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  16-Dec-14, 20:30   #1
First 1,000 hands of FastForward 0 
yout85 
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So I was talking to a friend today about poker... He was constantly going on about how weak the standard is on the FastForward tables on PartyPoker... and how he continually makes 25bb/100hands and upwards... So I made a decision there and then that when I got home from work, I would see for myself....

The first 1,000 hands couldn't really have gone much better (see attached graph)

I will play an absolute minimum of 2,500 hands per day, starting at $0.02/0.04 and hopefully moving up through to $0.50/1.00 in time.

I will be using 30 and 5 Bankroll Management (meaning when I have 35 buy-ins for the next level, I will move up.. if I drop back to 30 buy-ins, I'll drop back down, and so on..)

I clearly don't think I will keep up a winrate of over 100bb/100hands, but I'm also not expecting too many problems climbing the stakes....

I'll keep you posted Smile

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  16-Dec-14, 20:47   #2
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jeffaboy 
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Nice Smile keep it going matee Cool

     
  16-Dec-14, 21:04   #3
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BeMyATMplz 
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Isn't the traffic so much worse on party? Is 0.5/1 fastforward even playable/grindable? I was playing there the last few days to clear some of these missions but overall I (sadly) didn't think they are in a state to keep up with stars right now, in any aspect (seeing for example that eventhough stars reduced some promos, the rakeback % will still be higher, let alone traffic).

     
  16-Dec-14, 21:51   #4
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yout85 
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There is usually somewhere between 50 and 150 playing $0.50/1.00... So yeah, definitely grindable.

Hit a downswing nice and early... always good to get them out of the way Smile

...4-bet QQ, flop 589, get all in lose to 89
...Aces all in preflop, lose to tens
...67 of hearts, flop 3h 5h 8c, villain bets, I raise.. Turn 5s, villain checks, I bet, river 4s, villain checks, I bet, they raise, I call.... lose to pocket 4s

Still, knew it would be coming Smile

...and still running above EV, so can't complain.

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  16-Dec-14, 22:22   #5
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demodawggy 

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Good Luck to ya dude...!!! Smile Thumbs Up Heart Dollar

I like playing the Fast Forward,...or the Zoom,....and the one on the other site...! Thumbs Up

...just like being able to scoot throughh and past all the crap,...and get RIGHT to the crux of the situation...! The meat in the sandwich...!

I've overall made a fair big prifit on those types of tourneys...! Big Smile Thumbs Up Dollar

     
  16-Dec-14, 22:28   #6
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bullettooth1 

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Nice start there buddy!
Hope you keep it up. Good luck! Big Smile Thumbs Up

     
  16-Dec-14, 22:39   #7
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yout85 
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The downswing was corrected quickly enough Thumbs Up

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  16-Dec-14, 22:47   #8
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jeffaboy 
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Keep it going up now man Smile Thumbs Up ur doing great and we know you can do it !

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:21   #9
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marqis 

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I don't know about fast forward, but I currently play NL4 6max at party, and have a winrate of 36.4 bb/100 over 34529 hands (thats all the NL4 hands I ever played).
Over the last 10000 hands it's 74 bb/100 (since I've started table selecting).
So, very high winrates, really do seem to be possible here...
I keep expecting a downswing, but that has yet to happen Smile

Those are some good looking graphs! Keep it up! Thumbs Up

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:26   #10
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
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With just over 2.5k hands played, I'm currently at 47.64 bb/100 hands... and that includes a little downswing in the middle Smile

The games are definitely softer than Stars - noticeably softer.

I'll copy and paste some of the more interesting hands in a minute..

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Firstly, a couple of pocket 4 hands:

***** Hand History for Game 14282117911 *****
$0.02/$0.04 USD fastforward NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 16, 18:14:20 EST 2014
Table Supersonic (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 4: Carrilho14 ( $2.02 USD )
Seat 5: Elkerlijk ( $2.36 USD )
Seat 2: IFish2Luck ( $5 USD )
Seat 6: lydl57 ( $8.52 USD )
Seat 1: pepedrort ( $2.84 USD )
Seat 3: yout_1985 ( $6.08 USD )
IFish2Luck posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
yout_1985 posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to yout_1985 [ 4h 4s ]
Carrilho14 folds
Elkerlijk folds
lydl57 raises [$0.12 USD]
pepedrort folds
IFish2Luck folds
yout_1985 calls [$0.08 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, Qd, 2s ]
yout_1985 bets [$0.18 USD]
lydl57 calls [$0.18 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
yout_1985 bets [$0.44 USD]
lydl57 calls [$0.44 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
yout_1985 bets [$1.07 USD]
lydl57 is all-In [$7.78 USD]
yout_1985 is all-In [$4.27 USD]
yout_1985 shows [ 4h, 4s ]a full house, Fours full of Twos.
lydl57 shows [ Ts, Ad ]a pair of Twos.
lydl57 wins $2.44 USD from the side pot 1 with a pair of Twos.
yout_1985 wins $11.58 USD from the main pot with a full house, Fours full of Twos.


