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  2-Sep-14, 20:58   #1
Stupid deal or? 0 
qzmag 
Joined: Nov '11
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So a huge jackpot. $50 Jackpot SNG just hit 2000x . $100.000. 2 normal players and a pro. The pro raised at first and he didn't wanted a deal. He wanted $64.000 to make a deal. Then after some hands, he was 1st with 600+ another one with 280 and someone with 500+. So the one with 280 chips as SB made a raise and 500+ chips as BB raised all-in. SB called. KJo vs QJs. BB won, he is now 1st place with chips and 2 players to play for $90.000.
The deal at 1st time, was to take the 1st one ( the non-pro player ) $35k and the pro player $65k. ( the non-player said it. Then he refuses, he wanted more, $40k. The pro player said $38k, and then he said $39k, and the non-pro player agreed. Confused

Honestly if i was in that position, i would have pressured the pro-player. "I was chip leader. So why would i take with 12k less than him? Only because he is a pro? You want more money? Fine, let's play for it. If i would have managed to drop him enouth he would have come and try to make a deal. cause from $60k to $15k it's big gap. Another thing. If you want to take more money than me, fine, let's make a deal split the mothey let's say $35k-$30k cause i am chip leader. And play for the rest $25k." He is a pro player so....
That's the way i would have put it, if the euphoria, of playing for $90.000 would not stop me.


How would have you make the deal?


Have a nice day / night and GL.

     
  2-Sep-14, 21:05   #2
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IceQueenAce 
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I think for that kind of money, whilst we can all sit here and say what we would and wouldn't do, I think that we would only know for sure if we were in that position.

Personally I think the pro was an ass but I also think I would have dealt for that kind of money

     
  2-Sep-14, 21:19   #3
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yout85 
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The Pro was using his Pro-status to bully the non-Pro...

Like IQA says, it's hard to be sure... but I think I would've demanded at least 50/50 or said "fine then - we'll play for it". The Pro has no edge in that game at that stage - Pro or not.

The Pro would've been idiotic to turn down a take it or leave it 50/50

     
  2-Sep-14, 21:22   #4
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qzmag 
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You can see them in the $50 Jackpot SNG Lobby. the 1st 3 players. There was another pro player who watched the game. After the deal was made, he was like few times " WTF " "WTF" ? He didn't understood either the guy who accepted $39k as a deal when he was chip leader.

Have a nice day / night and GL.

     
  2-Sep-14, 21:38   #5
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teddybears73 
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i suppose 39k is very good in the grand scheme of things for the non-pro,what was the standard payout or was it winner takes all,if it was the latter i'd probably have dealt myself. Smile

     
  2-Sep-14, 21:42   #6
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IceQueenAce 
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It is an insane amount of money still though.

A bit like 'deal or no deal' I guess.

Put in lower stakes money, you sit with $5 and the jackpot takes it to $10,000 and so 39% is $3900.
Now, I am a winning player and I have grinded for 2 years to get to a bankroll of $1000. In one game I can turn that bankroll from $1000 to $4900.
Now consider I am playing to pay for a wedding that will cost $4900.

How can I turn that down?

$39,000 is only 39% of $100,000 but it is more than 50% of nothing. And you are only ever two hands away from losing.

I would have been well annoyed at taking only 39%, but I think it would be the only thing I could have done.



     
  2-Sep-14, 22:17   #7
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yout85 
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I still say, put the Pro in a position where he SIMPLY HAS TO do the right thing.

The more I think of it, the more certain I am that's what I would've done.

     
  3-Sep-14, 02:48   #8
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pinotte 
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Posted by IceQueenAce:
It is an insane amount of money still though.

A bit like 'deal or no deal' I guess.

Put in lower stakes money, you sit with $5 and the jackpot takes it to $10,000 and so 39% is $3900.
Now, I am a winning player and I have grinded for 2 years to get to a bankroll of $1000. In one game I can turn that bankroll from $1000 to $4900.
Now consider I am playing to pay for a wedding that will cost $4900.

How can I turn that down?

$39,000 is only 39% of $100,000 but it is more than 50% of nothing. And you are only ever two hands away from losing.
You are right its only two hands. I know i played the game at lower level and i lost being chip leader.
I would have been well annoyed at taking only 39%, but I think it would be the only thing I could have done.



Dont forget that the looser is getting $15,000.00 ok 39 is 24% plus but you are the chip leader i think he was in a better position to negociate.

But really i dont know what would have done if the other do not want negociation.
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Edited by pinotte (Wednesday, September 03, 2014 @ 02:55 GMT)


     
  3-Sep-14, 05:51   #9
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DDPascalDD 
Joined: Jan '14
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If the pro would ask me that I'd say no first. I'm the chipleader, you are a pro, so let's take both 40% and play for the rest of the money.
That seems fair and acceptable for me.

     
  3-Sep-14, 08:25   #10
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jeffaboy 
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
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I would not say it is stupid as this player got a huge x his BI but i would not have dealt this way i think if i was him :X because he had the chiplead and even tho the other guy might be a pro that does not instantly give him an edge in this game so i think they should have dealt a bit and played for the other bit or just played for it all and chip down the pro

     
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