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  20-Jan-15, 18:21   #1
A small post dedicated to the rigtards... +4 
BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
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I could reply to everyone individually, but that would probably take years.
So here's 2 things I want to mention:

1st: in my opinion, everyone who constantly complains about their bad luck, how rigged the site and online poker itself is, either has no clue at all of the game (in terms of the variant-mathematics of the game) or they have played enough games to have a samplesize, don't beat the game, but are too proud to admit to themselves that they're simply not good enough to beat the game.
Some individuals post in here day in - day out how poker is 99% luck, that the site hates them or whatever. Truth is, they can't stand losing, while it's part of the game, for every single player, no matter how good they are. They feel they failed, but they can't admit to the obvious (them being just bad).
If you are a casual player and admit defeat then that's great, I really respect players that have been losing and still keep going and play, because they love the game and have fun.
But over the few years I'm on here, in increasing rate over the last few months, I've seen more and more people posting b******t. People who are ambitious but they aren't willing to put the work required in to be profitable players (everyone can do it, you neither have to be very intelligent nor very talented. With little work it's easy to become a winner), thinking it's so easy, and when they fail... well yeah, I already mentioned it.
In my honest opinion, looking back to when I joined this forum, it really was 10 times better back then. There are still some regs posting here that have a clue about what they post, but all the trolls (excluding pochui Big Smile ) are just plain annoying, and that's why very good players like Jovicakralj don't bother posting on here anymore, some people posting here really down the site.

2nd: About all this variance discussion. There is a chance you are a good player and lose some days. Maybe even some weeks, and maybe some months. Reason for that is volume. The more volume you play, the shorter (in terms of time) your swings will be.
If you play SNGs it's easily possible to be down over 1000 SNGs. How long do you need to play 1000 SNGs? Some rigtards haven't even played that amount lifetime so far. And still you complain about riggednes?

Below I'll attach my graph of sunday only - it's all $3.50 9 man turbo SNGs. If you play only 2 tables or so, then of course you will have phases of going just downwards for weeks. (To those who enjoy it, I don't want to encourage you to play more tables, but I'm sure some of you play even less than that in a month on average. And this graph could have gotten longer and show the same result. It could still be down after a few hundred games more).

Attached ImagesSharkScopeChart.jpg

     
  20-Jan-15, 18:31   #2
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StheP 

Joined: Oct '14
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totaly agree with you, I may post some interesting hand, but I dont wining about them... I dont thnk pokerstars is rigged (to be honest I was thinking that before, than I improve my gameplay and I see now how wrong I was) it is all mathematic... If you are having bad beats, that can happend to pros also, but that is all mathematic as I said... AA cant win all the time... they only win in 67% of time I think so, when you win 2 times with AA and lose once, you got lucky Blink Exelent post bemyatmplz Thumbs Up

     
  20-Jan-15, 18:38   #3
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
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blah blah... poker is still rigged and bots occupy 90% of players at the tables, drones the other 10%, leaving good players only a place under the tables.



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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
but all the trolls (excluding pochui Big Smile ) are just plain annoying

ha in your face random trolls- pochui is the troll of em all- the not annoying troll... the good troll, how sweet is that Thumbs Up

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i guess what you need to solve the troll crisis in brm forums is a bit of this:



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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
There is a chance you are a good player and lose some days. Maybe even some weeks, and maybe some months...

and maybe some years, and maybe some lives- that's my scenario... i guess i measure poker variance in lives... my life as pochui is doomed for trolling around the forums and freerolling @stars... maybe in my next life i will move up the stakes to say $0.02 990 sngs.

Edited by pochui (Tuesday, January 20, 2015 @ 18:49 GMT)


     
  20-Jan-15, 18:50   #4
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
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tl;dr

BTW complaining about the complainers makes you just one of them. Jovicakralj don't bother posting on here no more because he is busy making money which he can't do by finding every leak in all posted handhistories here.
Most posters here is either just playing away their lunch money or crying a river for the sake of it - getting annoyed by them makes me think you have way too much time on your hand to read through everybodies brain farts.

