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  20-Aug-14, 19:46   #1
Freerolls: Big Stacks best mates with Lady luck -1 
Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
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Anyone else notice how 90% of the time big stacks always suck out in freerolls when they are beaten and against smaller stacks? The amount of times I have seen it happen or has happened to me is astonishing. I am not bounding about the rigged word but it is quite fishy.

Is this just me with my conspiracy tin foil hat on or do some of you see this a lot as well?

     
  20-Aug-14, 21:01   #2
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compfixer77 
Joined: Aug '11
Location: Canada
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 35
cant agree with you more, and poker stars is the worst

     
  20-Aug-14, 21:43   #3
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
Anyone notice how 50% of people say the big stack always sucks out and 50% of the people say the short stack always sucks out?

Seriously I've seen both claims made in equal measure. They can't both be right, chances are neither of them is.

     
  20-Aug-14, 22:19   #4
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LIKEIT27 
Joined: Jul '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 704
Lol sooo its Rigged?
Cmon you guys are a joke 50 % bla bla..
Last few days i come so close to final tables and not a few player 5000
buy-ins 2$ to 5$ and today again got sucked out q/q vs 10/10
He raise i go all-in he calls river 10 ..
And this gos on for a while now best hand loose..
But it happens you play 3/4 hours turbo and the cards have to fall good most of the part otherwise game over today at live game ept event reaichard k/k raise busquet gos all-in ..
Instacall flop 8/8/k 1 % change for busquet turn A busquet 5% change off winning ...
River A Shock Shock Shock Shock Shock Shock
Thats poker take it ore leave it..
I am writing this and i just lost a huge hand and almost reacht the FT

And u play freerolls and say its rigged Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  20-Aug-14, 22:22   #5
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
I tend to agree with Mr. zero on this one...!

...To say that the cards fall other than totally randomly,...which I believe is the case,...is to say that PokerStars and the other sites are cheating you,...which I believe is not to be the case....!

There has been some shennannigans in the past,...and I'm sure there will be some to come...but to think that cheating folks is PS's business model,...well....I just doubt it... Smile Thumbs Up

     
  20-Aug-14, 22:26   #6
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
Posted by LIKEIT27:
Lol sooo its Rigged?
Cmon you guys are a joke 50 % bla bla..


I'm the only one who mentioned 50% so I'm going to assume that was aimed at me as well. If you care to read what I said I'm saying it isn't rigged.

     
  20-Aug-14, 22:30   #7
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LIKEIT27 
Joined: Jul '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 704
Posted by zeroster:
Posted by LIKEIT27:
Lol sooo its Rigged?
Cmon you guys are a joke 50 % bla bla..


I'm the only one who mentioned 50% so I'm going to assume that was aimed at me as well. If you care to read what I said I'm saying it isn't rigged.



Nah chill man i read all of it..
Its not you, ok the 50 % you mentioned , i used because they people tell you this nonsense and you dont bellieve it Right
Blink Blink

     
  20-Aug-14, 22:30   #8
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
Posted by LIKEIT27:
Lol sooo its Rigged?
Cmon you guys are a joke 50 % bla bla..
Last few days i come so close to final tables and not a few player 5000
buy-ins 2$ to 5$ and today again got sucked out q/q vs 10/10
He raise i go all-in he calls river 10 ..
And this gos on for a while now best hand loose..
But it happens you play 3/4 hours turbo and the cards have to fall good most of the part otherwise game over today at live game ept event reaichard k/k raise busquet gos all-in ..
Instacall flop 8/8/k 1 % change for busquet turn A busquet 5% change off winning ...
River A Shock Shock Shock Shock Shock Shock
Thats poker take it ore leave it..
I am writing this and i just lost a huge hand and almost reacht the FT

And u play freerolls and say its rigged Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile


If you actually read my opening message you would have seen I said I was not using the word rigged. It's just a discussion question not a bitching thread.

@Zeroster

True, but I see them less than big stacks guess, but it could be happening more to other people so I guess 50/50 could be right.

