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  2-Nov-14, 11:27   #1
Do you think pokerstars software is random or induced? -2 
Pygmalion69 

Joined: Jun '12
Location: Argentina
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 168
I am convinced that all poker software, not just the pokerstars but all because they are similar, they are a scam and accommodate not only the initial deal of cards, but especially the later development of the hand as more it suits them
I'm tired of losing with fishes only play a hand of poker because they have a big stack and despite having bad cards bet knowing that the program will encourage
What do you think? Question

     
  2-Nov-14, 11:47   #2
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (F)
Posts: 2243
We have heard this theory time and time again and no one has yet shown solid evidence that the big stack wins more than they should.Sometimes the early big stack has just been lucky and then plays more hands than he should and takes more risks.
If this rigged theory was true then I am sure that people would be just going all in on the first hand and then as soon as they are chip leader they are guaranteed to win the tournament.
I doubt the chip leader after level 1 of a tourney goes on to win too often. Smile

     
  2-Nov-14, 11:47   #3
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rasheek77 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 227
Posted by Pygmalion69:
I am convinced that all poker software, not just the pokerstars but all because they are similar, they are a scam and accommodate not only the initial deal of cards, but especially the later development of the hand as more it suits them
I'm tired of losing with fishes only play a hand of poker because they have a big stack and despite having bad cards bet knowing that the program will encourage
What do you think? Question



It does seem that way at time, Espically when the same player beats you over and over and over in the same tournament and most of the time calling with absolute s**t to hit a flush with ONLY one card useable in his hand or a straight. bit like the picture below. I could not win a hand against him, he just kept calling on crap and pulling out to many good hands to beat me ( the picture below is about 1 hour old ) It does make you wonder some times!!!!

Attached Imagesduck poker shit me off.jpg

     
  2-Nov-14, 12:06   #4
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superthight 

Joined: Jan '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 50 (F)
Posts: 752
i can say its true also we cant blame them what they want to bet because its j ust a freeroll tournament.i aslo lose every day and so on i cannot perform the real play on duck .but i never quite plyin duck for helping me build my bankroll now im in casino for bigger amount of winning yesterday was 100 today is 58ddollar Worship Worship Worship i have a pattern u could contact me.

     
  2-Nov-14, 12:09   #5
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rasheek77 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 227
Posted by superthight:
i can say its true also we cant blame them what they want to bet because its j ust a freeroll tournament.i aslo lose every day and so on i cannot perform the real play on duck .but i never quite plyin duck for helping me build my bankroll now im in casino for bigger amount of winning yesterday was 100 today is 58ddollar Worship Worship Worship i have a pattern u could contact me.


So true about freerolls, ya just have to suck it up i guess. It is no where as bad and pretty got with cash tournaments Thumbs Up

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How would i contact you SuperThight?

     
  2-Nov-14, 12:13   #6
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StheP 

Joined: Oct '14
Location: Serbia
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 3116
I have some bad beats in last hour... I had pocket aces guy with 88 goes all in, I call and 8 come out... then I got str8 some guy with 2 pairs goes all in I call and board paird on river and he got full house, then I went again on spin and go, and I got QQ and go all in and guy called me with KK :S and K come out to spicy things...I am down for this morning about 15$... But I dont think that software is rigged, maybe their random card generating system is fixed to give 2 or more player strong hand so there will be more money in pot... other things I dont think that are rigged...

     
  2-Nov-14, 12:20   #7
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jeffaboy 
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 20 (M)
Posts: 863
I dont really think its like this , the fact is the more chips a player has the more flops etc he can see , the more chance he has of hitting his crappy cards and make a suck out on you..

But i can see why you think like this , had a lot of these sick suck outs aswell just lost a hand my AA vs AK vs JJ , board ran out for a jack Confused but well just suck it up and play another one Cool keep cool greetz jeff

     
  2-Nov-14, 12:28   #8
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PokerKing76 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 746
I cant believe in 2014 people say that online poker its not rigged.
Have you ever play a real life tournament??? It takes ages to finish a 100 players tournament.

They do this to accelerate the game. Yes its rigged and we have to deal with it.

I had to program a game of card in early 90s and I choose poker. And yes we had to let the program choose the card on the river. With 10K players you'll have to play all week long to be at the final table.

I love online poker, but nothing beat a real life tournament to show your skills.

     
  2-Nov-14, 12:41   #9
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Pygmalion69 

Joined: Jun '12
Location: Argentina
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 168
StheP # # If you believe this, "But I dont think That software is rigged, maybe Their random card generating system is fixed to give 2 or more player strong hand so there will be more money in pot ..." that's just enough to demonstrate that the software is a scam and this induced and arranged for the convenience of pokerstars

     
  2-Nov-14, 12:45   #10
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 1854
You're just not good enough, no need to blame the site with weird theories that you have no evidence on.
I'm not saying there might not be specific patterns in the RNG, but everyone who blames the RNG for their bad beats and results is simply a bad player.

