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  11-Oct-14, 17:51   #1
That Final Table Feeling 0 
Phisix 

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Currently in the Party Poker $250 status points buy in freeroll type MTT and I have that feeling that I will be 99% reaching the final table. Everything has been going right this whole tourny including my A game and coin flips against smaller stacks for a change and it is currently 26/384 and I was just 1st with 121k but now 2nd with a 30k lead over third.

Not going to get carried away yet as anything can happen but if I keep tight and waiting to exploit then my stack should be enough to get me there to repair the bankroll I busted being an idiot the other day on PP.

Usually when I run this deep and good I dribble away my stack or lose to crap but its been a good one. Wish me luck!

Edited by Phisix (Saturday, October 11, 2014 @ 17:52 GMT)


     
  11-Oct-14, 18:00   #2
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Twistyoursou 

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Keep us updated on that. Whats payout for 1st? 100$? Good luck Big Smile

     
  11-Oct-14, 18:08   #3
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Phisix 

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$56.95 for 1st place and I would be happy with a 7th place minimum finish as that is $10 which is what I lost, but I intend to win this thing.

16 left and I am still third with 121k...could have been on 200k but lost in a three way all in against A7o and 44 with my 1010. Ace always comes down haha.

     
  11-Oct-14, 18:13   #4
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teddybears73 
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That's the way to go positive thinking Phisix Thumbs Up
just be careful and keep it going and you will take it down mate, Thumbs Up Smile

     
  11-Oct-14, 18:14   #5
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Phisix 

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One more to go and it's a 10 man final table and I am 3rd with 155k. Should be on for a top three finish if I am lucky.

     
  11-Oct-14, 18:22   #6
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IceQueenAce 
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take it down mate

     
  11-Oct-14, 18:23   #7
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Twistyoursou 

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Shut up about that top three finish. You're going to take it home Big Smile Ship it

     
  11-Oct-14, 18:24   #8
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Phisix 

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Course I will win it. Blink

8 left and I am still fourth. Could have been 7 left but some guy hit a lucky 9 on the turn to hit a set, but took a competitor near me down from my stack.

     
  11-Oct-14, 18:31   #9
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klash23 
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Good luck.How are doing now or have you finished?I was going to register to that but at the last minute had to go out and missed the start.
The prizes are pretty good for this type of points buy in.$50 for 20 points sounds good to me.
Smile Smile Smile

     
  11-Oct-14, 18:37   #10
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Phisix 

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Indeed and they are quite soft as well and of course never that many entrants.

6 left and everyone keeps lucking out. Two people should have gone out to KK but hit a straight and now I am last with 38k as blinds are raping me and my AQ lost to Q9o push. So two hands to push... Sad but a big stack will prob win.

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And I am out. Last bit of my stack was taken by the BB and everyone limped in. I had 810o and flopped middle pair and a gutshot. Everyone else had draws as well but the two leaders both had QJ and hit their Q out of all of those odds and I wen't out in 6th and 5th went as well. If that Q did not come I would have won the pot and been back in it.

Card dead apart from that AQ so could not do much apart from sly steals and hope. No KK or AA in this MTT either. Don't know why I did not get 5th since I went out with a better hand then the guy who did.

On the positive I played well today and reach my first ever Party Poker final table and I also gained $12 so I have a bankroll to play with again. I'll take tomorrows down instead. Blink

I also have two Ladbrokes points freerolls like I just done on in 10 minutes, one for casino spins and one for the same sort of money as this MTT I just finished so hopefully my confidence and stuff carry on.

Edited by Phisix (Saturday, October 11, 2014 @ 18:52 GMT)


     
  11-Oct-14, 18:53   #11
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IceQueenAce 
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hi mate

nice result

I watched that final table. I kind of see the final table as being a different way to how you saw it. I am happy to give you a few pointers that will help you next time, if you want

     
  11-Oct-14, 19:01   #12
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klash23 
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Well done phisx,5th place is still pretty good.When you reach that part on a final table you are only a couple of good hands away from winning and most of the time there is not much you can do if you get a decent hand and get out drawn.
There is another 20 pointer in a couple of hours if you think you're playing well. Smile

     
  11-Oct-14, 19:06   #13
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Phisix 

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Yes, please do Ice!

To be honest, I was worried of going out before the $10. I didn't get that AQ all PF and thinking back I should have just pushed it but I was OOP. I also worry about trying to steal much as well in case a big stack calls and ruins me. I did it once I think when I was in the SB.

So any advice is golden to me. I am not as good at MTT's and Final tables as I am at cash tables either so I need to learn to do better and take any tips and pointers I can. Smile



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Posted by klash23:
Well done phisx,5th place is still pretty good.When you reach that part on a final table you are only a couple of good hands away from winning and most of the time there is not much you can do if you get a decent hand and get out drawn.
There is another 20 pointer in a couple of hours if you think you're playing well. Smile


Going to give that a miss as I will be burnt out as been playing freerolls all day so may leave to to tomorrow. It was actually 6th but still a nice win since I only had 7p in my account.

Going to spend tonight grinding DoN SNG's as I need to win at showdown with JJ to complete that SNG mission for $10.

