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  4-May-15, 16:20   #1
Not a joke -1 
SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 36 (M)
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Ever since i have been playing on fulltillt, i have noticed something that's been happening to me over and over and over and over and over again, I HAVE NEVER, NEVER, NEEEEVVVEEERRRR won a hand with KJ, has any1 else have that problem with KJ, or has any1 else have a hand that no matter what the circumstance u can never win with it ?
I hate KJ on fulltillt, Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! pokerstars, bring it onnn Big Smile

Edited by SBEP (Monday, May 04, 2015 @ 16:57 GMT)


     
  4-May-15, 16:52   #2
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takingdrugs 

Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 744
K9, make 2 pair and it's never any good, make a straight and someone makes broadway.
Mabee I should remove that hand from my preflop shoving range Tongue

     
  4-May-15, 17:07   #3
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 948
The problem with KJ is that it looks like a strong hand, and its not all that bad sometimes on pokerstars i have made fullhouse, broadway, trip's J`s and everything else possible you can make with KJ heck i even won with it just with K high, but on fulltillt one time i got pair of Js that got crushed by pair of aces and that's it, 99% of the time i miss everything, that's whats so strange about it, and thus this post, if it had happened like 50/50 i would have not bitched and moan about it

     
  4-May-15, 17:16   #4
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Heskor 
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 2659
It happens mate i used to think i hate poker sites because i loses on them but turned out i was bad and could not even play to break even and always make loses lol , anyway it is just random thing you just hope you will get lucky and make money on full tilt, this is the site where i made my first royal flush and make some good money there as field is weak and all, anyway good luck again and have fun at the tables mate g, cheers!

     
  4-May-15, 17:44   #5
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 948
No Heskor, i too like you and like every other poker player have had the up`s and down`s as a beginner and now as an experienced player (playing poker for over 8 years now) i have been in a lot situation`s in poker i even know what the other player hole cards are, but this, is something i have only seen on fulltilt, in all my years of playing poker i have never seen a weirder thing, its like Hercules who was "bullet proof" all over his body except for his heel, and in my case ive been cursed by the poker gods never to win with KJ on FullTillt, i can kick ass with 74 off suite but never KJ, i have played them every way possible, slow rolled bluffed, bluffed, check raised, shoved pre flop post flop to no avail

     
  4-May-15, 18:06   #6
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 9677
Your time will come, dont worry about it. If you are playing long enough, you will win with all the hands, but you will also lose with all of them too.
Since you are failing to hit something with it, dont bet too much when you get it, or fold Smile

     
  4-May-15, 18:17   #7
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 948
Thats what i have tried Mober, to brake the spell, since i have noticed i always lose with KJ, now i just fold it, and check the board just to see if something has changed Blink

     
  4-May-15, 18:23   #8
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
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Posts: 9677
It will happen. Just play some freerolls for more chances to break the spell Smile

     
  4-May-15, 18:36   #9
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5594

...Well,... If you are J K off all the time with no result,...may I suggest a visit to your urologist...! Big Smile

     
  4-May-15, 22:49   #10
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av1966 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1500
Hello my friends and fellow mobsters

Well I don´t think you are one of a kind all of the poker players have a hand that always feels crused but soon you will win with that hand Confused

Just relax and don´t get fixed in this hand you will sonner or later win with it Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Good luck to you and keep on playing

Don´t forget to be happy and enjoy life

     
  4-May-15, 23:39   #11
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callie28 

Joined: Jun '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 1111
9 6 suited is my fav hand,I don't always bet it but do win with it alot,K J I don't mind,it's easier to fold than JJ but if it's a real thorn then limp when possible and fold the biatch when there's any resistance,as most have said it will hit gl with it... Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  5-May-15, 15:02   #12
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 37 (F)
Posts: 2243
I agree that KJ is not the greatest hand if you find yourself under pressure or have someone calling down the streets.No matter how well you think your hand is there is always the possibility that you are dominated or they have a straight when you hit 2 pair.
I think someone has said that with this hand you just need to be very aware of your opponent. Smile

     
  5-May-15, 15:11   #13
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vsemoje 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: Slovenia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 507
no wonder JK is called rokiee hand.....

