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  25-Mar-16, 21:04   #1
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pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
Location: Canada
Age: 73 (M)
Posts: 3494
I was playing the BRM freeroll for leaderboard on Party Poker. I started very slowly not having cards and suddenly i started to get cards i win hands. There was around fifty players left and i was on the first twenty with a 30k stack.

When this hand come i am UTG with A Ko blinds 800/1600 i raised to 6,400 all fold except the BB that called. The flop come 4 Spade A Club 2 Diamond so i pushed all in and he called we open he show 3 3 the turn come 8 Club and river 5 Diamond for his straight.

For once i was doing pretty good in this tournament and this bad luck came. Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  25-Mar-16, 21:11   #2
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Tony_MON7ANA 

Joined: Mar '14
Location: Japan
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 4112
So disgusting.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Friday, March 25, 2016 @ 21:16 GMT)


     
  25-Mar-16, 21:52   #3
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
Too bad. I noticed you had a decent stack for quite a while, and then all of a sudden you were gone...

I'm doing well in these, finished ITM 4 times this week (2nd, 14th, 16th and today 17th), but it's getting harder; 502 players today...

     
  25-Mar-16, 23:15   #4
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682

... Big Smile< I got clobbered good in this one also today,...but I don't remember what the cards were...! If somebody gets me with a good hand played well,.....I figure no big deal,....but when some DONK A$$ED idiot beats you with his 9 2 off all in pre-flop,....well,....you tend to remember those hands...! Confused

     
  25-Mar-16, 23:21   #5
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4862
I plays this game tonight after coming 6th yesterday. I think I got to about 50th before I played a fantastic hand and got beaten by some random rubbish. I will try again tomorrow and look forward to seeing you BRM regulars there in the money and hopefully at the final table.

     
  26-Mar-16, 10:00   #6
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
I don't say you play bad or wrong, pinotte. but I suggest you try play slow for looking for leaderboard points. I tried at usual MTT , the result is more ITM I got even just very small profit.
I would very appreciate to anyone give suggest how to play hand like that, cause this type of hand I got very often .
I thought base on pot odds/implied odds villain should fold on flop, right ?

     
  26-Mar-16, 19:42   #7
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10033
One of the most annoying things. Hitting with just one card, that is.
Hitting it with two it makes it less painful.
At this point he had a pair, chasing the straight, gambled and the 5 came out.
better luck next time Smile

     
  27-Mar-16, 10:37   #8
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4862
Well. Last night after a pretty slow start, and making the first break still slightly over my starting chips, I managed to get to FT and get a pretty respectable (in my opinion) 5th place for a nice $3.55 on the leaderboard. I didn't see any other forum regs after about 50th place and I think IQA was the highest placed of us all (after me..). I can't wait to see the leaderboard to see how it's going for everyone.

     
  27-Mar-16, 11:59   #9
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 2016
Pinotte... I've noticed from your last couple of posts that you're very ummmm... 2009 with your bet sizing... and I think it's getting you into trouble too often.

While a few years ago, a standard raise was 3 to 4 big blinds plus limpers... that's just not the case now.

A smaller bet does the same job as a big bet, without committing too much of your stack and reducing your options post flop.

There's no need to think too much about the rationale behind it... but try to make an effort to reduce your raise amounts.

I suggest:

Early position, no limp, 2.5 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper
Mid position, no limp, 2.2 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper
Late position, no limp, 2 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper

You'll notice your results improve if you stick to this... I guarantee you

Big Smile

     
  27-Mar-16, 13:42   #10
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
Posted by yout85:
Pinotte... I've noticed from your last couple of posts that you're very ummmm... 2009 with your bet sizing... and I think it's getting you into trouble too often.

While a few years ago, a standard raise was 3 to 4 big blinds plus limpers... that's just not the case now.

A smaller bet does the same job as a big bet, without committing too much of your stack and reducing your options post flop.

There's no need to think too much about the rationale behind it... but try to make an effort to reduce your raise amounts.

I suggest:

Early position, no limp, 2.5 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper
Mid position, no limp, 2.2 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper
Late position, no limp, 2 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper

You'll notice your results improve if you stick to this... I guarantee you

Big Smile

But how does this help you get rid of people chasing draws? With such a small raise you'll get lots of callers, since you are giving them the odds to call. Your prime hands will be outdrawn a lot it seems.

     
  27-Mar-16, 13:59   #11
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 2016
You often get raised by anyone with anything half decent (so you can either reraise with premium or fold marginal - you lose less when you lose... but can still win big when you win), and the folks with worse cards... you want them to call. Gives you far more control over the hand.

     
  27-Mar-16, 14:42   #12
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
Posted by yout85:
You often get raised by anyone with anything half decent (so you can either reraise with premium or fold marginal - you lose less when you lose... but can still win big when you win), and the folks with worse cards... you want them to call. Gives you far more control over the hand.


No..no often get raised by anyone with anything half decent ( do you mean preflop or post flop ?)
They often just call pre flop, so what will you do on flop ? bet half pot or check (waiting their action) ?
If bet half pot and they just call, we still no have more information. If we check and they bet...hmmm...maybe they hit.
Please give your opinion
Smile
P.S : what's mean plus 0,5 per limper ? Is your suggestion preflop bet ?

Edited by Serpang (Sunday, March 27, 2016 @ 14:53 GMT)


     
  27-Mar-16, 15:16   #13
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MarcWinz 

Joined: Oct '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 644
Posted by yout85:
Pinotte... I've noticed from your last couple of posts that you're very ummmm... 2009 with your bet sizing... and I think it's getting you into trouble too often.

While a few years ago, a standard raise was 3 to 4 big blinds plus limpers... that's just not the case now.

A smaller bet does the same job as a big bet, without committing too much of your stack and reducing your options post flop.

There's no need to think too much about the rationale behind it... but try to make an effort to reduce your raise amounts.

I suggest:

Early position, no limp, 2.5 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper
Mid position, no limp, 2.2 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper
Late position, no limp, 2 big blinds
plus 0.5 bb per limper

You'll notice your results improve if you stick to this... I guarantee you

Big Smile


Interesting idea? I normally follow this format but in the opposite, however, if you follow these rules strictly, it will eventually become obvious to your opponents. I would advise a similar strategy, but vary it slightly.

Good luck to you all Big Smile

     
  27-Mar-16, 20:04   #14
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sammybeyo 

Joined: Mar '10
Location: Canada
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 282
Just read the above post that was a sick bad beat Its like that person with 33 knew the board was going to draw out like that once in a while a longshot hand such as that gets there its unlucky hope you do better in future leaderboard games Smile

     
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