You are just 21. Go out there and live a little. Nobody needs to defend poker as a whole, but every gambling forum has it's fair share of Don Quixote, so I guess congrats earning this title.

     
  20-Jan-15, 18:51   #5
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pochui 

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hah bowie is a bad troll Evil

     
  20-Jan-15, 19:10   #6
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TheMachineQC 

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Some people understand the mathematics and dynamics of poker, some play for years but never will. If you understand the game, you can still be pissed at your bad luck when it happens at the most important hand of a MTT for exemple (for chip lead right before the bubble or something like that). That doesn't make you a bad person to be pissed at stuff you don't control. But being pissed (tilt) will lead to bad play. That's when it becomes a problem. People need to just focus on controling what they CAN control. And that is their chip stacks and their emotions. Blink

Crying/whining/venting off steam or whatever you wanna call it on an online forum is quite useless though. But it's better than reloading your cashier and tilting off your whole bank account Blink

In life in general, we should try to share more positive experiences/feelings with others... Not negative ones, there's really no point to it. (some people can learn from other people's mistakes though)

Edited by TheMachineQC (Tuesday, January 20, 2015 @ 19:16 GMT)


     
  20-Jan-15, 19:13   #7
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StheP 

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yup bowie is a bad troll and pochui good... like devil and angel Tongue

     
  20-Jan-15, 19:24   #8
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bowie1984 

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Posted by StheP:
yup bowie is a bad troll and pochui good... like devil and angel Tongue

It's like pottery. I mean poetry.

     
  20-Jan-15, 19:56   #9
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ouThhiTus 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Romania
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Posts: 78
i cite myself from another forum.
in poker tournaments people are meeting over tor forums or obscure clearnet chats to form a team 4-6 and hunt tourneys with big prizes/several players, talking all the time in skype conference. for example $200b, $10000 prize pool, 80 players, knock-out type the better, perfect for them. the purpose is to reach the money. i stopped playing poker the day i found by myself. i could have been one of them if i had $500+ a night to risk as im living on the edge and who knows how many live from this. is unfair? of course, but unstoppable. their chip dumping policies and security are jokes. i said this many times in poker videos where players act unusual but people learnt that everything not telling by goverment/media/major company is conspiracy and is false so i gave up.



when someone is saying that poker is rigged is because of unsatisfactory RNG or because of frauds. i wont guide players (wth direct links) to illegal ways but TOR is right there for everyone to access.

     
  20-Jan-15, 20:35   #10
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av1966 
Joined: Mar '09
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Man with that kind of safety please share with the other forum members where this conspiracy happens Worship Worship
It will be a way of getting the forum members safe from this scheme Aww crap! Aww crap!
This starts about winning and gets to breack os disclosure of world wide conspiracy Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Now I agree with THE MASTER TROLL POCHUI Worship Worship Worship POKER IS RIGGED Big Smile Big Smile

Don´t forget be happy and enjoy life

     
  20-Jan-15, 20:40   #11
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
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I do understand what you mean, but this is the poker forum I by far have the kost posts on, and it kinda makes me sad to see that 8/10 threads are about bad beats and such stuff nowdays, and it makes me sad (not just in poker, in general life) if people are not willing to listen no matter what, it's a habit of my personality. I don't think jovi doesnt post here because he has no time, I talk to him on skype relativly regulary, I remember one night we spent like 3 hours reviewing hand histories of each other.. Maybe I have too much goodwill to help people (although sometimes maybe I don't find the suitable words and sound like an a*****e), but that LeBron dude ( I didnt want to name anyone in this thread but this is just too much of an exception) is just too much.. I probably spent an hour in total trying to make him understand about the game, because he seemed ambitious, but it was time pure of waste, that's what pisses me off, I post this all for free (dont want to sound arrogant, but some players that were less successful than me get $30/hour for giving coaching) and the guy just doesnt get it. And don't worry, I have a good social life, go out most weekends, but I have to play poker to have any money as I'm a student and so far with payment yet to come (I don't play poker for pure enjoyment, honestly, but its better than having a shitty part time job with set times after school, and I enjoy the game in general), and look in this forum mostly during spare time only between sessions, dinner and so on Smile
Posted by bowie1984:
tl;dr

BTW complaining about the complainers makes you just one of them. Jovicakralj don't bother posting on here no more because he is busy making money which he can't do by finding every leak in all posted handhistories here.
Most posters here is either just playing away their lunch money or crying a river for the sake of it - getting annoyed by them makes me think you have way too much time on your hand to read through everybodies brain farts.

