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  30-Oct-14, 15:29   #1
heres the changes to pokerstars rake charts 0 
wullie 
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heres the charts for the rake change


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we have had black friday what day do you think 30/10/2014 will be remembered as?

Edited by wullie (Thursday, October 30, 2014 @ 15:38 GMT)

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  30-Oct-14, 15:56   #2
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ratovic80 

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Take a look at the aMAYA calendar, it clearly states that Pokerstars decline starts at November 2014!!

     
  30-Oct-14, 17:56   #3
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BeMyATMplz 
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Love how they even decrease the rake at the $3.50 KO turbos, where Regs are murdering games at 10%+ ROI, while they take away another 1.5-2% ROI in games that people hardly breakeven pre rakeback..

     
  30-Oct-14, 19:40   #4
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erru9107 
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Love how they even decrease the rake at the $3.50 KO turbos, where Regs are murdering games at 10%+ ROI, while they take away another 1.5-2% ROI in games that people hardly breakeven pre rakeback..

You being a regular SnG player at Stars, how much will this affect the ROI there? I think you have more knowledge about this then I do and seeing as I'm thinking about moving my bankroll to Stars, this is quite important information for me!

     
  30-Oct-14, 19:46   #5
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BeMyATMplz 
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Posted by erru9107:
Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Love how they even decrease the rake at the $3.50 KO turbos, where Regs are murdering games at 10%+ ROI, while they take away another 1.5-2% ROI in games that people hardly breakeven pre rakeback..

You being a regular SnG player at Stars, how much will this affect the ROI there? I think you have more knowledge about this then I do and seeing as I'm thinking about moving my bankroll to Stars, this is quite important information for me!


Well it's easy to calculate, you just have to calculate the % by how much the rake was increased at a specific stake, that's by how much ROIs should be decreased.
Obviously we can't make assumptions about how games will be, maybe they get softer because some regs switch to other variants, maybe they get even tougher because grinding a specific status will be easier, making more good poker players move to the games, that's all things that will determine the true ROI too, but we'll just have to wait and see I guess Smile

     
  30-Oct-14, 19:56   #6
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erru9107 
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Thanks mate, that sure sounds logical when you think about it! Smile

     
  30-Oct-14, 20:29   #7
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callie28 

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The greed is beyond belief,they will however put out a few tempters that on the surface looks good for the players,in truth will be of no benefit whatsoever.Bit like Camelot tried with the lotto in the UK......EPIC FAIL..... Sad Sad Sad

     
  31-Oct-14, 10:59   #8
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BeMyATMplz 
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I just noticed that only KO SNGs are effected, no regular ones. The KOs always had a little less rake than the regular ones (dont know why) and are now raked exactly as the regular ones,don't see anything wrong with that.
Hyper HUs is also moderate now that I look at it.

All other changes are pretty ridiculous though.

     
  31-Oct-14, 11:09   #9
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
Location: United Kingdom
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Posts: 2016
The main problem for me, being from the UK, is the double whammy of increased rake, and lower FPPs...

One change OR the other would've been manageable - but not both together.

I'm off to PartyPoker. Fk Supernova, Fk PokerStars.

     
  31-Oct-14, 11:34   #10
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BeMyATMplz 
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Would give party a try as well,but rage-excluded myself in 2011 after ballistic tilt and no chance to get back >.>

     
  31-Oct-14, 15:11   #11
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erru9107 
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Would give party a try as well,but rage-excluded myself in 2011 after ballistic tilt and no chance to get back >.>

You sure you can't just talk to the support team and try to get access to your account again? Maybe they would agree to remove your current account and let you create a new one? Just point to the recent developments at Stars and say that considering all of that, you really want to check out Party again since you think they are the most viable option out there these days.

I think that might be enough to get them to switch a few things around on your account so you can log back in again. Not saying 100% but just maybe!

     
  31-Oct-14, 16:17   #12
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BeMyATMplz 
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I asked some time ago and there is no chance, they have to keep it closed due to regulation combined with "responsible gaming" area :/

     
  31-Oct-14, 16:24   #13
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erru9107 
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That's to bad Sad I really would have loved to see you at the tables there!

     
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