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  2-May-15, 03:15   #1
Pokerstars did it again! -1 
sinansinan 

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But this time on a friend of mine.

Viva p.okerstars and this s**t platform

http://www.boomplayer.com/el/poker-hands/Boom/14229701_... Angry

Edited by sinansinan (Saturday, May 02, 2015 @ 03:15 GMT)


     
  2-May-15, 03:40   #2
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pinotte 
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Just tell your frien to continue raise and reraise with a 3 4s and he will be out of money very soon.
Cmon he had nothink to do in this hand with the cards he had he got very lucky on the flop and lost on the river so the best hand won. I would really like that it would be more often like that to eliminate the donks. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  2-May-15, 09:46   #3
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damosk 
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I have just watched this hand and am quite please how I called it. The interesting thing is the raise and call pre flop. I can see why this may be a good call, but with certain questions, especially after the raise from BB. On the flop, the hero must have thought all of his Christmasses had come at one time, and the BB must have felt pretty sure, given the betting pattern of the hero. Imagine the change of emotions as the river hits the felt!

     
  2-May-15, 11:52   #4
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pochui 

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no way, i cannot believe that pokerstars did it again, i mean come-on really is this the world we're living in, is this what we expected to see, do we deserve this sort of treatment? this cannot be tolerated anymore and something must be made in order to change this unbelievably rotten situation

     
  2-May-15, 13:44   #5
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klash23 
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I don't really see what the complaint here is,all I see is that a pair of tens beat 34s when all 5 community cards have been dealt,the hand played itself after the flop,some would say 34 guy was really unlucky but most times the flop is not 334 and the hand plays entirely differently.
I think whoever lost this hand would have been thinking they were unlucky. Smile

     
  2-May-15, 13:55   #6
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sinansinan 

Joined: Oct '13
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and its continues in one outer

http://www.boomplayer.com/el/poker-hands/Boom/14232983_...

final table

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Posted by klash23:
I don't really see what the complaint here is,all I see is that a pair of tens beat 34s when all 5 community cards have been dealt,the hand played itself after the flop,some would say 34 guy was really unlucky but most times the flop is not 334 and the hand plays entirely differently.
I think whoever lost this hand would have been thinking they were unlucky. Smile


I was playing with the TT guy alot of time at that table and i know the reason that i call pre IN POSSTION.
the guy fold flops 90% or more of the times to a bet.
I to much to analyze the hand.not in the mood Disagree

Edited by sinansinan (Saturday, May 02, 2015 @ 14:00 GMT)


     
  2-May-15, 14:05   #7
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Heskor 
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Hi mate hope you are having fun at the tables and making money and hope you are grinding those all in tickets on pokerstars always a good idea when you are playing normally to have some bonuses you have around. Anyway have fun again and post more of those hands, i used boom player some time ago because of the promotion otherwise i would not have known that there was that hand sharing device up there, anyway have fun again mate!

     
  2-May-15, 15:43   #8
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crash58 
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Posted by sinansinan:
But this time on a friend of mine.

Viva p.okerstars and this s**t platform

http://www.boomplayer.com/el/poker-hands/Boom/14229701_... Angry



yea too bad these things happen, but it's not just pokerstars , it happens at every site, i was playing at 888 yesterday and the same thing happened, i flopped a full house and he river a bigger full house. S**t happens.

     
  2-May-15, 15:53   #9
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arsenej1 

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If every hand thats a favourite in every situation won the trill would be gone and abc poker would be the only way the game is played. We need suckouts and donks to keep the game alive

     
  2-May-15, 16:29   #10
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s_manu 
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It's a usual situation. 2014 WCOOP final table followed. Smile

     
  2-May-15, 16:30   #11
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sinansinan 

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Posted by arsenej1:
If every hand thats a favourite in every situation won the trill would be gone and abc poker would be the only way the game is played. We need suckouts and donks to keep the game alive



If you play for 7 hours at the bigger 4.40 and 50 players left and one of them risk his tournament life with A5o and break my AA is too much of a pain!

     
  2-May-15, 16:35   #12
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s_manu 
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badcall there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkemHmyWGcw

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When you're not all-in opponents can throw in the pot with a raise
This is based on the strength aggression - one of the basic concepts in No Limit Hold'em. Doing all-in you have two ways to win the hand - opponents can fold or call, in which case you win the showdown. You must therefore do all in with more hands than you can call an all-in. If an opponent moves all-in it can put in a difficult position, not knowing if you can call with a weaker hand or you fold a better hand. Big Smile

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badcall there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkemHmyWGcw

When you're not all-in opponents can throw in the pot with a raise
This is based on the strength aggression - one of the basic concepts in No Limit Hold'em. Doing all-in you have two ways to win the hand - opponents can fold or call, in which case you win the showdown. You must therefore do all in with more hands than you can call an all-in. If an opponent moves all-in it can put in a difficult position, not knowing if you can call with a weaker hand or you fold a better hand.