     
  20-Aug-14, 22:33   #9
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LIKEIT27 
Joined: Jul '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 704
Posted by Phisix:
Posted by LIKEIT27:
Lol sooo its Rigged?
Cmon you guys are a joke 50 % bla bla..
Last few days i come so close to final tables and not a few player 5000
buy-ins 2$ to 5$ and today again got sucked out q/q vs 10/10
He raise i go all-in he calls river 10 ..
And this gos on for a while now best hand loose..
But it happens you play 3/4 hours turbo and the cards have to fall good most of the part otherwise game over today at live game ept event reaichard k/k raise busquet gos all-in ..
Instacall flop 8/8/k 1 % change for busquet turn A busquet 5% change off winning ...
River A Shock Shock Shock Shock Shock Shock
Thats poker take it ore leave it..
I am writing this and i just lost a huge hand and almost reacht the FT

And u play freerolls and say its rigged Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile


If you actually read my opening message you would have seen I said I said I was using the word rigged. It's just a discussion question not a bitching thread. idiot.

@Zeroster

True, but I see them less than big stacks guess, but it could be happening more to other people so I guess 50/50 could be right.


Its not a discussion...
Because there isnt anything to discus about this matter..
You just whining because you get kicked out off a freeroll Blink
And plz dont call me a idiot again Smile

     
  20-Aug-14, 22:36   #10
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
Posted by LIKEIT27:
Nah chill man i read all of it..
Its not you, ok the 50 % you mentioned , i used because they people tell you this nonsense and you dont bellieve it Right
Blink Blink


No worries Smile


     
  20-Aug-14, 22:37   #11
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LIKEIT27 
Joined: Jul '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 704
Posted by Phisix:
I am not bounding about the rigged word but it is quite fishy.

Is this just me with my conspiracy tin foil hat on or do some of you see this a lot as well?


Tongue

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Posted by zeroster:
Posted by LIKEIT27:
Nah chill man i read all of it..
Its not you, ok the 50 % you mentioned , i used because they people tell you this nonsense and you dont bellieve it Right
Blink Blink


No worries Smile



Cool
Smile

     
  20-Aug-14, 22:57   #12
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Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
I said its fishy not rigged. Its called an opinion. Yes my first post clearly states I am winging. Its a freeroll who cares if you get knocked out. I was just asking whether anyone else noticed these things or it was just me.

If I was winging you would know I invented the word Tongue

     
  20-Aug-14, 23:03   #13
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LIKEIT27 
Joined: Jul '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 704
Posted by Phisix:
I said its fishy not rigged. Its called an opinion. Yes my first post clearly states I am winging. Its a freeroll who cares if you get knocked out. I was just asking whether anyone else noticed these things or it was just me.

If I was winging you would know I invented the word Tongue



Sooo now you know Mine.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... opinion Blink Big Smile

     
  21-Aug-14, 06:58   #14
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GoTrixo 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Germany
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 163
Endless discussion. What about oh the donks always get rewarded even if they played the hand completely wrong. Those are just things that we must deal with. And you cant let them affect your mood or attitude. Its pointless. And the outcome is same.

     
  21-Aug-14, 08:40   #15
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djpremier 
Joined: Dec '10
Location: Finland
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 419
I always try to pick up the blinds in the first hand and then as I have the biggest stack on the table I just go all in every hand and whenever I get called im 90% favorite due to bigger stack Thumbs Up freerolls are so easy Agree .........

     
  21-Aug-14, 09:12   #16
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 2016
It's all just a matter of perspective...

If a big stack sucks out on a smaller stack, it's game over for Mr Small Stack... If the small stack sucks out on the big one, the game carries on for Mr Big Stack.

Nobody pays attention when it's the small stack doing the sucking out, but always notice when the big stack does.


Then a lot of the time, the big stack is making a correct play % wise by shoving - If they happen to get called by a better hand and win, then so be it... it happens.

     
  21-Aug-14, 09:39   #17
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 5552
You do see a lot of these big stacks busting but i think that most of these big stacks have accrued their chips by playing so recklessly and carefree that they were bound to run out of luck at sometime during the tournament

     
  21-Aug-14, 12:01   #18
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (F)
Posts: 2243
I have seen this kind of discussion many times on forums and have yet to see anyone with any proof or stats to back up the claim so maybe the next time someone is playing a freeroll with a massive field they should write down the results of the allins at their table and let us know.
I recently was heads up with someone,after a big allin he was left with about half an ante so he just left the table,it took me about 12 hands to finish him off so big stacks don't always win.

     
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