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  29-Mar-16, 22:11   #1
My poker challenge, finally getting serious after 4 years :D 0 
WTGPxH3R0 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 27
Hello guys, I was the winning guy, tilting and dumping all his winnings,

I found this had to do with a lot of things going on outside my poker world.
It woke me up, got me motivated and dedicated.

So what's my new challenge?
Well study about poker more, hh analysis/finding leaks etc.

I have a coach reviewing me and helping me with finding my leaks, this also keeps me motivated because I have got someone to show I am getting better (or worse).

I start with somewhat 100$ish.

I have set some short term goals :

1. Playing 10k hands per week
2. spend 25% of the time on reviewing and reading
3. building a little bankroll on nl2

Long term goals:

1. Moving up to nl10
2. Live healthier (sports, fruits, etc...)
3. Avoid Tilting

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Well pretty happy with day 1, made a few mistakes but that's what's I am going to work on.

BTW. I will post some HH in this thread later if you are interrested in them.

Edited by WTGPxH3R0 (Tuesday, March 29, 2016 @ 22:18 GMT)

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  29-Mar-16, 22:55   #2
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yout85 
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30 bb/100 hands is a great start... keep it up! (Although that will be tough long term)

And I'm always interested to see hand histories Thumbs Up

Good luck.

     
  30-Mar-16, 01:57   #3
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SBEP 

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Good luck with your challenge WTGPxH3R0, hope it all goes well according to plan, i would like to know also how its going with the challenge, so keep us updated if u want, and if u have any hand that you would want to discuss, i would for sure want to see it, so again good luck on your journey bro.

     
  30-Mar-16, 07:59   #4
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Serpang 
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You start your new challenge nicely, have a plan, target and how to improve your skill Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
I wish you can discipline with your plan and reach your target smoothly Smile Will a lot member here
like your HH and discuss it. Good luck

     
  30-Mar-16, 09:28   #5
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WTGPxH3R0 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
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thank you for your interrest. Every thursday I will def. post some HH to review.
further I will just post some every now and than.

after each day I will post the results of that day, so stay tuned Smile

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PokerStars Hand #151155443240: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2016/03/30 5:32:12 ET
Table 'Libra' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 1:4ogo-go ($0.80 in chips)
Seat 2: MeTakca ($2.13 in chips)
Seat 3: WTGPxH3R0 ($1.62 in chips)
Seat 4: azrawith ($2 in chips)
Seat 5: zacky922 ($2 in chips)
Seat 6: BRAT PIDD ($2.56 in chips)
Seat 7: xxSINISTER94 ($3.34 in chips)
Seat 8: zhaojian666 ($3.59 in chips)
BRAT PIDD: posts small blind $0.01
xxSINISTER94: posts big blind $0.02
kaosluntik: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WTGPxH3R0 [6h 6c]
zhaojian666: raises $0.04 to $0.06
1:4ogo-go: folds
MeTakca: folds
WTGPxH3R0: calls $0.06
azrawith: folds
zacky922: calls $0.06
BRAT PIDD: folds
xxSINISTER94: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6d Qc]
zhaojian666: checks
WTGPxH3R0: bets $0.08
zacky922: calls $0.08
zhaojian666: folds
*** TURN *** [Qd 6d Qc] Jack of diamonds
WTGPxH3R0: bets $0.08
zacky922: calls $0.08
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6d Qc Jd] King of spades
WTGPxH3R0: bets $0.25
zacky922: raises $0.41 to $0.66
WTGPxH3R0: raises $0.74 to $1.40 and is all-in
zacky922: calls $0.74
*** SHOW DOWN ***
WTGPxH3R0: shows [6h 6c] (a full house, Sixes full of Queens)
zacky922: shows [Kh Qh] (a full house, Queens full of Kings)
zacky922 collected $3.21 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.33 | Rake $0.12
Board [Qd 6d Qc Jd Ks]
Seat 1: 1:4ogo-go folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MeTakca folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: WTGPxH3R0 showed [6h 6c] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Queens
Seat 4: azrawith folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: zacky922 (button) showed [Kh Qh] and won ($3.21) with a full house, Queens full of Kings
Seat 6: BRAT PIDD (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: xxSINISTER94 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: zhaojian666 folded on the Flop



Slow played it a little too hard, but prob. didnt get him out of the pot anyway. Worship

Edited by WTGPxH3R0 (Wednesday, March 30, 2016 @ 09:35 GMT)


     
  30-Mar-16, 09:36   #6
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marqis 

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Great 28.5 BB/100 winrate! Small sample though, but nice start.