You are just 21. Go out there and live a little. Nobody needs to defend poker as a whole, but every gambling forum has it's fair share of Don Quixote, so I guess congrats earning this title.

Edited by BeMyATMplz (Tuesday, January 20, 2015 @ 20:46 GMT)


     
  20-Jan-15, 22:06   #12
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jeffaboy 
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
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I don't play high volume nor do i have that much succes as you do however i must say i totally agree with you in this thread, people should learn 2 do their maths and understand the game.
AMEN as they sometimes say Tongue

     
  20-Jan-15, 22:13   #13
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pinotte 
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There is a lot of peoples here that will post unlucky hands once in a while and they are also posting very good hands and wins in MTT or Freeroll. You mentionned an exception and i agree.

I dont know what this forum was like in the past but i like most of your post and would like having more peoples like you. But i really dont know how many mobbers that have your poker experience. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

     
  20-Jan-15, 22:18   #14
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demodawggy 

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I don't believe for one second that reputable poker sites like PokerStars,...Full Tilt,...and maybe even partypoker would deliberately cheat people en masse like these rigtards think or would have you think...!

I can't comment on other sites,...we know some shennannigans has gone on in the past,...but I'm sure the big sites have a lot to protect and wouldn't indulge in such tactics to increase revenue...! Smile Thumbs Up

     
  20-Jan-15, 22:40   #15
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
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Posted by pochui:
hah bowie is a bad troll Evil



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  20-Jan-15, 23:25   #16
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StS5 
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I must admit, that I am one of the guys that is complaining from time to time. But I think that is OK, although it might not be interesting to read, because for me it is a way to let out my anger. And if I can do it here it will not affect my play at the tables any longer.

     
  10-Apr-15, 00:46   #17
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arsenej1 

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You coming back BeMY? Havent been active for 44days were the rigtards to much for ya? Needed a breather?

     
  10-Apr-15, 17:48   #18
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TheIrish77 
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So he comes back after a 44 day lay-off to complain about complainers! What a whiner!

There's a million sites out there dude and if you aren't happy with this one, Bye !

Sorry if our little bothersome posts are getting to you but you are obviously not that active on here any more, so why even bother coming around and positing yourself?

Even if you are the post master as you claim!

Sorry I come here to get advice on hands and for people to tel lme what I may be doing wrong with my game. If this really bothers you then too bad I guess.

Have fun and enjoy the tables and the forum, cause it's not as bad as you make it out to be.

     
  10-Apr-15, 17:53   #19
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zeroster 

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Posted by TheIrish77:
So he comes back after a 44 day lay-off to complain about complainers! What a whiner!

There's a million sites out there dude and if you aren't happy with this one, Bye !

Sorry if our little bothersome posts are getting to you but you are obviously not that active on here any more, so why even bother coming around and positing yourself?

Even if you are the post master as you claim!

Sorry I come here to get advice on hands and for people to tel lme what I may be doing wrong with my game. If this really bothers you then too bad I guess.

Have fun and enjoy the tables and the forum, cause it's not as bad as you make it out to be.


Shame you didn't check the date on the original post, he's been absent for 44 days since making it

     
  10-Apr-15, 17:57   #20
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arsenej1 

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Posted by TheIrish77:
So he comes back after a 44 day lay-off to complain about complainers! What a whiner!

There's a million sites out there dude and if you aren't happy with this one, Bye !

Sorry if our little bothersome posts are getting to you but you are obviously not that active on here any more, so why even bother coming around and positing yourself?

Even if you are the post master as you claim!

Sorry I come here to get advice on hands and for people to tel lme what I may be doing wrong with my game. If this really bothers you then too bad I guess.

Have fun and enjoy the tables and the forum, cause it's not as bad as you make it out to be.



Seems the irish got some good crank

     
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