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badcall there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkemHmyWGcw
When you're not all-in opponents can throw in the pot with a raise
This is based on the strength aggression - one of the basic concepts in No Limit Hold'em. Doing all-in you have two ways to win the hand - opponents can fold or call, in which case you win the showdown. You must therefore do all in with more hands than you can call an all-in. If an opponent moves all-in it can put in a difficult position, not knowing if you can call with a weaker hand or you fold a better hand.

Edited by s_manu (Saturday, May 02, 2015 @ 16:47 GMT)


     
  2-May-15, 16:56   #13
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arsenej1 

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Posted by sinansinan:
Posted by arsenej1:
If every hand thats a favourite in every situation won the trill would be gone and abc poker would be the only way the game is played. We need suckouts and donks to keep the game alive



If you play for 7 hours at the bigger 4.40 and 50 players left and one of them risk his tournament life with A5o and break my AA is too much of a pain!


Lol i know the feeling i play 7-8 hours a day and hate being sucked out on expecially late in the tourneys but it does happen and happends often. Not much we can do and gettin upset is only gonna effect your play no one elses. All ya can do is keep ur head up and hit the register button always another tourny waiting

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Just think guys it could always be worse and u can run into me at the tables Blink .....its not the xards u hold its how u use them.




*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Zoom Hand #134669335916:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2015/05/02 16:56:31AT [2015/05/02 15:56:31 ET]
Table 'Hyakutake' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kitty_vio84 ($5.89 in chips) 
Seat 2: ProFashionPr ($3.08 in chips) 
Seat 3: arsenej1 ($4.22 in chips) 
Seat 4: Yarstein ($5.17 in chips) 
Seat 5: chapitax91 ($5.13 in chips) 
Seat 6: deBerg64 ($5.32 in chips) 
Seat 7: vndfz378s ($4.84 in chips) 
Seat 8: shum133 ($3.46 in chips) 
Seat 9: ifRiTlarenga ($11.07 in chips) 
ProFashionPr: posts small blind $0.02
arsenej1: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to arsenej1 [2s 7c]
Yarstein: folds 
chapitax91: folds 
deBerg64: folds 
vndfz378s: folds 
shum133: folds 
ifRiTlarenga: folds 
kitty_vio84: raises $0.10 to $0.15
ProFashionPr: calls $0.13
arsenej1: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qc Jd]
ProFashionPr: checks 
arsenej1: checks 
kitty_vio84: checks 
*** TURN *** [Qd Qc Jd] 8 of clubs
ProFashionPr: bets $0.10
arsenej1: raises $0.20 to $0.30
kitty_vio84: folds 
ProFashionPr: calls $0.20
*** RIVER *** [Qd Qc Jd 8c] 8 of spades
ProFashionPr: checks 
arsenej1: bets $0.60
ProFashionPr: folds 
Uncalled bet ($0.60) returned to arsenej1
arsenej1 collected $1.01 from pot
arsenej1: doesn't show hand 
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.05 | Rake $0.04 
Board [Qd Qc Jd 8c 8s]
Seat 1: kitty_vio84 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: ProFashionPr (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: arsenej1 (big blind) collected ($1.01)
Seat 4: Yarstein folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: chapitax91 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: deBerg64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: vndfz378s folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: shum133 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ifRiTlarenga folded before Flop (didn't bet

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Get the feeling this guy was cursing me good on that turn Blink
Sometimes ubber aggressive pays off.

******** # 3 **************
PokerStars Zoom Hand #134676465228:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2015/05/02 19:11:49AT [2015/05/02 18:11:49 ET]
Table 'Hyakutake' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kristina925 ($11.27 in chips) 
Seat 2: Homo sap1ens ($5.81 in chips) 
Seat 3: zendow20 ($3.29 in chips) 
Seat 4: SoerenR1991 ($8 in chips) 
Seat 5: Aggressor229 ($16.97 in chips) 
Seat 6: arsenej1 ($6.89 in chips) 
Seat 7: Luck-Roma64 ($8.30 in chips) 
Seat 8: A_Paradovsky ($5.34 in chips) 
Seat 9: Iwillpro ($7.30 in chips) 
Homo sap1ens: posts small blind $0.02
zendow20: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to arsenej1 [Ac Kc]
SoerenR1991: folds 
Aggressor229: folds 
arsenej1: raises $0.10 to $0.15
Luck-Roma64: folds 
A_Paradovsky: calls $0.15
Iwillpro: folds 
kristina925: raises $0.10 to $0.25
Homo sap1ens: folds 
zendow20: folds 
arsenej1: raises $0.72 to $0.97
A_Paradovsky: folds 
kristina925: calls $0.72
*** FLOP *** [3c 3h Js]
arsenej1: bets $1.30
kristina925: calls $1.30
*** TURN *** [3c 3h Js] Ace of diamonds
arsenej1: bets $3.05
kristina925: calls $3.05
*** RIVER *** [3c 3h Js Ad] 7 of spades
arsenej1: bets $1.57 and is all-in
kristina925: calls $1.57
*** SHOW DOWN ***
arsenej1: shows [Ac Kc] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
kristina925: shows [Qc Qh] (two pair, Queens and Threes)
arsenej1 collected $13.42 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14 | Rake $0.58 
Board [3c 3h Js Ad 7s]
Seat 1: kristina925 (button) showed [Qc Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Threes
Seat 2: Homo sap1ens (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: zendow20 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: SoerenR1991 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Aggressor229 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: arsenej1 showed [Ac Kc] and won ($13.42) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 7: Luck-Roma64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: A_Paradovsky folded before Flop
Seat 9: Iwillpro folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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What about this win with a pair of 7's? Lol it may look reckless but my no fear approach has earned me over 45$ in less then an hour