Are you single tabling?

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You're not using auto reload to max? I think you should, to maximize value out of your good hands. Also I think players that don't, look a bit fishy.

You would have lost your stack in the posted hand whichever way you would have played it. No getting away from that, I think.
I do think your bets are very small, I understand you want callers with such a great hand, but this quickly becomes obvious to your opponents, because you can't do that when you are worried about opponents completing their draw, in other situations.

Edited by marqis (Wednesday, March 30, 2016 @ 09:48 GMT)


     
  30-Mar-16, 09:51   #7
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WTGPxH3R0 
Joined: Mar '12
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Posted by marqis:
Great 28.5 BB/100 winrate! Small sample though, but nice start.

Are you single tabling?

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You're not using auto reload to max? I think you should, to maximize value out of your good hands. Also I think players that don't, look a bit fishy.

You would have lost your stack in the posted hand whichever way you would have played it. No getting away from that, I think.
I do think your bets are very small, I understand you want callers with such a great hand, but this quickly becomes obvious to your opponents, because you can't do that when you are worried about opponents completing their draw, in other situations.



no 6 - 8 tables ... depending if I play on laptop with or without monitor Smile

Yeah I set the autorebuy now Smile , and yeah it was small bets, but I was giving him hands like AJ AQ KJ KQ so I was indeed worried about the A or Q river, but was affraid he would fold the AJ or KJ hand like... but you are right about the bet sizing Smile

Edited by WTGPxH3R0 (Wednesday, March 30, 2016 @ 09:55 GMT)


     
  30-Mar-16, 10:22   #8
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Serpang 
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Posted by WTGPxH3R0:
Posted by marqis:
Great 28.5 BB/100 winrate! Small sample though, but nice start.

Are you single tabling?

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You're not using auto reload to max? I think you should, to maximize value out of your good hands. Also I think players that don't, look a bit fishy.

You would have lost your stack in the posted hand whichever way you would have played it. No getting away from that, I think.
I do think your bets are very small, I understand you want callers with such a great hand, but this quickly becomes obvious to your opponents, because you can't do that when you are worried about opponents completing their draw, in other situations.



no 6 - 8 tables ... depending if I play on laptop with or without monitor Smile

Yeah I set the autorebuy now Smile , and yeah it was small bets, but I was giving him hands like AJ AQ KJ KQ so I was indeed worried about the A or Q river, but was affraid he would fold the AJ or KJ hand like... but you are right about the bet sizing Smile


So you want villain fold or call ? Smile I think you have to assertive to make decision Smile cause it determine sizing of your bet. I think villain will call even you shove on flop. I don't agree your shove on river, just few cent different but important if you want play well. don't forget you figure him maybe had KQ Smile

     
  30-Mar-16, 10:43   #9
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WTGPxH3R0 
Joined: Mar '12
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Posts: 27
Posted by Serpang:
Posted by WTGPxH3R0:
Posted by marqis:
Great 28.5 BB/100 winrate! Small sample though, but nice start.

Are you single tabling?

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You're not using auto reload to max? I think you should, to maximize value out of your good hands. Also I think players that don't, look a bit fishy.

You would have lost your stack in the posted hand whichever way you would have played it. No getting away from that, I think.
I do think your bets are very small, I understand you want callers with such a great hand, but this quickly becomes obvious to your opponents, because you can't do that when you are worried about opponents completing their draw, in other situations.



no 6 - 8 tables ... depending if I play on laptop with or without monitor Smile

Yeah I set the autorebuy now Smile , and yeah it was small bets, but I was giving him hands like AJ AQ KJ KQ so I was indeed worried about the A or Q river, but was affraid he would fold the AJ or KJ hand like... but you are right about the bet sizing Smile


So you want villain fold or call ? Smile I think you have to assertive to make decision Smile cause it determine sizing of your bet. I think villain will call even you shove on flop. I don't agree your shove on river, just few cent different but important if you want play well. don't forget you figure him maybe had KQ Smile



yeah it's that I did'nt play it idealy Smile that's why I started this thread, hired a coach and started the challenge Smile ... to learn and hopefully dont make same mistake again Big Smile

ty for your help all <3


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wow ... I was doing pretty good, but than right before I was planning to stop I lost a lot of Full houses and 2 pairs, making me dive into the negative section.

