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Yeah.. he was in lucky moment and you in unlucky moment. Life always need luck that is absolute ! no skill involve at this case just normal play. I hope you didn't loose so much at that day. Did you direct change table ?
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Playing AJ out of position often times puts you in an awkward situation. The UTG raiser precisely put you on Ax hand and extracted maximum value. I won't fold there either, especially in cash games. I guess you probably didn't need to even complete your small blind with 42 off in the second hand.
Good luck next time!
Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (10 February 2016 @ 17:14 GMT)
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The number one was a very dangerous board with a pair on. You had only pair of ace with a good kicker and you went all the way and lose IMO you should have fold.
The second one The guy went for a gut shot draw all the way and got two better pair then yours this one was IMO a donk call from the other player but he got lucky.
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Posted by StheP: I should fold AJ on A22 board? thats sooooo -EV
I really dont like how u played it. - on micros raise is usually big hand - what u beat with AJ on A22 board vs guy who raised UTG? ( only bluff i think) - so yeah u should fold to raise i know i would
oh and next time dont post result - u will get better answers
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Posted by shokaku: First hand is just a cooler. Nearly impossible to find a fold here at the river, especially as we split the pot with AK and AQ now.
Second hand we don't need to get involved with our jumk. We are not deep enough to win a big pot if we hit a miracle flop
on second hand I limped in pot from SB and floped 2 pair... I put it in with best hand by a lot... I dont think its mistake there, but it isnt actual play, because it was right after first hand, I click on rebuy button, but it would fill up next hand...
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Posted by vsemoje:
Posted by StheP: I should fold AJ on A22 board? thats sooooo -EV
I really dont like how u played it. - on micros raise is usually big hand - what u beat with AJ on A22 board vs guy who raised UTG? ( only bluff i think) - so yeah u should fold to raise i know i would
oh and next time dont post result - u will get better answers
I have history with him... he is good player, knows to bluff even to 3-bet bluff.. and I cought him these days a couple of time with his silly 3-bets and make nice profit from him... but he is realy good player, and agressive, thats why I check flop and wait him to bluff... I was suprised that he check too, but we went to turn, and I decided to bet small to induce his bluff, like he did... size of bet was odd to me and suspicious, but I called, and than on river I put value bet, because I tought maybe he got 9 or even some strong pocket pair, but when he reshoved, I was sure that he had ace, and I was like phuck it... pokerstars will rake this and I will get less amount than when I enter pot... but when I saw he got aces I was shocked...
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The first hand he just out played you, standard 3BB raise pre, checked the flop with full house he knew he cant bet there without losing you or revealing his pocket AA, so he set a trap, praying u had Ax type a hand which u did, after your bet postflop he was on a mission to extract from u as much as he can, right away rerasing you, u called river the 3rd deuce completes your full but his is waaaaay better, the only mistake u`ve done in that hand u excluded AA out of his range, putting him on a hand like yours Ax, nothing u could have done there or some1 else for that matter. Second hand pure luck, if u had money after the turn and bet big i know for sure he would have folded, but u were already allin the 3rd hand in the pot decided to check as him on the turn giving him free card, on which he improved and won the hand, pure luck no skill there what so ever. Stay strong bro, ull brush this thing off
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I brushed, those things dont get to me... but I wouldnt call that mistake that I didnt put him on AA... because I had ace, there were one ace on flop, and do you know what chances are that he is holding 2 last aces in deck? so it was hard for me to put him on aces...also you didnt see that 99 would play same... I would be more scared of 99 than of AA there in that situation... but as I said I was sure he had Ax type of hand...
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True true, chances of him having AA there pretty slim, but he did, u should have 3bet pre just to have a better read on his hand ahhhhhhhh i hate jokerstars they profit collecting rake, so of course they`ll program their software to generate more rake, thus putting players in situations like this, or sometimes the "baby sitting" is just outrages like the second hand fukc jokerstars man, and good luck with your nerves, hope u have some left for children and grand children
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Posted by SBEP: True true, chances of him having AA there pretty slim, but he did, u should have 3bet pre just to have a better read on his hand ahhhhhhhh i hate jokerstars they profit collecting rake, so of course they`ll program their software to generate more rake, thus putting players in situations like this, or sometimes the "baby sitting" is just outrages like the second hand fukc jokerstars man, and good luck with your nerves, hope u have some left for children and grand children
it was raise, and call...I raised he called... couldnt 3-bet there O.o
Posted by StheP: I brushed, those things dont get to me... but I wouldnt call that mistake that I didnt put him on AA... because I had ace, there were one ace on flop, and do you know what chances are that he is holding 2 last aces in deck? so it was hard for me to put him on aces...
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Posted by StheP: I brushed, those things dont get to me... but I wouldnt call that mistake that I didnt put him on AA... because I had ace, there were one ace on flop, and do you know what chances are that he is holding 2 last aces in deck? so it was hard for me to put him on aces...also you didnt see that 99 would play same... I would be more scared of 99 than of AA there in that situation... but as I said I was sure he had Ax type of hand...
I am sure most of the time we will do what you did at that situation ! what ever his bet would not promise he had AA. I agree with your analyze . That hand just like get bad beat. I think you no need change your strategy cause that hand. Seldom met hand like that, most of the time he had AK or AQ.
P.S : I suggest next time if you make threat like this you post it step by step ( flop first thread - turn next threat and last river), don't complete directly so we will know their analyze fairly ( more real )
ahhhhhhhh i hate jokerstars 
they profit collecting rake, so of course they`ll program their software to generate more rake, thus putting players in situations like this, or sometimes the "baby sitting" is just outrages like the second hand 
