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  6-Jun-15, 05:53   #1
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Robdeejay 

Joined: Mar '12
Location: Austria
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 12
Hello Pokerfriends....
First i`m sorry, my englishn is broken.
So long time i play on PokerStars and so much time i think i have to learn poker. But my first question and problem by PokerStars is the VARIANZ. Everybody tell me sometimes you get a nice Flop and sometimes you loose with AA.

Well, i know, AA is not everytime the best card. All-in??? Yes??? Everybody fold. 3-bet is maybe not enough.

Last Weekend i play my first Sunday Storm and was ITM on ranking 232. Still 751 Players on the tables.

My cards AQo. The flop shoe AQ and 9(one hard). Everybody check and i do all-in. Now listen....
A russian player with a bigger stack call my all-in with 36s (in hard) in a tournee about 300K.

Heeeeee???? whats that?????? I see his cards and think it`s of small importence. But just for some seconds because the turn and the river give him a hard.

With nothing the player call my all-in. No chance to make a street and just to hope is ITM not enough. It´s possible they have a help from a softwear?? I think nobody call a all-in with this cards in 300K tournement. 31.300 players.... the last 751 and he call with nothing? I did´nt understand.

So i think it´s time for me to make a time-out by PokerStars because that can´t be true and nobody, really nobody call my all-in after the flop with this cards.

NO BINGO, NO BABYSITTING.... whats that?????????????????????????????

Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

Wish you all the best on the tables..... (more luck Confused )

     
  6-Jun-15, 06:25   #2
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superthight 

Joined: Jan '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 50 (F)
Posts: 752
i see its unbelivable and truly unknown call.must post it from a video so we can justify it moreclearly and understandable ,your hand suppose to best of it but can we say that russian just missclick it or it should be a fair fold.

     
  6-Jun-15, 07:37   #3
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 6197
Next time post a handhistory much better to read Thumbs Up
Maybe he was committed dunno hard to tell without a handhistory for me cos like you write it it takes ages to understand, with a hh its just 1 sec Agree

Anyway stars is not rigged for sure, and yes you see horrible play, and after 10 times a suckout you get a little bit doubty about this, we been there all Evil
But for these horrible calls you make profit, it there was only math good calls we dont make profit and were losing or break even, so hail to these russsians Worship Worship Worship

     
  6-Jun-15, 09:22   #4
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lukasb 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Croatia
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 1735
it's a bit hard to tell from what ur saying why he called you.

How much bigger stack than you? 36s, did he make a flush draw? how big was your all-in bet in comparison with what was already in the middle? was the Villain a very aggressive player ( possibly drunk?!? ) ?

Details my friend, details...

The way you explain it only shoes your point of view to what you think is the reason behind it, try to be a bit neutral next time so we can draw our own conclusions.

Best of luck!

     
  6-Jun-15, 11:23   #5
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8648
1st and most important rule of poker states: "don't underestimate the power of stupidity".
also you shouldn't think that if some tourney you're playing has a high buy-in to you, also has a high buy-in to your opponents- maybe he has dropped down from nosebleeds to have some fun.

     
  6-Jun-15, 12:01   #6
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peronibar 

Joined: Apr '11
Location: Montenegro
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 191
For me jokerstars have the worst softver in all poker room,i cant win with AA ,then i try somehow to win,go alin preflop and beaten by some rusian ,ukranian or brazilian gay.Yesterday aa lose against a9 ,fcng joke.

     
  6-Jun-15, 16:57   #7
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av1966 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1503
Hello my friends and fellow mobsters

Well Robdeejay sorry for you bad run but you got to understand that some guys play poker like a roulette wish for a strike of luck and sometimes they get it Confused Confused

Those are the kamikaze players that can breack all you effort on a tournament Aww crap! but hopefully another time another crazy guy will double you up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Don´t forget to be happy and enjoy life

     
  6-Jun-15, 17:50   #8
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Heskor 
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 2659
Hi mate yeah poker can be hard sometimes due to bad luck and those thing you called variance you already know about it , so what we can do in this situation is to laugh it off take a vacation and come back and if you come back and it is still the same then go back and play more if still same, take a break just do not let it affect you as all people go through this and in the end you will win and you will get back up, also sometimes you run hot!

     
  6-Jun-15, 21:41   #9
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4873
Poker is a game of skill. Part of that skill is knowing when to make the most stupidest of calls at the right time to win a nice pot. The etiquette of poker does not always apply and just cos you have a winning hand early on does not mean you win in the end.

     
  6-Jun-15, 23:51   #10
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MaxiArma 

Joined: Jul '12
Location: Argentina
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 116
The real poker is alive and face, there is real variance
The online poker always gives to think it is not random but induced
If one day someone comes to see that the programs are online poker rigged the whole system collapsed and businesses will have huge losses to be verifiable scam Thumbs Down

     
  7-Jun-15, 00:14   #11
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: Hungary
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 4685
Posted by peronibar:
For me jokerstars have the worst softver in all poker room,i cant win with AA ,then i try somehow to win,go alin preflop and beaten by some rusian ,ukranian or brazilian gay.Yesterday aa lose against a9 ,fcng joke.

Nobody wins with the Anonim Alcoholics. They are a cult you know.
But I would heavily advise you to take some time learn about variance in pokergames, so you might pick up some useful ideas about when and why your cards get beaten by a lesser hand...

     
  7-Jun-15, 13:56   #12
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peronibar 

Joined: Apr '11
Location: Montenegro
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 191
Posted by bowie1984:
Posted by peronibar:
For me jokerstars have the worst softver in all poker room,i cant win with AA ,then i try somehow to win,go alin preflop and beaten by some rusian ,ukranian or brazilian gay.Yesterday aa lose against a9 ,fcng joke.

Nobody wins with the Anonim Alcoholics. They are a cult you know.
But I would heavily advise you to take some time learn about variance in pokergames, so you might pick up some useful ideas about when and why your cards get beaten by a lesser hand...

Thank u on ur advice Big Smile can u purpose some book to read than Confused
But i was telling about softver in pokerstars,i know that i can beaten with 72 or smthing else ,but every time lose with pocket aa is not normal.

     
  8-Jun-15, 11:31   #13
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
No one knows why he called, most likely just an idiot, unless you haven't explained it well and he was pot-committed as Doomdy suggested.

Anyway, it's not a "$300K" tourney, it's an $11 tourney (or whatever it costs). It's not about the prizepool, its about the buyin (unless you're on the final table).

EDIT: BTW - PokerStars considers an $11 buyin to be 'low' stakes (slightly above micro) - and so do I. I often d**k around in $10-$11 tourneys. And if you think you're playing serious players in an $11 tourney, you're mistaken. I rarely play poker these days, but I've played in plenty of $100+ buyin games and believe me, you see plenty of dumb s**t in those games too.

But the game you're talking about is a huge-field, low buyin game, of course you're going to see some stupid s**t.

F**k - sometimes I'm playing games like that, buy it's the tail-end of a 10hr session and it dawns on me the tourney has at least another 5hours to go and I realise there is zero chance I am staying awake for that s**t and I just throw-in with whatever two cards I'm dealt.

Edited by jessthehuman (Monday, June 08, 2015 @ 11:36 GMT)


     
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