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  25-Apr-16, 23:12   #1
Look at this hand 0 
pinotte 
Joined: Jun '13
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I was playin a coin freeroll on Full Tilt and i was card dead and absolutely needed chips to be able to get points.

Then i was UTG with 9 9 and had no choice but to shoved to my surprise i had only one call and we open he show 10 2o. Se what happen on the enclose pic. Smile Smile

     
  25-Apr-16, 23:29   #2
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Buva13 

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LOL well thats what i hate the most about some players - they dont even got "enough" decent hand to play with and they or go all in to fake or just to hit wonders like they been send from Jokerstars on a mission Big Smile - and the worst of it is raising the pot size holding pocKet aces and of cores dumb f**k calls it with 45 ofsuit and hits straight or another two fives. Just amazing how stupid play out of the blue can be a wining hand. But again thats not me and if someone wants to play this way then he should have a blast and swing as much as he can.

     
  26-Apr-16, 08:43   #3
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TheMachineQC 

Joined: Apr '10
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Lol well not much you can do there obviously. When your opponent's 3 outer hits on the flop, it becomes a reverse domination situation so from there you'll lose the end like 85% of the time. But that doesn't matter because when you put the money in your were favorite.

RNGs like donks. It seems they are in love with russians and russian donkeys! Blink

Gotta keep grinding though, sometimes your 99 will hold vs 102!!

     
  26-Apr-16, 14:07   #4
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
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Again and again story like this. In card dead situation, even AA often lost to crap card. Try play at cash game, they play better there. Too much frustrating play at MTT freeroll or micro buy in.

     
  26-Apr-16, 15:19   #5
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damosk 
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So, having reviewed the hand, PINOTTE must have had something like 300 chips and the BB had nearly 2000, so, given we don't know what the blinds were, it's seems a very straightforward shove on the BB part as he had already investe in the hand and had PINOTTE more than well covered so as not to hurt his stack much if he lost. Therefore his call of pinottes all in is a reasonable call with any two cards. He has the odds, even though he is 3-1 to lose pre flop, and he's not going to lose that much by calling. This is a typical example of playing with a short stack... Beware the bigger stack who will call with ATC.

     
  26-Apr-16, 15:35   #6
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marqis 

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Posted by damosk:
So, having reviewed the hand, PINOTTE must have had something like 300 chips and the BB had nearly 2000, so, given we don't know what the blinds were, it's seems a very straightforward shove on the BB part as he had already investe in the hand and had PINOTTE more than well covered so as not to hurt his stack much if he lost. Therefore his call of pinottes all in is a reasonable call with any two cards. He has the odds, even though he is 3-1 to lose pre flop, and he's not going to lose that much by calling. This is a typical example of playing with a short stack... Beware the bigger stack who will call with ATC.

My thoughts exactly. Including the caveat about not knowing how high the blinds are...
+1

     
  26-Apr-16, 16:05   #7
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pinotte 
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I don't remember how much the blinds were but this is not to important because i was sure that at least one would call my low stack.

But i was expected a coin flip but losing to a three outers is a little bit frustrating even if there was no money involved just for coins. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  26-Apr-16, 17:06   #8
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IceQueenAce 
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Location: United Kingdom
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The blinds are incredibly important, it could infact make the call the only option for the bb.

You appear (without knowing stacks) to be very short. If you have let yourself get that low (rather than just lost a big pot), then it is your mistake and not his.

Maybe you could check up on the blinds and we can offer more useful advice

     
  26-Apr-16, 17:46   #9
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pinotte 
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I don't know where you saw that i said he made a mistake if you read my post just before yours you will see that i said i was sure that i would be called. Blink Blink

     
  26-Apr-16, 17:53   #10
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
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I have made such calls in the past. A few more chips to call the low stack whos desperate
and can go all in with anything.
In this case pinotte you had a better hand, but you ended up being unlucky again.
Low stack's story Smile

     
  26-Apr-16, 18:58   #11
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shokaku 

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Location: Germany
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What is so special about that hand? You had to shove with your hand and your stack size, he had to call you with ATC. And middelish pairs are vulnerable to over cards. So this thing is as standard as they come.

     
  27-Apr-16, 09:04   #12
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pochui 

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Location: Lithuania
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i looked at this hand and i can confirm that by looking at this hand i came to a conclusion that looking at this hand was not worth it, since i could have spent the time i was looking at this hand looking at the candy store deliveries. but still i looked at this hand and this is a true story.

     
  27-Apr-16, 16:13   #13
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
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I think that the lesson to learn from this thread, (apart from the usually useful advice proffered by our best friend Pochui) is that shove ranges at low stack is really important. If you have heard of the M principle, then you should use it (or something similar) don't keep hanging on in there for the perfect (or almost perfect) hand to turn up and save you while your stack dwindles away.

     
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