***** Hand History for Game 14281764183 *****
$0.02/$0.04 USD fastforward NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 16, 15:51:52 EST 2014
Table Supersonic (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 6: Allextrime ( $6.09 USD )
Seat 5: MillieBoncho ( $6.49 USD )
Seat 2: bonnyEC ( $4.66 USD )
Seat 1: mitar12 ( $4.60 USD )
Seat 3: stonedt ( $3.04 USD )
Seat 4: yout_1985 ( $18.12 USD )
bonnyEC posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
stonedt posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to yout_1985 [ 4h 4d ]
yout_1985 raises [$0.12 USD]
MillieBoncho folds
Allextrime folds
mitar12 calls [$0.12 USD]
bonnyEC folds
stonedt calls [$0.08 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, Qh, Qd ]
stonedt checks
yout_1985 bets [$0.27 USD]
mitar12 folds
stonedt calls [$0.27 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
stonedt checks
yout_1985 bets [$0.48 USD]
stonedt raises [$1.74 USD]
yout_1985 is all-In [$17.25 USD]
stonedt is all-In [$0.91 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
stonedt shows [ Qc, Tc ]three of a kind, Queens.
yout_1985 shows [ 4h, 4d ]a full house, Fours full of Queens.
yout_1985 wins $15.08 USD from the side pot 1 with a full house, Fours full of Queens.
yout_1985 wins $5.91 USD from the main pot with a full house, Fours full of Queens.



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And a nice pocket 9s hand...

***** Hand History for Game 14281520735 *****
$0.02/$0.04 USD fastforward NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 16, 14:27:11 EST 2014
Table Supersonic (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 2: DOM260346 ( $5 USD )
Seat 4: Kondikov86 ( $4.31 USD )
Seat 5: Rarotonger ( $5 USD )
Seat 6: dainisu ( $6.82 USD )
Seat 1: sapakias ( $6.80 USD )
Seat 3: yout_1985 ( $26.74 USD )
DOM260346 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
yout_1985 posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to yout_1985 [ 9d 9s ]
Kondikov86 folds
Rarotonger folds
dainisu raises [$0.16 USD]
sapakias folds
DOM260346 folds
yout_1985 raises [$0.32 USD]
dainisu calls [$0.20 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 5d, 6c ]
yout_1985 bets [$0.53 USD]
dainisu raises [$1.06 USD]
yout_1985 calls [$0.53 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
yout_1985 checks
dainisu bets [$1.36 USD]
yout_1985 calls [$1.36 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
yout_1985 checks
dainisu is all-In [$4.04 USD]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
yout_1985 calls [$4.04 USD]
yout_1985 shows [ 9d, 9s ]two pairs, Nines and Sevens.
dainisu doesn't show [ Kh, As ]a pair of Sevens.
yout_1985 wins $12.98 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Nines and Sevens.


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Then some not so nice hands...

***** Hand History for Game 14281959690 *****
$0.02/$0.04 USD fastforward NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 16, 17:03:46 EST 2014
Table Supersonic (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 6: Dahustla007 ( $6.03 USD )
Seat 5: Hasumeter ( $5.85 USD )
Seat 1: JackParson ( $6.18 USD )
Seat 4: aLOnohara ( $5.18 USD )
Seat 3: pasodoble88 ( $5.11 USD )
Seat 2: yout_1985 ( $8.69 USD )
yout_1985 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
pasodoble88 posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to yout_1985 [ 5d 5c ]
aLOnohara folds
Hasumeter folds
Dahustla007 folds
JackParson raises [$0.12 USD]
yout_1985 calls [$0.10 USD]
pasodoble88 will be using his time bank for this hand.
pasodoble88 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, 7h, 5s ]
yout_1985 checks
JackParson bets [$0.13 USD]
yout_1985 calls [$0.13 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
yout_1985 checks
JackParson bets [$0.52 USD]
yout_1985 raises [$1.56 USD]
JackParson raises [$3.38 USD]
yout_1985 is all-In [$6.88 USD]
JackParson is all-In [$2.03 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
JackParson shows [ 8h, 9h ]a straight, Six to Ten.
yout_1985 shows [ 5d, 5c ]three of a kind, Fives.
yout_1985 wins $2.51 USD from the side pot 1 with three of a kind, Fives.
JackParson wins $11.78 USD from the main pot with a straight, Six to Ten.