Posted by PokerKing76:
I cant believe in 2014 people say that online poker its not rigged.
Have you ever play a real life tournament??? It takes ages to finish a 100 players tournament.

They do this to accelerate the game. Yes its rigged and we have to deal with it.



lol, where is the comparison between online and live?
The tournament structure alone is way different, if a live tournament had a structure as fast as an online tournament then the lvie tournament would be finished in a simlar amount of time.

Also, the gameflow itself is much faster online, depending on number of players at the table you play 60-100 or so hands per hour per table. How many at live poker? 15-25?
That obviously means more action in the same period of time, and that also means there are more chances of people busting.

Edited by BeMyATMplz (Sunday, November 02, 2014 @ 12:53 GMT)


     
  2-Nov-14, 12:52   #11
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PixBJelovar 

Joined: Apr '11
Location: Croatia
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 140
Posted by BeMyATMplz:
You're just not good enough, no need to blame the site with weird theories that you have no evidence on.
I'm not saying there might be specific patterns in the RNG, but everyone who blames the RNG for their bad beats and results is simply a bad player.


as you can see all games that they play are freerolls so yea ..no comment needed. Big Smile

     
  2-Nov-14, 13:04   #12
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Pygmalion69 

Joined: Jun '12
Location: Argentina
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 168
This is true # # to PokerKing76 we play live poker every day, it's much more obvious that online poker programs are scams, now I wonder when the day will come that someone dares to do a criminal complaint on companies for I do lose money deliberately.
It is a very great delusion when going doing a great tournament and a fish that just because you have a big stack leaves out letters of s**t because the program encourages Aww crap! Confused

     
  2-Nov-14, 13:19   #13
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arsenej1 

Joined: Mar '09
Location: Canada
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Lol..

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Feel old thread needs to be brought back to life.

     
  2-Nov-14, 13:24   #14
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vsemoje 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: Slovenia
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Posts: 515
i dont understand why u play online poker if u think it is rigged.... thats just stupid Aww crap!

     
  2-Nov-14, 13:26   #15
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LadyFloppy 

Joined: Nov '13
Location: Argentina
Age: 21 (F)
Posts: 107
I consider myself a good poker player, not only live but online, however I am completely convinced that online poker programs are induced and a scam and that ended up playing in theaters because there is no other option
The theater owners are all criminals who became millionaires because of stupid like us who love the game Aww crap! Angry

Edited by LadyFloppy (Sunday, November 02, 2014 @ 13:39 GMT)


     
  2-Nov-14, 13:43   #16
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 1854
Posted by LadyFloppy:
I consider myself a good poker player, not only live but online, however I am completely convinced that online poker programs are induced and a scam and that ended up playing in theaters because there is no other option
The theater owners are all criminals who became millionaires because of stupid like us who love the game Aww crap! Angry


When I read this post, all things combined, I can only say one thing.. you're definitely not a good player because you don't even have the required IQ to even understand the fundamentals..

No offence, but your post makes NO sense in any way.
The site owners got millionaires because they scam you by offering rigged games?
The site owners are millionaires because people actually play, not because they are action-creating in their RNG.
Why would they manipulate the RNG to have more action-heavy hands just to rake in a few more cents on average? That's a very very bad risk/reward ratio (one concept that everyone complaining doesn't seem to understand, while it's mandatory in poker, so here's one reason why you're losing).

Edited by BeMyATMplz (Sunday, November 02, 2014 @ 13:48 GMT)


     
  2-Nov-14, 13:49   #17
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arsenej1 

Joined: Mar '09
Location: Canada
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 3017
Check this horse out guys.

Edited by arsenej1 (Sunday, November 02, 2014 @ 13:53 GMT)

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  2-Nov-14, 14:02   #18
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 2016
Nothing to gain - everything to lose...

Of course online poker is rigged.

Seriously guys. Stop being so self centered - it's not all about you ya know.

     
  2-Nov-14, 14:22   #19
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Tony_MON7ANA 

Joined: Mar '14
Location: Japan
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 4105
Tons of cheats that are much harder to detect or prevent going on live as well.
It is simply the nature of this unique game that allows any individual or business entity to manipulate the outcome without being held culpable.
Just quit or accept for your own sake.

     
  2-Nov-14, 14:46   #20
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LadyFloppy 

Joined: Nov '13
Location: Argentina
Age: 21 (F)
Posts: 107
"BeMyATMplz"
And who said I'm losing at online poker and especially in Pokerstars? Just look at my profile player, it's the same on this site to realize that I am a winning player, especially in head up with a positive ROI and net profits.
But not because it's winning I will stop to observe the obvious, the software are fixed and are scams, even sometimes favored me in the game, but prefer a noble and fair play as it occurs in the live tables.
Whoever has the smallish IQs are you terrible turnip should be, it makes no sense to waste words on people like you Thumbs Down

     
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