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  11-Feb-16, 11:43   #1
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1453
Hi all,

I need your suggestion, please help. Just now I played Full On Freeroll on FT, and I had lucky moment.
Unfortunately I couldn't maximize it, so I just got $ 0.43. I lost change to collect chip several time, even my feeling told me this is winning card should be played ( something like that ) but I fold cause crap card like 10 3, 73 or trouble maker hand like Q 10 os K 9 etc. And in fact that was winning card.

I often saw player play crap card and win cause they were in lucky moment. I never reach final table at
tourney with a lot participant like that ( 1 K player up ), Is possible win just base on skill or I have to
maximize my chance with lucky moment and play crap card ?

Please give my suggestion. Thanks

     
  11-Feb-16, 12:07   #2
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superthight 

Joined: Jan '13
Location: Philippines
Age: 50 (F)
Posts: 745
guess i cannot do anything about it just wish u luck next time does crappy players seems to rich or out of their minds and you just got yur self in trouble how badluck is it but wont you worry u can hold them in the long run

     
  11-Feb-16, 18:01   #3
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 6208
To go really deep in a tourney, one has usually to take some risks. It will be difficult to achive by playing only premium cards. You get them rarely, and they don't win every time. So to widen your range is not a bad idea. Start playing one of the trouble makers here and there in position, and look how it works.

     
  11-Feb-16, 18:33   #4
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TheMachineQC 

Joined: Apr '10
Location: Canada
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 1880
Posted by shokaku:
To go really deep in a tourney, one has usually to take some risks. It will be difficult to achive by playing only premium cards. You get them rarely, and they don't win every time. So to widen your range is not a bad idea. Start playing one of the trouble makers here and there in position, and look how it works.


Exactly. A lot of players mistake being patient for a skill. Being patient has to be a PART of a poker attributes, but I wouldn't say it's a skill. Anyone can be patient, it's really not that hard. 5-bet shoving every hand doesn't take much skill either... Poker is about balance. Be agressive when your opponent tries to show strength, make them doubt themselves... It's psychological warfare!

     
  11-Feb-16, 18:36   #5
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 1881
When you get to the later stages of a tournament the blinds start getting bigger in proportion to the average stack, you often find that you can't wait for a safe hand or a good hand. Unless you're really lucky you have to play crap cards, the opposite of what you say in the op. It's true that good players are patient but good players don't wait to have better cards than their opponents. Good players make their own luck.

The crucial thing is as Shokaku mentions, position. Position, opponents and reputation are sometimes more important than cards. Those troublemakers may get you into trouble but if you play them in position and aren't afraid to c-bet and you can let go of them when you're beat, they can earn you chips between the big payouts. The other crucial point is not to play too many. If you always play J 10 or above in position, you'll probably play too many hands, your opponents won't give you credit and your c-bets won't work.

Finally, it's important not to be involved in too many hands. If you keep calling to see a flop, even a cheap flop, your stack begins to dwindle. I've noticed this to my own cost. I play well, build up my stack to table-leader, maybe start to bully the table, but I haven't noticed other players catch me up, I haven't noticed the blinds creep up, or my stack to shrink one or two blinds at a time. If you lose lots of small pots it will cost you. Try and win more than half the hands you play, best hand or not.

     
  11-Feb-16, 22:22   #6
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4711
I always remember hearing somewhere that the key to playing poker is not laying the right hands at the right time, but playing the wrong hands at the right time. This way you maximise your opportunity to win, but also take a manage risk of losing. You win nothing by just playing premium hands.

     
  12-Feb-16, 01:05   #7
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pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 72 (M)
Posts: 3445
Since a while there are so many peoples playing poker like if they were playing casino it is now very difficult to read players.

However if you continue to play your game if it is TAG then on the long term you will beat them and be profitable in your game.

This does not mean you gone win tournaments with over 1K players but you will reach ITM often and probably win one once i a while. Worship Worship Worship

     
  13-Feb-16, 01:52   #8
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1453
Thanks all for your valuable comment. I wish could practice at the table and improve my skill.
Yesterday I played at same tourney and finish 12nd place, not a lot crap card I played so I have poor
chips, 4BB left when I shove with K8s against 1 opp with AA and I lost Sad

     
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