     
  11-Oct-14, 20:05   #14
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luke571 

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Well done, Mate Smile

I soo know how you must have felt, aiming for the $10. Those moments when your stack is decreasing incredible fast and no hand to play Blink
But you at least got yourself quite a prize, I always end up with 0.something!
Anyways, well done and wishing you all the best of luck and success in raising your Bankroll Thumbs Up

ehm, sorry about my comment. Your post not mine. Too much of me in it Confused

Edited by luke571 (Saturday, October 11, 2014 @ 20:10 GMT)


     
  11-Oct-14, 20:44   #15
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Twistyoursou 

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You didn't get 5th because the other guy that busted had more chips at the start of the hand (:

Very nice result, you shouldn't at all feel disapointed, 6th place is great Thumbs Up

     
  11-Oct-14, 20:51   #16
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IceQueenAce 
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Posted by Phisix:
Yes, please do Ice!

To be honest, I was worried of going out before the $10. I didn't get that AQ all PF and thinking back I should have just pushed it but I was OOP. I also worry about trying to steal much as well in case a big stack calls and ruins me. I did it once I think when I was in the SB.



Ok well I am glad you said that, cause I think that is the crux of your problem.

You are so scared of losing that you are not giving yourself a chance of winning. You played incredibly tight passive and never really stood a chance. You decided fairly early on that you wanted 7th place to recoup some losses, but that constricted you so much you lost a chance of a much bigger payout. I am afraid you are the exact kind of player I target on a table, find someone who is just trying to limp up pay ladder and make their life as tough as possible, knowing by the time they fight back I would more than made a profit from taking their blinds.

Some specific instances:

You had 137k chips. Blinds were 25k/12.5k and with antes there was 55k in the pot. It folded to you in the SB. You folded. You HAVE to look at what is in the pot and look for places to steal.
You were hanging on when you were guaranteed $7 but wanted $10. So you threw away the chance to win big for the sake of only $3.
You would have added 25% to your stack, by shoving on the sb and if it went wrong, you would more than likely have live cards. There were lots of instances of this happening.
Just think, had you stolen the blinds/antes just twice, you would have been chip leader from that alone. Instead, you let yourself get so short that 4 other people were willing to call you.

Blinds were 30/15k. You had 100kish under the gun and you limped and checked it down, losing the pot. If you are good enough to limp utg, you MUST be shoving there and trying to isolate rather than be in a multi-way pot. Chances are everyone would have folded and you would have doubled up (100k + 85k in pot from blinds/antes).

You were in the BB and it folded to the SB who limped. This for me (unless you have a fking good reason not to), is an auto-shove just about every time. He is weak and won't be calling. Infact, if a player limps on the SB when short-stacked, I would always assume he is either a very very good player or a very very bad one. And the fact it is a 20 point freeroll would suggest he isn't some pro. Get it in there and then, and take the blinds which increase your stack a whole lot.

I think the chipleader had 250k and the BB was 25k, when I started watching. That means everyone is so light, that everyone is playing shove/fold poker. Sure you wanna have as much position as possible so you get no callers but if you get a hand, you have to just get it in the middle. I would make sure I always raise but rarely call in these positions. First one into the pot takes the pot so often and with blinds/antes so big, you are usually more than doubling up just by one steal.
As a general rule (it obviously changes depending on reads/game stake etc), I would try and steal twice per full round, to keep increasing your stack.

Hope others add to this (to make it better, I am not a great player by any means), but I hope this helps

     
  11-Oct-14, 20:56   #17
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Phisix 

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Just reached another final table on that Ladbrokes one for money. The free spins one has like 40 people left as well and I am above average. Things going well today.

I'll read that after these two MTT's Ice.

     
  11-Oct-14, 20:58   #18
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IceQueenAce 
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Posted by Twistyoursou:


Very nice result, you shouldn't at all feel disapointed, 6th place is great Thumbs Up


I couldn't disagree more. You SHOULD be disappointed. You let a good chance slip through your fingers cause you played it wrong. And it isn't a great result. You didn't make a profit, all you did was wipe out some losses.

And it is EXACTLY that disappointment that will lead you to become a better player and win a whole lot more.

All my wins seem to come after I have done something s**t and a whole lot of looking at my game and improving it.

You probably won't agree tonight, if you are anything like me, you will swear blind you played it great and were just unlucky. It is what you do tomorrow that will change your game, for the better.

Please don't let anyone let you believe you played well and were unlucky, or you won't improve your game (and a reason why when people post results, I always say 'nice result' rather than ul/wp etc because how do I know its been wp if I haven't watched).

Don't take this as a negative post, take heed and it could change your game for the better

     
  11-Oct-14, 21:24   #19
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Phisix 

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I'm always disappointed if I cannot finish better. I just finished 9th on that other table. Another table full of card dead or not hitting but did not have much chips as I had to restart my lappy and do something when it first started.

Positives are two final tables tonight and just need to do better in them now. Will read your post after this last MTT Ice.

     
  11-Oct-14, 22:15   #20
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Twistyoursou 

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I agree Ice... Just human nature to try to make the guy feel better I don't know. I said I cause I know I would get pissed Big Smile

     
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