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  24-Aug-15, 19:22   #1
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kelster 
Joined: Nov '13
Location: Australia
Age: 43 (F)
Posts: 16
I have played a lot of poker online and I would call myself a reasonable player, but the more I have played 888 poker the more I am convinced that either 888 Poker themselves are cheats or somebody working for them. The cards that have been coming out especially more so lately are unbelievable. It is like the hands are rigged or loaded to eliminate players and I see it all to often for example a hand I played the other day I go in on pocket 6,A two other players have also bet on this hand. First cards dealt in middle of table are 6,A,A. So I have a small bet thinking unless somebody is holding two Aces I got fullhouse, 2nd person raises and goes all in the 3rd player goes all in, so of course I match the bets next two cards out the middle are Q,2 I loose hand and so does second person holding A,J as 3rd person was holding two Q,Q yet he had gone all in whilst only 6,A,A was out, there were around 300 people left in tournament out of around 2500 starters. To me to get that close to the end of the game and two Aces are out in the middle of the table and your holding two queens you would either have to be an idiot to bet on that or you somehow know what next cars are. I have been seeing these kind of hands come out all to often lately just think the cards are loaded or somebody has or been given access to 888 pokers program. This is only one example of many similar hands played lately....how do you possibly loose to these kind of hans ALL THE TIME. Another example more often than not I loose when holding two Aces. I would say that to loose more times than you win when holding A,A has to be rigged or cheats....Does Anybody else have an opinion on this ?

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even to the extent of removing the name of the site out of my post ....INTERESTING

Edited by kelster (Monday, August 24, 2015 @ 19:26 GMT)


     
  24-Aug-15, 20:34   #2
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crash58 
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (M)
Posts: 2423
We see this complaint about every poker site there is.
you say 2500 entrants, so it's prob a freeroll.
Do you really think 888 or any other poker site is going to try and cheat you out of a few cents.
It's just bad luck, and that happens in poker.
i.ve had what i thought was the winning hand only to have someone call with s**t, and hit, it happens, you just have to get over it.
nobody is trying to cheat you out of pennies.


I don't get the last part of your post, removing the name of the site out of your post.
Hmmm it's still there.

     
  25-Aug-15, 15:05   #3
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pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 72 (M)
Posts: 3448
You have been here for two years and for sure you are not a regular posting on this forum however it also look like you do not read this forum post because you would have seen many complaints like yours. Not always saying that site is cheating but many times poker is rigged. If you had seen that and answers given to peoples that are talking like you i thing that you would not have written this post. These bad beats happens on all sites and if you are not able to take them then you know what you have to do. Thumbs Down Thumbs Down

     
  25-Aug-15, 16:45   #4
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 37 (F)
Posts: 2243
We have all heard that complaint,many many times and to be honest no one knows how the software works exactly but they supposedly have it independently verified.
What I always say to myself is if it was rigged why don't people get a chip lead and just go all in every hand,I would if I thought the chip leader always won and why is it that the players who consistently win decent money do it by just playing good poker and not by being crazy.
I think a lot of players forget that the odds in hold em are not that great even if it is AA v 72off you will lose around 1 in 10 at least.
If your opponent has 7 8 or 10 J,aces will lose around 2 in 5 times, they may also get all the chips in hoping you will fold.A good player with a decent chip lead will also know they have a big edge on you no matter what cards they have and they have the chips to risk on spec hands.
My maths may be off but I would suggest not thinking about corrupt software if you are going to play online,it will drive you crazy and make it seem far worse,everyone plays with the same software so if you think aggressive players win more then try playing like them.
If someone had access to 888 software do you really think they would be playing freerolls or low stakes tourneys. Smile

     
  25-Aug-15, 16:56   #5
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jeffaboy 
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 20 (M)
Posts: 856
Tbh your logic is just way off, if you find it weird that someone bets his queens on an a-a-6 board you can't even consider yourself a decent player. 2nd of all your 6s weren't the best starting hand at all so don't be surprise your 6s dont hold up vs aj and queens. 3rd of all bad luck happens to everyone and on every site so stop complaining that poker is rigged or f**k off to play some other game

     
  25-Aug-15, 17:07   #6
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av1966 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1500
Hello my friends and fellow mobsters

Well this is another way to approach the online gaming some say it´s rigged some say it cheats but they all only complain when they lose when those kind of hands go there way they think well this was genious play,I´m the man ,I´m on fire

Well that´s poker, that´s life got to deal with it

Don´t forget to be happy and enjoy life

     
  25-Aug-15, 17:25   #7
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 9671
Just take a break from it and play somewhere else.
There are many BRM members playing there, and i havent seen many complaints.
All i see actually is some winning , in all the promotions they are having. Smile

     
  25-Aug-15, 17:30   #8
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kelster 
Joined: Nov '13
Location: Australia
Age: 43 (F)
Posts: 16
yes it ws removed when it first went up I tried editing and no could not add name in ...look tonight and its been added in again ...INTERESTING


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I actually made a mistake in this post I had pocket 6 6
thats why I thought had fullhouse and I see these hands all to often


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I also understand there is a lot of luck in poker but to be done by hands like this all the time I find strange...I also find strange that in the big cash tournaments I have never won anything big ...the amount of times I have finished one of the bigger money is crazy guess we will never know for sure


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and jeffaboy I was only giving and asking for an opinion NOT FOR COMPLETE RUDENESS AND U CALL YOURSELF A GOOD PLAYER U WOULD NEED LUCK FOR FOR Q TO COME OUT IN LAST TWO CARDS. YES I WOULD BET ON IT BUT DEF NOT ALL IN. I play on my skill not on luck




Edited by kelster (Tuesday, August 25, 2015 @ 18:05 GMT)


     
  25-Aug-15, 18:24   #9
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5592

Big Smile< YA....888 seems to be a pretty good site that I should consider hooking up to...! Never really hear any complaints about them with the exception of the odd petty indifference...!

Big Smile< I'm figuring maybe there will be some big promo for PP members if they hook up after the merger...! Smile

     
  26-Aug-15, 08:24   #10
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4716
I always come back to the twin concepts of bluffing or stupidity! The determination of which one depends on the player and the outcome. Maybe the player with QQ was trying to represent he had at least one A and had the best hand! How wrong he was! However, he will also have considered that if there are 2 A's on the board, the probability that someone has an A is reduced, therefore his QQ is pretty good! So, it's not such a bad bet. If we folded a premium hand every time we saw an A we would never win (yes of course we may lose some too but winning is the idea, not limping to ITM min cash. So, his all in was intended to scare you all,away, however it didn't work and he would have been feeling pretty sick when all in you turned over 66. But then the concept of probability took over and he hit a Q (which essentially is the same probability of your 6 coming out on the flop as it did).

So, I imagine, the outcome is , no cheating, no rigging, just POKER.

Keep smiling Kelster.

     
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