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  28-Jun-15, 19:49   #1
Are you ready to play Hold'em 6 Plus? +1 
Pygmalion69 

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Everyone is wondering where Phil Ivey and Tom are "durrrr" Dwan not yet appeared in the World Series of Poker 2015
The answer would seem obvious: if they are not playing in Vegas, should be playing elsewhere. Probably if we took a flight to Asia, and we put us to seek the continent's big game, there would find them
After years of playing NL Hold'em, PLO and Chinese Poker, these legends of the poker world found a twist to the game that, according to them, becomes much more interesting game
It you are playing NL Hold'emm but removed all the 2s, 3s, 4s and 5s in the deck. So I called 6 Plus Hold'em. This creates many games and this, in turn, creates enormous wells. And if there huge jackpots, there are Ivey and Dwan.
When giving advice, both were conclusive: the bankroll care because the swings are great Aww crap!

     
  29-Jun-15, 03:30   #2
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LucasGeo 

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We already knew that both Tom Dwan and Phil Ivey were boycotting this year’s World Series of Poker (WSOP) festival – at least the majority of it anyway – to grind in Macau’s infamously huge cash games, but most wouldn’t have known about the new version of No Limit Hold’em they’d been busy mixing it up in.

Well, according to a new interview which features both poker legends, they’ve been consistently playing a previously unheard of variant dubbed “Six Plus Hold’em” which sees the dealer remove all cards lower than sixes (deuces to fives) before the cards fly. Aces can still make a low straight, but the board would have to read 6-7-8-9 instead of 2-3-4-5.

“And in 6 Plus it’s a lot closer, so everyone needs to gamble more, think more about what to do”, adds a healthy looking Dwan. “Players can’t just be lazy or wait for a good hand, which makes for a less fun game.”

     
  29-Jun-15, 06:43   #3
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pochui 

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Hello all the wonderful mobsters out there, this is your friend flashfaust01 from Japan, somewhere in Asia writing to you, wish a good day to each and everyone of you

no i am not ready to play Hold'em 6 Plus

I am very happy to be a part of such a great community, wish you the best of luck at the tables, off the tables, behind the tables, under the tables and in your life in general.
Yours truly flashfaust01.

     
  29-Jun-15, 18:24   #4
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shokaku 

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Interesting game. But i guess a lot of players will be confused by the changed value of made hands. Here trips beat a straight and a flush beats a full house. And Dwan is quite wrong. Chances to get a good starting hand, or a good starting hand in the traditional form of hold'em, is higher.

     
  29-Jun-15, 18:28   #5
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RoninHarper 

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G'day mates


Hello all the wonderful mobsters out there, this is your friend Ronin from Canada, somewhere near the cold snow writing to you, wish a good day to each and everyone

I have absolutely NO interest in this variation of poker at all!


I am very happy to be a part of such a great community, wish you the best of luck at the tables, off the tables, behind the tables, under the tables and in your life in general.
Yours truly Ronin, somewhere near the cold snows.


be cool amigos

Ronin Cool

     
  29-Jun-15, 19:20   #6
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pinotte 
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I tried most variations of poker mainly in freeroll some i like and some i dont play so in a freeroll i would certainly try this new form of poker just to see how to play the game and if i like it or not enought to play it for money. Smile Smile

     
  29-Jun-15, 19:33   #7
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TheMachineQC 

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Posted by shokaku:
Interesting game. But i guess a lot of players will be confused by the changed value of made hands. Here trips beat a straight and a flush beats a full house. And Dwan is quite wrong. Chances to get a good starting hand, or a good starting hand in the traditional form of hold'em, is higher.


It could be confusing because of what we're used to in the begining... but it actually makes sense that full house is worth less than a flush in this format. I'm pretty sure that with the low cards removed, these hand value changes work. Mathematically speaking, the flush becomes really hard to make, and all pair/2pairs/set/full house/quads type of hands become a lot less rare because there's less cards in the deck. The A 6 7 8 9 straight thing is pretty weird, but I like it too because it gives that little added value to holding an ace in your hand just like in NLHE.