*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Zoom Hand #134677793323:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2015/05/02 19:39:56 AT [2015/05/02 18:39:56 ET]
Table 'Hyakutake' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: arsenej1 ($7.40 in chips) 
Seat 2: tetsuoyabe ($6.50 in chips) 
Seat 3: lubikmax ($11.92 in chips) 
Seat 4: Ambis03 ($5.49 in chips) 
Seat 5: ddobrykh ($5 in chips) 
Seat 6: CluSive90 ($4.89 in chips) 
Seat 7: arlek1n22 ($5.02 in chips) 
Seat 8: bpap1889 ($5.33 in chips) 
Seat 9: 11ivt ($5.76 in chips) 
tetsuoyabe: posts small blind $0.02
lubikmax: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to arsenej1 [7d Ad]
Ambis03: folds 
ddobrykh: folds 
CluSive90: folds 
arlek1n22: folds 
bpap1889: raises $0.05 to $0.10
11ivt: raises $0.40 to $0.50
arsenej1: calls $0.50
tetsuoyabe: folds 
lubikmax: folds 
bpap1889: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [7c Jc Kc]
bpap1889: checks 
11ivt: bets $0.99
arsenej1: calls $0.99
bpap1889: folds 
*** TURN *** [7c Jc Kc] Queen of spades
11ivt: checks 
arsenej1: bets $1.50
11ivt: folds 
Uncalled bet ($1.50) returned to arsenej1
arsenej1 collected $3.40 from pot
arsenej1: doesn't show hand 
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.55 | Rake $0.15 
Board [7c Jc Kc Qs]
Seat 1: arsenej1 (button) collected ($3.40)
Seat 2: tetsuoyabe (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: lubikmax (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Ambis03 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ddobrykh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: CluSive90 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: arlek1n22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bpap1889 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: 11ivt folded on the Turn Big Smile

Edited by arsenej1 (Saturday, May 02, 2015 @ 22:43 GMT)


     
  3-May-15, 00:54   #14
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bowie1984 

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Posted by pochui:
no way, i cannot believe that pokerstars did it again, i mean come-on really is this the world we're living in, is this what we expected to see, do we deserve this sort of treatment? this cannot be tolerated anymore and something must be made in order to change this unbelievably rotten situation

Obviously holding 43s is not what it used to be. Tears.

     
  3-May-15, 05:13   #15
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takingdrugs 

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Location: United Kingdom
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Posts: 744
Posted by bowie1984:

Obviously holding 43s is not what it used to be. Tears.


Na it's still the nuts preflop, player just got unlucky that's all.

Anyway for the second hand listed I have to say playing a 4 man sit and go and labelling it a final table Thumbs Up well played Worship

     
  3-May-15, 17:44   #16
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10045
For many players holding any ace is like holding AA. Even better cause they might
get a flush Smile And they do this no matter their position stack or tournament.
How many times have we lost from such a hand, going all in preflop with a pair, and they hot their
A. Not that it doesnt happen the other way though Smile

     
  5-May-15, 13:02   #17
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sinansinan 

Joined: Oct '13
Location: Greece
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 36
Almost always the worst hand will win

http://www.boomplayer.com/el/poker-hands/Boom/14276146_...

     
  5-May-15, 13:49   #18
  +1 
Phisix 

Joined: May '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 2216
A four way all in and you call with KK, such a bad move in my eyes seeing as you have more players to suck out or hit and ace if they have one. I would have folded that hand, but you should have won it indeed on the flop but that river was just plain unlucky.

It's poker though, so just dust yourself off and carry on until variance favours you again.

     
  5-May-15, 14:03   #19
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 2016
I'm never folding that KK there... 4-way pot or not.

But this latest hand perfectly shows the "double-thinking" of most players... when they get it in good and lose, it's a joke... But the other way around they don't even bat an eyelid.

With this hand, at the point the chips go in, you're dominated... and the end result is a loss. The bits that happen in-between are irrelevant.

     
  5-May-15, 14:23   #20
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takingdrugs 

Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 744
Posted by Phisix:
A four way all in and you call with KK, such a bad move in my eyes seeing as you have more players to suck out or hit and ace if they have one. I would have folded that hand, but you should have won it indeed on the flop but that river was just plain unlucky.

It's poker though, so just dust yourself off and carry on until variance favours you again.


??????????????

Kings in a four way pot? Fold?
You seem to be saying that they had more chance of hitting an ace and sucking out.
I would be loving this probs at least 2 of them have an ace in there hand and therefore they would be taking away each other's outs, a bit of a dream spot and NEVER folding.

     
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