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  31-Jul-16, 03:16   #1
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vic75 
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Was playing the Micromillions Dollar 5 progressive knockout on Stars tonight got 55 against one player big stack flop 953 bet half the pot next card possible flush river possible open ended straight. I check the river
big stack quick shoves I fold. I ended with small Dollar 6 profit shoved 7 BB with A6 suited lost vs J10. Consolation prize completion of the the Micro Millions Allin shootout puzzle. If you are big stack on stars the Rng is in your favour just what I have noticed playing micro stakes GL. Dollar Thumbs Up

     
  31-Jul-16, 07:05   #2
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marqis 

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Could you post the boom for this?
It sounds like bubble play, where the big stack is bullying with every two cards... In any case you've folded a very good hand based on the "big stack favored" superstition... How do you get to be the big stack if you do that?

Don't value your own, or anyone else's for that matter, anecdotal evidence above rationale.

     
  31-Jul-16, 09:40   #3
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doubletop777 
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I dont think there was anything wrong with your fold in this situation. Sometimes you can just feel that your hand is not good and you just have to go by feel sometimes. Congratulations on your win and good luck to you in future tournaments

     
  31-Jul-16, 12:33   #4
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DaCapo71 
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A fold was easy possible in this situation. And when you fold against a tight Player can you be sure that he had a better hand than your set. Gratz for your winning and gl for the micro Million final this evening Blink

     
  31-Jul-16, 14:44   #5
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pinotte 
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If you have only seven BB left after you bet half pot on the flop and then check you are just saying to the big stack i am afraid of the board so if you shoved i will fold.

And this is exactly what he did. With the little stack you had IMO you should have take the risk then instead of shoving with A small.

RNG don't know if you are big or small stack how can a random generator would choose to give cards to one player in particular.

But yes it is true that big stack are getting their cards more often have you ever though that if the guy have a big stack he is on a very good run and he is having the luck which would explain why he is hitting more often than others. Question Question Question

     
  31-Jul-16, 15:02   #6
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Gun2her 
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Well congrats on both the win and the fold. On micro stakes there aren´t many that can fold a set no matter how bad the board is for them. (I´m one to talk)

     
  31-Jul-16, 16:37   #7
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vic75 
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It was close to the bubble I would shove on the turn if Itm. I still had a healthy stack after fold then went card dead after the bubble and no luck vs bingo J10.

     
  31-Jul-16, 16:52   #8
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pinotte 
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Now that i have the full picture then i understand your fold. But still disagree about RNG and big stack. Smile

     
  31-Jul-16, 17:02   #9
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Mober 
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Congratulations on your win. I would have gone all in with that set in the flop unless
it was all same color.
Marqis is right. Big stacks always bullying betting huge with nothing to kick you out.
How many times have i won an all in, when i am small stack, because the big one has kicked
the other player out with silly huge raises, holding the worst cards ever.

If close to the bubble and the payout was good, it seems logical to fold Smile

     
  31-Jul-16, 21:59   #10
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bowie1984 

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Posted by vic75:
It was close to the bubble I would shove on the turn if Itm. I still had a healthy stack after fold then went card dead after the bubble and no luck vs bingo J10.

Come on! How many times we have to say it?
You don't play these kinda tournies (MM - or any other low buy-in, high profile MTT with great rewards in the Top10) to get into ITM (ITM could be achieved by a good amount of times literally anywhere playing just ABC poker), your goal should be to take them down.
Winning one could reimburse you for the other two hundred times when you did not get into the money.
You should have just played your game regardless of the bubble, overthinking these situations could really hurt your in-game mechanics 4 good.
But, you know this is just my opinion, take it with a grain of salt...

     
  1-Aug-16, 00:52   #11
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vic75 
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I had a good read on the big stack bully with his insta snap shove. The goal was getting Itm with a good stack done but going card dead after with no playable hands did not help.

     
  1-Aug-16, 07:16   #12
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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You will never know what the player with the big stack had in his/her hand. I believe you made a cry fold considering the bubble was near. Since there were both straight and flush possibilities after the river card was dealt, I would probably find a fold there as well.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Monday, August 01, 2016 @ 07:25 GMT)


     
  1-Aug-16, 21:31   #13
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damosk 
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It's always difficult on the bubble to play your own game...... But something that you must really get over. Don't be bullied on the bubble at the risk of being eliminated. If it's a normal structure tourney, is not where top 20 all get a ticket, then you just play to win.... Not to simply get in the money. Be prepared to lose to be able to win a substantial amount.

     
  2-Aug-16, 03:05   #14
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vic75 
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A cry fold first of all there is no crying in poker what the hell would that achieve and i read the player perfectly had a decent stack after the bubble and got knocked out by a weaker hand simple as that. If you want too cry go listen too cry me a river by JT. Tongue

     
  2-Aug-16, 19:45   #15
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Mober 
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Do your game and play how ever it feels good for you.
There are freerolls that they have a decent payout even for the last positions,
so why not folding, waiting for th bubble to go out, especially when you have a decent stack that
can take you even further away.
.

     
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