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  14-Nov-14, 18:40   #1
Played bad or bad luck? 0 
qzmag 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 704
Hello,
How would you have been playing this hand?

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/11745353_...

We were only 2 peoples into this hand. Before pre-flop i did not know what he had. But on the flop after i checked and he did a 5 bet, i was 100% he have a pocket pair. So seeing that i have 2 pairs on flop i decided to go all-in. I was right about him having a pair... but the turn and river helped him alot.
I really hate having myself pockets jacks, my rate for win is somewhere bellow 20%, and the rate for loose against prockets jacks is around 70-80% ... no matter what i have.
I know i overated my 2 pairs... + there is a chance for a flush and straight. But i already knew that he had pocket pair. So i played against a pocket pair...

How would you have been playing this hand?

Have a nice day / night and GL.

     
  14-Nov-14, 18:50   #2
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erru9107 
Joined: Oct '11
Location: Sweden
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 910
Unlucky the way the hand unfolded yes. But I think your biggest mistake was even playing that hand. In my opinion, that hand is a fold unless you're on the button or at least very close to it, so in a late late position.

     
  14-Nov-14, 18:58   #3
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TheMachineQC 

Joined: Apr '10
Location: Canada
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 2121
Yeah pretty unlucky but you played very passively pre flop, this kind of line is not very profitable in the long run I think. Fold (100% of the time fold here considering stack size) or raise pre flop is what I would say. Never limp "average" hands in these early positions, especially in MTTs. Not being in control of the pot is always a bad thing, and even if you had control of the pot, you're not gonna be in position after the flop most likely...

     
  14-Nov-14, 19:00   #4
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mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 2367
Yeah, preflop for me your hand was a fold, but postflop he obviously got pretty lucky.

     
  14-Nov-14, 19:17   #5
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vsemoje 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: Slovenia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 518
fold preflop without even limping. very poor play by u imo

     
  14-Nov-14, 20:03   #6
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StheP 

Joined: Oct '14
Location: Serbia
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 3126
Posted by erru9107:
Unlucky the way the hand unfolded yes. But I think your biggest mistake was even playing that hand. In my opinion, that hand is a fold unless you're on the button or at least very close to it, so in a late late position.

same here, I would fold preflop, other than that you did OK... maybe you should only called that 1k in case of set... but you didnt have luck

     
  14-Nov-14, 20:36   #7
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bullettooth1 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1635
Definite fold preflop in that postion. On the button if you're opening or as an all in steal if there are limpers and if ante's are involved. But anywhere else, it's a fold for me.
Better luck in the next one buddy Thumbs Up

     
  14-Nov-14, 21:21   #8
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eddie65 
Joined: Aug '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 22
id rather say its a bad play, maybe a call on the turn...and analyze his next move. ps are so good in this play to kickout unlucky players. Big Smile Aww crap!

     
  14-Nov-14, 21:28   #9
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TheMachineQC 

Joined: Apr '10
Location: Canada
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 2121
Well it's a bad play pre flop but what he did post flop is fine. The guy with JJ could've folded to his all-in bet, but he didn't and got lucky to hit a flush. I would say both guys did mistakes in the hand, but I can't blame the guy with JJ for calling the all-in bet on the flop with only 1 overcard on the board. But at the same time, It's not hard to put qzmag on paintcards (K-Q most likely) since he limped in early position...

     
  14-Nov-14, 21:43   #10
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: Hungary
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 4685
You should put more limit on your calling range out of position and you should definitely stop limping with any hand as a first bettor.
Don't care how soft the table was or how good your read was when the flop came, this hand cost you your whole game and you shouldn't even supposed to touch it from that position.

     
  15-Nov-14, 21:18   #11
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StS5 
Joined: Aug '14
Location: Germany
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 766
What is your problem? From my point of view you did everything right. Even your analysys was correct. You got all your money in with the best hand. So do not mind this is just bad luck as it often happens in poker.

     
  15-Nov-14, 21:40   #12
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: Hungary
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 4685
Posted by StS5:
What is your problem? From my point of view you did everything right. Even your analysys was correct. You got all your money in with the best hand. So do not mind this is just bad luck as it often happens in poker.

You cannot be serious.

     
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