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  2-Jan-15, 09:24   #1
Party Poker Freeroll Regulars 0 
IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
Hi Guys

We haven't been invited again to Sunday's game.

I have spoken to party support who say invites are nothing to do with them.

I have just emailed BRM and will keep you updated here, though I don't expect much response cause of the time of year.

     
  2-Jan-15, 09:57   #2
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
I decided to talk to support as well, it seems BRM needs to provide the list with invites:

marqis: Just like the one last week, I'm unable to register for the "BankrollMob Freeroll" (#114691240), this coming Sunday.

It just says "Sorry!!! You're not invited to this tournament.", just like it used to do, before I made enough points to qualify.

Last week, it was reported on the Sunday itself, and it did not get sorted. Hopefully, you can still fix it this week, since it's only Friday now?
Dobrina: Welcome to Live Help!
Dobrina: Thanks for the confirmation. Please give me a moment while I retrieve your account details.
Dobrina: ok, the registration for the BankrollMob Freeroll has already started
Dobrina: when you click on register you receive the message that you are not invited i
marqis: Yes
marqis: No one is getting in, it seems.
marqis: (just like last week)
Dobrina: yes, I see
Dobrina: I am sorry for this inconvenience
Dobrina: Please give me a moment while I look into this for you.
marqis: Okay, no problem, I'll wait.
Dobrina: Have you received your inivitation?
marqis: I'm not sure what that looks like?
marqis: I.e. is it an email?
marqis: I never got those, or it's in an account I don't check maybe?
marqis: That is no different from all the times I was able to play, and I'm sure I met the requirements by a large margin.
marqis: (i.e 50 Party Points in the previous month)
Dobrina: It is an affiliate freeroll, that's why I am not able to see whether you received an invivatetion or not
Dobrina: have you checked with the affiliate?
marqis: Do you get the list of invites from Bankrollmob?
Dobrina: Well, we do not have such information but I will make sure to check with the respective team
marqis: Do you maybe have a suggestion, for me, to improve the situation, or are you now handling it by escalating it to the respective team? I mean, can I still do something, like ask BRM on the forum or something?
Dobrina: The thing is that we host the freeroll technically but all organisational stuff are handled by the affiliate
Dobrina: so I suggest that you contact them and check whether you have received this invitation
marqis: Okay, I'll do that, Thank you for your help!


@admin: Could you please check for us, if the invitations were sent?

edit: I just noticed there a no Party Poker freerolls mentioned on the "Freerolls" page; that might be a clue to what's gone wrong...?

Edited by marqis (Friday, January 02, 2015 @ 10:12 GMT)


     
  2-Jan-15, 11:08   #3
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
It was listed last week though and didn't run :/

My mail to BRM support...

The Bankrollmob $200 Freeroll on party hasn't had invitations sent out for it (same as last week). It didn't run last week as no-one could enter and it won't run this week if invites don't get sent.
This would make it the 7th time it hasn't run in the last 3 months (7 out of 13 is a pretty poor return). That is $1400 in prize money not paid out to about 30 on average regulars)

I do not consider this as a freeroll as we have to create rake at $25 per month (50 points) in order to play.

So, in effect, we have lost on average $47 prize money (1400 / 30). We have also had to pay out $75 in rake for the period in which we were unable to play the games as advertised. $47 + $75 = $122 swing in our bankrolls which is a huge amount when you consider I only sit with a max of $3 a time at the tables.

I hope for a quick reply

IceQueenAce

     
  2-Jan-15, 12:43   #4
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4862
WOW! I haven't earned enough points to be in this yet again, but am wishing that I had cos then I would truly appreciate the pain and effort and potential loss that is involved in such a matter as the game not going ahead or players not being able to register.

This can be a target for this year! Win enough points for the BRM party freeroll. And not get to play it! LOL........ Hope you all get it sorted and win heaps!

     
  2-Jan-15, 14:52   #5
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (F)
Posts: 2243
Thanks IQA and marquis for trying to get this sorted for the 40 or so regulars,your effort is appreciated.
It was disappointing that the last game was cancelled.I don't get the chance to play many tournaments but this one has been good to me in terms of prize money and it is,in my opinion, a very good structure for a $200 freeroll but as IQA says to earn 50 points to enter means it is not really a freeroll,especially for the micro stakes,recreational players.
I didn't bother with points in December as I'm away for a couple of Sundays but hope you get it sorted soon,and maybe a bonus game for the games we missed Smile

     
  2-Jan-15, 15:12   #6
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Administrator 

Joined: Aug '07
Location: Malta
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 7839
We have sent an e-mail regarding this, but due to holidays I don't expect a reply until sometime next week.

     
  2-Jan-15, 15:14   #7
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OnedOutAK 
Joined: Jan '12
Location: Canada
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 139
i see that there is one person registered for this bankrollmob freeroll on party poker, i am looking at it right now, maybe you guys can go fly on over, and try your registration out again...