Going to take a break for now, will be back in the evening with another session.

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after a 15 min break I played for another 45 minutes... but done for now Smile

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one of the stupid decisions I made

PokerStars Hand #151158152541: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2016/03/30 7:12:09 ET
Table 'Libra' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: alex savel ($2.21 in chips)
Seat 2: kuelas ($2.09 in chips)
Seat 3: WTGPxH3R0 ($2.18 in chips)
Seat 4: puscherStar ($1.10 in chips)
Seat 5: zacky922 ($6.41 in chips)
Seat 6: Willis115 ($1.15 in chips)
Seat 7: xxSINISTER94 ($5.10 in chips)
zacky922: posts small blind $0.01
Willis115: posts big blind $0.02
msgyh055: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WTGPxH3R0 [Kd Ad]
xxSINISTER94: folds
alex savel: folds
kuelas: raises $0.04 to $0.06
WTGPxH3R0: calls $0.06
puscherStar: folds
zacky922: folds
Willis115: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [8d Jd 4c]
Willis115: checks
kuelas: bets $0.10
WTGPxH3R0: calls $0.10
Willis115: folds
*** TURN *** [8d Jd 4c] 2 of clubs
kuelas: bets $0.38
WTGPxH3R0: calls $0.38
*** RIVER *** [8d Jd 4c 2c] 4 of hearts
kuelas: bets $1.55 and is all-in
WTGPxH3R0: calls $1.55
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kuelas: shows [Qs Qd] (two pair, Queens and Fours)
WTGPxH3R0: shows [Kd Ad] (a pair of Fours)
kuelas collected $4.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.25 | Rake $0.15
Board [8d Jd 4c 2c 4h]
Seat 1: alex savel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: kuelas showed [Qs Qd] and won ($4.10) with two pair, Queens and Fours
Seat 3: WTGPxH3R0 showed [Kd Ad] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 4: puscherStar (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: zacky922 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Willis115 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: xxSINISTER94 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Edited by WTGPxH3R0 (Wednesday, March 30, 2016 @ 13:57 GMT)

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  30-Mar-16, 14:37   #10
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
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Age: 48 (M)
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My thoughts:

Pre-flop: AKs is 100% 3-bet pre-flop for me. Instead of calling the 3BB raise consider 3-betting about $0.18. That gives you the initiative as well as position on the raiser. I'd probably even go all-in if I get reraised, depending on opponent.

Flop: you get the nut flush draw, and face a half pot bet; with about 15 outs, you have the odds to call, so that's fine.

Turn: Nothing changed, but now facing a pot sized bet, you no longer have the odds to call => should have folded.

River: You already figured that one out I believe Blink

     
  30-Mar-16, 14:40   #11
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yout85 
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Yeah... the AK play wasn't great... but I'm sure you realised that immediately yourself. The important thing is to not let one mistake lead to another... From your graph (I can't be sure, but it appears so) it seems one big loss regularly leads into another. Just try and clear your head after losing a hand.

The graph would be more helpful if you included your all in EV.

     
  30-Mar-16, 15:26   #12
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WTGPxH3R0 
Joined: Mar '12
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Age: 23 (M)
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Posted by yout85:
Yeah... the AK play wasn't great... but I'm sure you realised that immediately yourself. The important thing is to not let one mistake lead to another... From your graph (I can't be sure, but it appears so) it seems one big loss regularly leads into another. Just try and clear your head after losing a hand.

The graph would be more helpful if you included your all in EV.


Yeah, well I will find the hands that happened there... it was 3x AA 2xQQ and a 66 with Q6Q on flop with someone pushing all in with KQ and hitting the K on the river so it was a combination on making 1 or 2 mistakes and being unlucky all at same time....

