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I was playing a coin freeroll on Full Tilt. I was in late position with A A and the table chip leader just after me.
There was one all in sit out and no other limpers in front so i just made a min raise to have the big stack call but he fold and i was alone with the sit out wit K 6 and he it two more six to crack my aces.
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... < That bs really annoys me...! Losing to sitters' out...!
... < You don't get that crap on pokerstars. When they're sitting out,...they're out...!
... < I've noticed on FT that MOST people have NO clue who is and isn't sitting out,...and they are playing against sitter's out as if they're actually in the game.....and 'FOLD' to a sitter out...
< LOLOLololloolololololol.....
... < Also,....It's GREAT when ya find yourself being the ONLY player in a table full of sitters' out,...and you just keep raising as FAST as you can.... and just KILL it...!
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In the same game i was transferred to a table i had bit more than 1k. we were only two the others all sit out the other guy was raisin every hand. After a while i had almost all is chips and i was transferred again. He wanted them all so i was waiting a hand and bang.
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It's pretty cool when you get a whole table of sit outs to play with, and as PINOTTE found, even more beneficial to be at a table with a greedy raiser who can be relatively easy to smash given a little patience and spot picking to crush the greedy player. Sites that allow sit outers to continue in a hand, even when all in should revise their policies.
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Does it really worth saying this in chat demo. You can get banned for this, if someone reports you since you are violating rules. Do this by playing only. If the other player gets it thats fine, if not, normal play
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Posted by demodawggy:
... < When I find myself at a table with only one other player, where the rest are all sitting out,...I offer them a sort of detente by saying...:
" ONLY You and I here,...Let's ALTERNATE Folding, and we can BOTH get LOTS of chips without fighting over them.....AGREE...???"
... < If they agree,...we BOTH stack up,...if they disagree,...well then it's all out war...or at LEAST as Damosk says....!
Demo that is the definition of collusion dude. If you guys get caught you will be banned permanently from whichever site you play on. Pretty stupid thing to do in all reality.
Smarten up buddy! Just kidding of course but really it 100% collusiion
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... < I'm thinking that because they're all sitting out....and not involved in any hands,...that it wouldn't be collusion in any way...! Otherwise I wouldn't do it...! I'd never dream of colluding with someone to cheat a 3rd party out of their chips...!
... < Why are all these folks registered in a game they have 'No' intention of playing...?
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wouldn't matter my friend. The fact you spoke to another player about folding for chips makes it collusion. You didn't think much of it but it certainly is against the rules and bannable by site.
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... < You have a valid point there...! ...but there are a few things to consider...:
- the particular game I'm talking about is a freeroll where there is no buy in or rebuy etc...no money is spent...there's no risk or investment of any sort,...where folks register,...then go off to bed and dreamy dream land where while they're sleeping and dreaming of becoming the next poker phenom,....all the while hoping to maybe score 0.62 of a Coin overnight ... < It's 4:00am in Europe and they're not there...!
- there is nothing secret or shady or behind the scene going on. It is plain table chat that all can see.
- in the beginning it was funny to watch some dunce keep checking to a sitter out hoping to get something to win the hand with,...or they fold....lol when all they have to do is raise....! ....but it's now become rather irritating actually...
- it also makes the game go a little faster...
- Also,.... I in fact do the same thing,...register for the Coin Freeroll that plays at like 6:00am Eastern,...and when it starts,.....I'm off in dreamy dream land MYself...! lol... and every now and then,...very infrequently in fact,...you wake up to a coin or 2...! ..and I couldn't care less if a couple of folks were just doing just that,....'folding' to sitter's out while I'm not there....
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Oh dear. The rules are there to protect people, regardless of their investment, and as you say, you may be colluding them out of 0.62 pf a gold coin, which clearly has some (even minor) value. While it may seem innocuous, and you don't mind if others do it, it is still a breach of the rules. We are here to help and that is all we try to do. Consider this... Getting banned over conning someone out of 0.62 worth of a gold chip.....?
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Or if you are at a table where everyone is sat in, and you watching a table with only two sat in and you saw them openingly collude to get all the chips on the table. That would likely annoy you, it certainly would be.
Of course divvy up the chips, just don't talk about it
On the folding to a sitter out, in early evening games I am guilty of this. It is because I can be in 6-10 games over several different sites, whilst getting the little one ready for bed, and I just don't have time to play properly. The alternative is to just not play it at all, which is less ev than playing badly