     
  5-May-15, 17:31   #14
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Heskor 
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 2659
Hmm just take a break i think you are playing too much and thus concentrating on the bad hands when it is just the usual variance and ll, anyway good luck again hope you bounce back and the tide goes in your favor and all, hopefully it will , me tide was never in my favor and i always lost so good luck okay out for some rest and then watch CL tonight, cheers peace out mate, good luck again at the tables hope you do well if not take a vacation!

     
  5-May-15, 18:37   #15
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 9677
No need to take a break because he cant win a hand with KJ.
If that was the case and everyone was taking a break for such a reason, most of the time
every one would have been away from the tables.
Cant let one hand rule your whole game.

     
  5-May-15, 20:18   #16
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4716
I agree with the comments in the above two posts. It would appear that your focus has been drawn to a run of hands where your perceived weak spot is KJ. Take a view of any other hand that you lose with and you will soon realise that you will focus on whatever your mind is allowed to. For example, think of a car type and before long you will start seeing more of that car type than any other! It's probability being overtaken by recognition.

     
  6-May-15, 01:02   #17
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 948
I agree with the last tree posts to some extent:
i agree with Heskor on playing a lot of poker, i really do need a brake, and im gonna take on his advice , get a couple of day`s off poker, not gonna follow up on his advice about CL, i stopped watching football since 2006 when they rigged the final in Champions league it was Arsenal vs Barca, handball on other hand i like Big Smile its still almost all fair and square.
I agree with Mober, she is the only one that got my point, and as she said i don't allow that hand to rule my whole game on fulltilt its just that now i know for sure i can never win with it Smile
I agree with damosk on recognition, i got other hands in poker i hate like A10, QJ, K10 where i lose more often then win but still i play those hands,and play the odd`s, no complaints there, mb i didn't explained the weird thing with KJ on fulltillt good enough to get across my point, every where else i play KJ like pokerstars, 888 poker, PKR and BWIN i get fair odds for winning and losing with that hand, and that's what i got so far, i won some i lost some, but on fulltillt, for me, with KJ, there is no odd`s for winning, its just losing, that`s the weird thing, and the reason for this post Thumbs Up
PS: Love and respect everyone, trust no one. May the poker gods always be in your favor, and take you to final table Heart Heart Heart

------------
OOOouu and demodawggy, get out of the closet man, its time for you to get out, its not the first time your gayness has surfaced, this is like the 4-5th time already Big Smile i mean i love you, just not in that way, i am self aware of my looks and sexuality, i know im attractive heterosexual man, i have embraced it and im loving it, i suggest you get out of the closet, embrace and accept who you are, so you can finally be happy, and stop barking up the wrong tree Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Heart Heart Heart

Edited by SBEP (Wednesday, May 06, 2015 @ 01:37 GMT)


     
  6-May-15, 05:38   #18
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1626
Posted by demodawggy:

...Well,... If you are J K off all the time with no result,...may I suggest a visit to your urologist...! Big Smile

Lol Big Smile

To quit JK off altogether, seems a bit extreme. You gotta keep trying. Maybe not commit to the hand as much... Blink

But seriously, this is just superstition, and it has no place in poker, if you intend to do well at it.

     
  6-May-15, 11:43   #19
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 948
Marqis you should really read the post`s before commenting on them Big Smile

     
  6-May-15, 13:35   #20
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1626
Posted by SBEP:
Marqis you should really read the post`s before commenting on them Big Smile

Are you referring to you agreeing with Damosk? I saw that (and in fact read the whole thread). My point about superstition is in fact the same one that Damosk made. I just reiterated it slightly more succinct.
I could have said to not compensate for variance by playing suboptimally (which again is the same point).

     
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