I'd like to try it someday!

Edited by TheMachineQC (Monday, June 29, 2015 @ 19:40 GMT)


     
  29-Jun-15, 19:47   #8
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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It's interesting to know that while Ivey and Dwan are two of the world’s best poker players and understanding complexities of various poker games may come quicker and easier to them than most, both readily admit that a learning process is involved with Six Plus Hold’em.

“I’m still trying to figure out the game myself,” stated Dwan, “as I’m sure a lot of other people are. You make stronger hands than normal, obviously, because there’s less cards in the deck. Your percent chance of winning when you have a better hand….you’re going to be a smaller favorite, usually, than in regular Hold’em. And that results in people gambling more.”

This seemingly more luck-dependent game than the conventional Hold'em would definitely be better fit/suited to recreational players rather than to serious grinders/professionals, I guess.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Monday, June 29, 2015 @ 20:02 GMT)


     
  30-Jun-15, 12:30   #9
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Pygmalion69 

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Ivey has clearly come out in favor of 6PH: "I love this game. It's fun. Much action. There are many big pots. It requires great skill and some luck. "
Dwan has also made positive statements on this new variant: "The game makes fewer differences between the plays and that's why the players participate more and not be too passive or wait for a strong hand."

     
  30-Jun-15, 16:20   #10
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TheMachineQC 

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Yeah that's what I thought too... These guys love action just like me, so I guess most Pot limit Omaha players would like this new variant once they get used to it. More action, more fun, more ups and downs, less nits... Can't be bad. But yeah If you're a tight player who likes to wait 3 rotations to get a monster hand in position to play in NLHE this is probably not for you Blink

     
  30-Jun-15, 16:31   #11
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bowie1984 

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Posted by Pygmalion69:
When giving advice, both were conclusive: the bankroll care because the swings are great Aww crap!

What the actual fcuk is the meaning of this?

     
  30-Jun-15, 17:11   #12
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TheMachineQC 

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lol that sentence is a bit weird I agree xD

I think he meant that because there is more swings, you have to play smaller portions of your total bankroll so that you don't risk too much at once.

Anyways, the swings are great in NLHE too... Most of very tight players can't handle the swings and that's why they adopt a boring style.

     
  30-Jun-15, 17:55   #13
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bowie1984 

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The swings are great on a baseball game too, but I swear more and more thread opening posts require a decoder for me - I am just getting old here...

     
  1-Jul-15, 13:59   #14
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Pygmalion69 

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New Game, New Strategy

“That’s one of the interesting things about new games,” Dwan states, answering an interviewer’s question while seated next to Ivey, presumably in Macau where both have been known to favor the high stakes cash games. “You got to figure out, OK, straights are a little more important here.”
Also more important is the likelihood of increased action, which may draw more recreational players to the game. NLHE is often viewed by casual players as requiring a bit too much patience while waiting for good cards.
“It’s a little bit more exciting than playing regular No Limit Hold’em because you get to play more hands and there’s a lot more luck involved,” Ivey stated, providing his take on Six Plus Hold’em. “So I think it’s a lot more exciting for a new player.”

     
  12-Jul-15, 21:50   #15
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LucasGeo 

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I read somewhere that some online poker rooms are evaluating the possibility of incorporating Hold'em 6 Plus and already being tested in a beta format within a closed circle of selected players
Will it be true?
From my point of view seems a doomed game that will not have too much acceptance among conventional players Thumbs Down

     
  13-Jul-15, 17:30   #16
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DaCapo71 
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Not really good, that one of the best poker Players are not playing the WSOP this year. This was the Major tourney in th epoker world and a lot of Hobby players watch this nice tourney in the tv. And we will see the best players at the final table!

     
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