I will include all-in EV to the graph thx for the tip

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PokerStars Hand #151167629778: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2016/03/30 11:32:53 ET
Table 'Walpurga II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: WTGPxH3R0 ($2 in chips)
Seat 2: huysi ($1.61 in chips)
Seat 3: alexfcbno1 ($2.17 in chips)
Seat 4: supermenas ($2.22 in chips)
Seat 5: Avarese ($2.15 in chips)
Seat 6: olegos8888 ($1.11 in chips)
Seat 7: tarasella ($2 in chips)
Seat 9: es mi olla ($2 in chips)
donizetesoad will be allowed to play after the button
es mi olla: posts small blind $0.01
WTGPxH3R0: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WTGPxH3R0 [4d 4c]
huysi: calls $0.02
alexfcbno1: folds
supermenas: folds
Avarese: folds
olegos8888: folds
tarasella: calls $0.02
es mi olla: raises $0.10 to $0.12
WTGPxH3R0: calls $0.10
huysi: folds
tarasella: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 4s 7d]
es mi olla: checks
WTGPxH3R0: bets $0.13
es mi olla: raises $0.39 to $0.52
WTGPxH3R0: raises $1.31 to $1.83
es mi olla: raises $0.05 to $1.88 and is all-in
WTGPxH3R0: calls $0.05 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Th 4s 7d] 8 of clubs
*** RIVER *** [Th 4s 7d 8c] Ace of diamonds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
es mi olla: shows [Tc Td] (three of a kind, Tens)
WTGPxH3R0: shows [4d 4c] (three of a kind, Fours)
es mi olla collected $3.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.04 | Rake $0.14
Board [Th 4s 7d 8c Ad]
Seat 1: WTGPxH3R0 (big blind) showed [4d 4c] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 2: huysi folded before Flop
Seat 3: alexfcbno1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: supermenas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Avarese folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: olegos8888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tarasella (button) folded before Flop
Seat 9: es mi olla (small blind) showed [Tc Td] and won ($3.90) with three of a kind, Tens


PokerStars Hand #151167756683: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2016/03/30 11:35:44 ET
Table 'Iapetus II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Strelo4ekk ($2 in chips)
Seat 2: Leite777 ($0.12 in chips)
Seat 3: @TOM-AK-OD ($2.25 in chips)
Seat 7: Pugach141 ($0.71 in chips)
Seat 8: WTGPxH3R0 ($2 in chips)
Seat 9: wilmago17 ($2 in chips)
wilmago17: posts small blind $0.01
Strelo4ekk: posts big blind $0.02
5ACHIELl: sits out
favikon: sits out
Boss_Bolshoi: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WTGPxH3R0 [Ks Kc]
Leite777: calls $0.02
@TOM-AK-OD: folds
Pugach141: raises $0.04 to $0.06
WTGPxH3R0: raises $0.06 to $0.12
wilmago17: folds
Strelo4ekk: folds
Leite777: calls $0.10 and is all-in
Pugach141: raises $0.10 to $0.22
WTGPxH3R0: raises $1.78 to $2 and is all-in
Pugach141: calls $0.49 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.29) returned to WTGPxH3R0
*** FLOP *** [Js 9s 4d]
*** TURN *** [Js 9s 4d] 7 of clubs
*** RIVER *** [Js 9s 4d 7c] Ace of spades
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Pugach141: shows [Kh Ah] (a pair of Aces)
WTGPxH3R0: mucks hand
Pugach141 collected $1.14 from side pot
Leite777: mucks hand
Pugach141 collected $0.38 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.57 Main pot $0.38. Side pot $1.14. | Rake $0.05
Board [Js 9s 4d 7c As]
Seat 1: Strelo4ekk (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Leite777 mucked [3c Ad]
Seat 3: @TOM-AK-OD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pugach141 showed [Kh Ah] and won ($1.52) with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: WTGPxH3R0 (button) mucked [Ks Kc]
Seat 9: wilmago17 (small blind) folded before Flop