Edited by yout85 (Tuesday, December 16, 2014 @ 23:33 GMT)

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  16-Dec-14, 23:33   #11
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jeffaboy 
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looks good tho :_)

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:34   #12
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 2016
***** Hand History for Game 14282077883 *****
$0.02/$0.04 USD fastforward NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 16, 17:55:50 EST 2014
Table Supersonic (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 6: Dry_Martini ( $5 USD )
Seat 4: M4XIMU5 ( $7.16 USD )
Seat 3: SC-ler ( $4.51 USD )
Seat 5: Shooter1993 ( $10.61 USD )
Seat 1: erikandson ( $6.27 USD )
Seat 2: yout_1985 ( $5.20 USD )
yout_1985 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
SC-ler posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to yout_1985 [ Ac 7c ]
M4XIMU5 raises [$0.12 USD]
Shooter1993 folds
Dry_Martini folds
erikandson calls [$0.12 USD]
yout_1985 calls [$0.10 USD]
SC-ler calls [$0.08 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Tc, Js ]
yout_1985 checks
SC-ler bets [$0.04 USD]
M4XIMU5 folds
erikandson calls [$0.04 USD]
yout_1985 calls [$0.04 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
yout_1985 checks
SC-ler bets [$0.42 USD]
erikandson calls [$0.42 USD]
yout_1985 calls [$0.42 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
yout_1985 bets [$0.88 USD]
SC-ler is all-In [$3.93 USD]
erikandson folds
yout_1985 calls [$3.05 USD]
yout_1985 shows [ Ac, 7c ]a flush, Ace high.
SC-ler shows [ Jc, 9c ]a straight flush, Queen high.
SC-ler wins $9.24 USD from the main pot with a straight flush, Queen high.


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***** Hand History for Game 14281855982 *****
$0.02/$0.04 USD fastforward NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 16, 16:25:50 EST 2014
Table Supersonic (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 2: Dahustla007 ( $9.24 USD )
Seat 3: Ido Daisuke ( $1.55 USD )
Seat 6: Kondikov86 ( $2.74 USD )
Seat 4: effgee666 ( $9.68 USD )
Seat 5: waYneInc ( $2.45 USD )
Seat 1: yout_1985 ( $25.01 USD )
Dahustla007 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
Ido Daisuke posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to yout_1985 [ 6h 7h ]
effgee666 calls [$0.04 USD]
waYneInc folds
Kondikov86 folds
yout_1985 raises [$0.12 USD]
Dahustla007 folds
Ido Daisuke folds
effgee666 calls [$0.08 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, 5h, 8c ]
effgee666 bets [$0.20 USD]
yout_1985 raises [$0.52 USD]
effgee666 calls [$0.32 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5s ]
effgee666 checks
yout_1985 checks
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
effgee666 bets [$0.75 USD]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
yout_1985 raises [$1.76 USD]
effgee666 raises [$3 USD]
yout_1985 calls [$1.99 USD]
effgee666 shows [ 4c, 4d ]a full house, Fours full of Fives.
yout_1985 doesn't show [ 6h, 7h ]a straight, Four to Eight.
effgee666 wins $8.40 USD from the main pot with a full house, Fours full of Fives.

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:36   #13
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jeffaboy 
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Thats not so good Sad

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:39   #14
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yout85 
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Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 2016
Posted by jeffaboy:
Thats not so good Sad


Well, I'm classing it as a good thing that it's still a much better session than I could've hoped for, even with those losses... makes me a lot more confident that it's sustainable.

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:41   #15
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jeffaboy 
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 20 (M)
Posts: 863
There indeed you are right Smile and its better to get a little down swing now than when playing 5/10 or 10/25 stakes

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:52   #16
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av1966 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1500
fast forward was my game of choice for a while then increased the stakes and hell breaks lose Aww crap! Aww crap!
Was a beat after bad beat Aww crap! Aww crap! my bankroll gone to space so I quit for a while Aww crap! Aww crap!

Soon I´ll be back on the horse back to basics small stakes and a tight game
The best of luck to you hope you keep grinding the profits

Don´t forget to be happy and enjoy life

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:53   #17
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jeffaboy 
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 20 (M)
Posts: 863
Is it really that much softer than at stars? i used to do pretty good in these kind of games at UB before , and doing some at stars atm without a lot of trouble , how many tables do you play at once if i may ask?

     
  16-Dec-14, 23:55   #18
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 2016
Posted by jeffaboy:
There indeed you are right Smile and its better to get a little down swing now than when playing 5/10 or 10/25 stakes


Oh, they will come there too Smile

Luckily, volume crushes downswings in the end Thumbs Up

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Playing 4 tables at a time... and yes, I really do think it's much softer than Stars... I played over a million hands on Zoom, and playing on Party just doesn't feel the same at all.

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Posted by av1966:
fast forward was my game of choice for a while then increased the stakes and hell breaks lose Aww crap! Aww crap!
Was a beat after bad beat Aww crap! Aww crap! my bankroll gone to space so I quit for a while Aww crap! Aww crap!

Soon I'll be back on the horse back to basics small stakes and a tight game
The best of luck to you hope you keep grinding the profits

Don't forget to be happy and enjoy life


Thanks av Thumbs Up Maybe I'll see you at the tables soon Smile

     
  17-Dec-14, 00:01   #19
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jeffaboy 
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 20 (M)
Posts: 863
Hmm maybe ill give this a shot in the near future doesn't sound bad Smile

     
  17-Dec-14, 00:15   #20
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pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 73 (M)
Posts: 3494
Just knowing that you are on the tables for sure i would not play there Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

Your having a very good start and i am sure that you will continue being in the winning side.

When are you gone play the BRM Sunday freeroll Question Question Question Question

     
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