14, 18:07   #16
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4862
Posted by Heskor:
It could be just coincidence like the name smith in English, there are many people who will have that name and you will see smith1, smith15 a lot as these are common, just try to register an email and you will see how many people uses the same name. And pokerstars has a huge player base so obviously there will be name who are the same, and we can have the wrong impression that these are the same people and think some shady things are happening in the poker World and so on. Anyway good luck at the poker tables and hope you win some money in the freerolls!


Yep. What Heskor says. It is always but fairly remotely impossible that such a name could exist by chance and appear at the same time in the same game. Life is grossly unfair and there is always someone trying to squeeze an advantage in any way they can. Keep up the good work demo and we'll spotted.

     
  25-Jul-14, 19:05   #17
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10039
If they have the option to see what country is every one from in Poker Stars like
in other sites, then it is easy to see if the same names are actually the sam player.
In the above example from demo it is hard all these to be from the same country
for exampl and not be at least one same player.

     
  25-Jul-14, 22:36   #18
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
Posted by klash23:
If this player ever wins big the site always has an added bonus of refusing to pay out because they multiple accounts. Smile




Now THERE's an angle I never thought of before,...nor has been mentioned in previous threads about these cockroach infestations particular to PokerStars... I'm sure PokerStars would certainly refuse to pay out,...and rightly so... Dollar Thumbs Up

I'll have to look at the same tourney tomorrow to see if the guy has been removed... They ARE good at removing them once you bring them to PS's attention... Smile

     
  26-Jul-14, 00:01   #19
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
Are these emails really helpful? I still haven't read any answer from them thanking someone for doing this job for them. Will they at least pay more atention to those nicks activity? I hope so but i don't know if that happens. Don't forget to tells us if they respond you!

     
  26-Jul-14, 10:50   #20
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 1854
Posted by Fakiry:
Are these emails really helpful? I still haven't read any answer from them thanking someone for doing this job for them. Will they at least pay more atention to those nicks activity? I hope so but i don't know if that happens. Don't forget to tells us if they respond you!


Of course they do help, and they are thankful for such discoveries. I once discovered a group of 4 german bots that played $7-$15 SNGs quite profitably (about 10% ROI, over a course of about 150K SNGs total, you can do the math), solely by analyzing their HUD stats with HEM and by analyzing their sharkscope (they all haven't opted in (again a suspecious fact when all 4 of these aren't opted in), but you can partly see some informations).
It took stars 1 1/2 months to come up with a reply (they needed deep investigations themself), but end of the story was that the accounts were closed and all remaining funds were distributed based on the % of play a player had against these accounts.
Usually you only get refunded if you have lost money vs. these accounts. I was actually up overall, but because I had come up with the idea that these accounts might be bots I got a refund of about $80.

     
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