PokerStars Hand #151167863629: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2016/03/30 11:38:08 ET
Table 'Alma III' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: kobaS81 ($1.27 in chips)
Seat 2: rim2008 ($3.11 in chips)
Seat 3: OlgaIzolda ($2.02 in chips)
Seat 4: GypsyBaron ($2.56 in chips)
Seat 5: Kiman11 ($2.09 in chips)
Seat 6: chopdog7192 ($0.80 in chips)
Seat 7: KoXa8319 ($2.17 in chips)
Seat 8: chernoalpha1 ($2 in chips)
Seat 9: WTGPxH3R0 ($2 in chips)
kobaS81: posts small blind $0.01
rim2008: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WTGPxH3R0 [Kh Kd]
OlgaIzolda: folds
GypsyBaron: folds
Kiman11: folds
chopdog7192: folds
KoXa8319: folds
chernoalpha1: folds
WTGPxH3R0: raises $0.03 to $0.05
kobaS81: raises $0.09 to $0.14
rim2008: folds
WTGPxH3R0: raises $0.30 to $0.44
kobaS81: raises $0.83 to $1.27 and is all-in
WTGPxH3R0: calls $0.83
*** FLOP *** [Jh 4c Ac]
*** TURN *** [Jh 4c Ac] 3 of spades
*** RIVER *** [Jh 4c Ac 3s] 9 of hearts
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kobaS81: shows [9s 9c] (three of a kind, Nines)
WTGPxH3R0: shows [Kh Kd] (a pair of Kings)
kobaS81 collected $2.47 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.56 | Rake $0.09
Board [Jh 4c Ac 3s 9h]
Seat 1: kobaS81 (small blind) showed [9s 9c] and won ($2.47) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 2: rim2008 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: OlgaIzolda folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: GypsyBaron folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Kiman11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: chopdog7192 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: KoXa8319 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: chernoalpha1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: WTGPxH3R0 (button) showed [Kh Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings

Edited by WTGPxH3R0 (Wednesday, March 30, 2016 @ 15:38 GMT)


     
  30-Mar-16, 21:24   #13
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
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Better late than never as they say Smile If you are motivated and dedicated you can succeed.
Dont get disappointed too soon if thing start going bad.
You have a good starting bankroll so you wont have problems with ups and downs.
Good luck with your goal.

     
  4-Apr-16, 08:19   #14
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WTGPxH3R0 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 27
Okay guys, Sorry for a few days off, I didn't really play much, some 50/50 and won some sportbets (i bet 5$ lists every week), But I was busy with some local live tournaments and cash games Smile...

Today I will continue my online road Smile will keep u updated

     
  4-Apr-16, 11:32   #15
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Ingrind33 

Joined: Sep '15
Location: Netherlands
Age: 34 (F)
Posts: 475
finally a normal mobber WHO STUDIES POKER and not a stinking limping fish



YES I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! filthy suited connector flush fisher, filthy grandmother's play.

     
  4-Apr-16, 20:57   #16
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4711
Some good advice going down here to assist you in your challenge. I think the one thing you need to remember, rather than tilting upon a loss, however big or small, is to reflect and learn from every aspect of that hand..... Do the same thing with your winning hands too to see how you could play the hand differently to exploit even more winnings. Good luck.

     
  4-Apr-16, 21:26   #17
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jeffaboy 
Joined: Jan '14
Location: Netherlands
Age: 20 (M)
Posts: 856
Good to see that you are willing to learn and i wish you the best of luck in your journey.

also if i may feel free to ask what kind of live games do you play ? which stakes etc? greetz jeff

     
  4-Apr-16, 23:32   #18
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vic75 
Joined: Sep '10
Location: Canada
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1914
Bad luck their with the fish hard to get away from KK and flopping a fullhouse but the luck changes and future play most times those flopped hands will win suited connectors nah don't play them only in freerolls in the big blind with eight limpers GL.

     
  11-Apr-16, 19:39   #19
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WTGPxH3R0 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 27
thanks for the advices...

I am sorry for letting you down and letting this topic down, but it has been a rough week.

My grandpa landed in the hospital again and even died last night Sad
So I took a week off, but planning on a new challenge and continue this one as I managed to get up 18$ with an average of 18.4bb/100

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today started with 15$ bankroll, playing 0,25 cents 45 man regulars... got up to 22,44 Big Smile.... (pretty awesome numbers too xD ..)

Taking a break now ... Smile

Edited by WTGPxH3R0 (Tuesday, April 12, 2016 @ 12:59 GMT)


     
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