     
  2-Jan-15, 16:05   #8
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
Posted by OnedOutAK:
i see that there is one person registered for this bankrollmob freeroll on party poker, i am looking at it right now, maybe you guys can go fly on over, and try your registration out again...

That's weird... I still can't get in.
He may just be getting an easy $200 payday... Confused

     
  2-Jan-15, 16:16   #9
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10034
I doubt the tournament will start with just one person.
All tournaments have a minimum requirement or they get cancelled. And so far,
I have never seen in any poker site such rules.
But I have seen tournaments start with all players in the money Smile

     
  2-Jan-15, 16:37   #10
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
Yes he is there.

I still can't get in.

It is a minimum of 3 players for it to start.

     
  4-Jan-15, 09:32   #11
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
4 players in now.

Sucks.

I guess we won't be playing it.

I withdrew funds there too now so not generating any rake/points :/

     
  4-Jan-15, 09:52   #12
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crash58 
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (M)
Posts: 2423
Partypoker and pokerstars and fulltilt, do Not have to provide bankrollmob with freerolls, they do this as a token to show how much they appreciate their business. the money doesn't come from BRM, nor does it come from the poker site, this money is usually provided by the 3rd party, the company that handles the affiliates. you should be thankful that brm gets so many freerolls, as their are poker forums out there that are crying for freerolls. so stop crying when you can't play one.

     
  4-Jan-15, 09:55   #13
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
It is not a freeroll in the traditional sense.

It is NOT a freeroll that anyone can join.

It is a freeroll that is paid out of OUR rake. We have to rake $25 per month to play them, so effectively buying in to the game.


     
  4-Jan-15, 10:09   #14
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crash58 
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (M)
Posts: 2423
It is not paid from your rake, it is a freeroll that has stipulations in order to join, one, you must have signed up through brm's link, two , you must have 50 party points to play, that doesn't mean your paying for it, it means only active players, can play the freeroll. they don't want deadbeats playing, they only want to reward active players with a freeroll.

     
  4-Jan-15, 10:15   #15
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
That isn't true.

BRM is a business, they don't put on these games out of the kindness of their heart.

It most certainly is paid for from rake, it is a form of rakeback. It is how the many rakeback sites work.
You can be sure they make more than $200 rake a week from the guys who play these games. If they stop making more, they will stop the games. It really is that simple.

Why do you think they say you have to sign up through BRM link? It is not because they want to reward us, it is to make sure we have paid rake to BRM in order to play.


     
  4-Jan-15, 11:07   #16
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yblod 

Joined: Feb '11
Location: Croatia
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 276
Posted by IceQueenAce:
4 players in now.

Sucks.

I guess we won't be playing it.

I withdrew funds there too now so not generating any rake/points :/


Thumbs Up This will be my way too.

     
  4-Jan-15, 11:19   #17
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
It is not that I dislike party, it is still my favourite choice of site.

But I can only make profit there if the games run on a regular basis. They aren't, and I am not so loyal to the site or BRM that I will continue playing there if I can't make a profit.

I will for sure deposit again maybe in the future if they have a +EV promotion for me though

     
  4-Jan-15, 12:17   #18
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
Posted by IceQueenAce:
That isn't true.

BRM is a business, they don't put on these games out of the kindness of their heart.

It most certainly is paid for from rake, it is a form of rakeback. It is how the many rakeback sites work.
You can be sure they make more than $200 rake a week from the guys who play these games. If they stop making more, they will stop the games. It really is that simple.

Why do you think they say you have to sign up through BRM link? It is not because they want to reward us, it is to make sure we have paid rake to BRM in order to play.


Exactly.

Usually there are about 40 entered, that all have at least raked $25 in the previous month. With 4 games per month, the absolute minimum is $250 of generated rake per game.

On the other hand, both BRM and the site need to be paid from this, as well as any other bonuses, these players are clearing. So if all 40 players are just doing the absolute minimum of 50 points, I doubt BRM/Party is making money from them, depending on which percentage they get from party, and who is actually paying for the $200 prize pool...

At the moment, I'm good for about 100 points per month, and I'm sure a good few of us will be raking much more than that.

About the 4 players that are currently registered; what makes them special? Is there some other way to qualify, other than what we are all doing? Or are they just "well-connected"?

     
  4-Jan-15, 12:18   #19
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titchuk20 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 28 (F)
Posts: 32
bit of a joke yet again same thing every weekend, funny how 4 people can register like you said easy money for them. the only name i have seen before is Tik

     
  4-Jan-15, 12:23   #20
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
Maybe if any of them read this they can tell us how they were able to register (so we can too):

Tik50*******
hertld*******
harrym*****
SirJim****

starred out part of their name, for anonymity sake.

Edited by marqis (Sunday, January 04, 2015 @ 12:28 GMT)


     
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